if i'm not mistaken, mega also after switching, but mega tyranitar transform before pursuit and before switchingthis is likely intended. pursuit goes before switching, and switching goes before tera
if i'm not mistaken, mega also after switching, but mega tyranitar transform before pursuit and before switchingthis is likely intended. pursuit goes before switching, and switching goes before tera
Yh cuz ppl don't really know how Tera works with Pursuit. We know how Tera works with megasif i'm not mistaken, mega also after switching, but mega tyranitar transform before pursuit and before switching
Close Combat, as Mega Gallade does not have Sharpness to amplify Sacred Sword's power.What:a better for Mega Gallade? Close Combat or Sacred Sword?
The big problem is the defense dropClose Combat, as Mega Gallade does not have Sharpness to amplify Sacred Sword's power.
Trust me, it is worth the increase in Base Power, as a wallbreaker.The big problem is the defense drop
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How tf did y’all decide to vote on keeping Tera when this mfer and more are running around the tier?
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Nah, this is not it.Sigh... How many mons will have to get yeeted down the road now? This thing in particular makes me not want to bother with the tier rn.
I’m not calling people out for having negative opinions. Everyone is entitled to think what they want of the metagame; why do you think I burn hours of my time running surveys in my tiers? Empowering opinions is how our communities survive.This mind set has always been one of my least favorite things regardless of applying it to just Pokemon. Just because someone doesn't play enough or play at a high enough level for reqs doesn't suddenly absolve them of the right to an opinion and it's insufferably narrow minded to insinuate that you aren't allowed to have issues with a metagame or the direction it goes unless you personally involve yourself in every decision. Calling people out and being passive aggressive/high and mighty about it also doesn't really seem like the way I'd personally go about urging people to vote about this stuff if they don't like it but that's just me.
Tera is completely incompatible with Mega Pokemon. You're just unable to Terastallize a Mega, basically (I think this is a coding limitation because the "Mega Evolve" button and the "Terastallize" button are in the same area and it'd be ineffective to add another, not sure though).Ahhh, good to know that it's still worth to play the tier! Having another gen 4 would have been so boring (to me).
Question: how do mega that gain a type work with Tera active?
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Tornadus-Therian | 32 | 42.11% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Magearna | 29 | 38.16% | 48.28% |
| 3 | Great Tusk | 23 | 30.26% | 52.17% |
| 4 | Gholdengo | 18 | 23.68% | 55.56% |
| 5 | Dragapult | 16 | 21.05% | 56.25% |
| 6 | Landorus-Therian | 14 | 18.42% | 64.29% |
| 7 | Chien-Pao | 13 | 17.11% | 69.23% |
| 8 | Lopunny | 11 | 14.47% | 63.64% |
| 8 | Clodsire | 11 | 14.47% | 36.36% |
| 8 | Tapu Koko | 11 | 14.47% | 9.09% |
| 11 | Rotom-Wash | 10 | 13.16% | 60.00% |
| 12 | Ferrothorn | 9 | 11.84% | 77.78% |
| 12 | Urshifu-* | 9 | 11.84% | 66.67% |
| 12 | Pelipper | 9 | 11.84% | 66.67% |
| 12 | Ting-Lu | 9 | 11.84% | 66.67% |
| 12 | Scizor | 9 | 11.84% | 55.56% |
| 12 | Regieleki | 9 | 11.84% | 55.56% |
| 18 | Gastrodon | 8 | 10.53% | 25.00% |
| 19 | Volcarona | 7 | 9.21% | 71.43% |
| 19 | Iron Valiant | 7 | 9.21% | 42.86% |
| 21 | Barraskewda | 6 | 7.89% | 66.67% |
| 21 | Melmetal | 6 | 7.89% | 50.00% |
| 21 | Swampert | 6 | 7.89% | 50.00% |
| 21 | Chansey | 6 | 7.89% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Charizard | 6 | 7.89% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Ditto | 6 | 7.89% | 33.33% |
| 27 | Garganacl | 5 | 6.58% | 80.00% |
| 27 | Tapu Fini | 5 | 6.58% | 80.00% |
| 27 | Kingambit | 5 | 6.58% | 80.00% |
| 27 | Skarmory | 5 | 6.58% | 60.00% |
| 27 | Garchomp | 5 | 6.58% | 60.00% |
| 27 | Gliscor | 5 | 6.58% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Toxapex | 5 | 6.58% | 0.00% |
| 34 | Buzzwole | 4 | 5.26% | 75.00% |
| 34 | Dragonite | 4 | 5.26% | 75.00% |
| 34 | Skeledirge | 4 | 5.26% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Grimmsnarl | 4 | 5.26% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Shuckle | 4 | 5.26% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Baxcalibur | 4 | 5.26% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Heatran | 4 | 5.26% | 25.00% |
| 41 | Iron Hands | 3 | 3.95% | 100.00% |
| 41 | Mandibuzz | 3 | 3.95% | 100.00% |
| 41 | Sableye | 3 | 3.95% | 100.00% |
| 41 | Zamazenta-* | 3 | 3.95% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Tapu Lele | 3 | 3.95% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Cresselia | 3 | 3.95% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Marowak-Alola | 3 | 3.95% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Iron Treads | 3 | 3.95% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Tyranitar | 3 | 3.95% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Diancie | 3 | 3.95% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Weavile | 3 | 3.95% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Clefable | 3 | 3.95% | 0.00% |
| 41 | Annihilape | 3 | 3.95% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Hatterene | 2 | 2.63% | 100.00% |
| 54 | Zapdos | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Rillaboom | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Corviknight | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Excadrill | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Venusaur | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Aegislash | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Ceruledge | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Victini | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Blissey | 2 | 2.63% | 50.00% |
| 54 | Iron Moth | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Avalugg | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Slither Wing | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Glimmora | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Hawlucha | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Cinderace | 2 | 2.63% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Ninetales-Alola | 1 | 1.32% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Alomomola | 1 | 1.32% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Hydreigon | 1 | 1.32% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Mawile | 1 | 1.32% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Kartana | 1 | 1.32% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Ribombee | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Gyarados | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Serperior | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Iron Thorns | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Manectric | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Dondozo | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Latias | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Krookodile | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Polteageist | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Cyclizar | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Slowbro | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Stakataka | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Camerupt | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Torkoal | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Iron Jugulis | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Medicham | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
| 70 | Espathra | 1 | 1.32% | 0.00% |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Tornadus-Therian | 16 | 44.44% | 56.25% |
| 2 | Great Tusk | 13 | 36.11% | 53.85% |
| 3 | Magearna | 11 | 30.56% | 27.27% |
| 4 | Gholdengo | 9 | 25.00% | 88.89% |
| 5 | Pelipper | 8 | 22.22% | 62.50% |
| 6 | Ferrothorn | 7 | 19.44% | 71.43% |
| 6 | Swampert | 7 | 19.44% | 57.14% |
| 6 | Regieleki | 7 | 19.44% | 42.86% |
| 6 | Lopunny | 7 | 19.44% | 28.57% |
| 6 | Tapu Koko | 7 | 19.44% | 14.29% |
| 11 | Barraskewda | 6 | 16.67% | 66.67% |
| 11 | Landorus-Therian | 6 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 11 | Clodsire | 6 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 14 | Ting-Lu | 5 | 13.89% | 80.00% |
| 14 | Iron Valiant | 5 | 13.89% | 60.00% |
| 14 | Rotom-Wash | 5 | 13.89% | 20.00% |
| 17 | Volcarona | 4 | 11.11% | 75.00% |
| 17 | Charizard | 4 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Urshifu-* | 4 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Ditto | 4 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 21 | Chansey | 3 | 8.33% | 66.67% |
| 21 | Garchomp | 3 | 8.33% | 66.67% |
| 21 | Dragapult | 3 | 8.33% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Skarmory | 3 | 8.33% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Chien-Pao | 3 | 8.33% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Gastrodon | 3 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Garganacl | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Mandibuzz | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Sableye | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Manaphy | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Tapu Fini | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Dragonite | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Buzzwole | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Shuckle | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Baxcalibur | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Kingambit | 2 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Grimmsnarl | 2 | 5.56% | 50.00% |
| 27 | Scizor | 2 | 5.56% | 50.00% |
| 27 | Skeledirge | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Magnezone | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Heatran | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Toxapex | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Gliscor | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Weavile | 2 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Zamazenta-* | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Kartana | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Victini | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Rillaboom | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Iron Treads | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Diancie | 1 | 2.78% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Torkoal | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Venusaur | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Ceruledge | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Hawlucha | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Iron Jugulis | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Melmetal | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Cinderace | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Aegislash | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Medicham | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Iron Moth | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Slither Wing | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Espathra | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Zapdos | 1 | 2.78% | 0.00% |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Magearna | 10 | 41.67% | 60.00% |
| 2 | Dragapult | 8 | 33.33% | 62.50% |
| 3 | Tornadus-Therian | 7 | 29.17% | 71.43% |
| 3 | Great Tusk | 7 | 29.17% | 14.29% |
| 5 | Landorus-Therian | 6 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 5 | Chien-Pao | 6 | 25.00% | 66.67% |
| 5 | Gholdengo | 6 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Lopunny | 5 | 20.83% | 80.00% |
| 8 | Tapu Koko | 5 | 20.83% | 40.00% |
| 10 | Melmetal | 4 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 10 | Ting-Lu | 4 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 10 | Iron Valiant | 4 | 16.67% | 25.00% |
| 13 | Rotom-Wash | 3 | 12.50% | 100.00% |
| 13 | Slowbro | 3 | 12.50% | 66.67% |
| 13 | Kingambit | 3 | 12.50% | 66.67% |
| 13 | Volcarona | 3 | 12.50% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Iron Hands | 2 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 17 | Heatran | 2 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 17 | Cyclizar | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Iron Moth | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Zamazenta-* | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Cresselia | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Marowak-Alola | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Cinderace | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Chansey | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Glimmora | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Annihilape | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Dragonite | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Shuckle | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Baxcalibur | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Ditto | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Medicham | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Barraskewda | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Pelipper | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Ferrothorn | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Urshifu-* | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Hatterene | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Scizor | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Weavile | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Zapdos | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Buzzwole | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Clodsire | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Corviknight | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Tapu Fini | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Hydreigon | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Mawile | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Regieleki | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 32 | Tyranitar | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Iron Treads | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Garchomp | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Diancie | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Polteageist | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Grimmsnarl | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Tapu Lele | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Hawlucha | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Stakataka | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Camerupt | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Charizard | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Toxapex | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Gliscor | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Clefable | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Tornadus-Therian | 14 | 46.67% | 35.71% |
| 2 | Magearna | 13 | 43.33% | 53.85% |
| 3 | Dragapult | 7 | 23.33% | 57.14% |
| 3 | Great Tusk | 7 | 23.33% | 57.14% |
| 3 | Scizor | 7 | 23.33% | 42.86% |
| 6 | Rotom-Wash | 6 | 20.00% | 50.00% |
| 6 | Landorus-Therian | 6 | 20.00% | 50.00% |
| 8 | Gastrodon | 5 | 16.67% | 40.00% |
| 8 | Clodsire | 5 | 16.67% | 40.00% |
| 10 | Chien-Pao | 4 | 13.33% | 100.00% |
| 10 | Urshifu-* | 4 | 13.33% | 75.00% |
| 10 | Skeledirge | 4 | 13.33% | 50.00% |
| 10 | Gholdengo | 4 | 13.33% | 50.00% |
| 10 | Tyranitar | 4 | 13.33% | 25.00% |
| 15 | Ferrothorn | 3 | 10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15 | Lopunny | 3 | 10.00% | 66.67% |
| 15 | Garganacl | 3 | 10.00% | 66.67% |
| 15 | Regieleki | 3 | 10.00% | 66.67% |
| 15 | Tapu Fini | 3 | 10.00% | 66.67% |
| 15 | Tapu Koko | 3 | 10.00% | 0.00% |
| 15 | Gliscor | 3 | 10.00% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Melmetal | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Pelipper | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Skarmory | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Volcarona | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Zapdos | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Excadrill | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Ting-Lu | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Slither Wing | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Charizard | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Blissey | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Iron Treads | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Zamazenta-* | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Clefable | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Chansey | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Toxapex | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Avalugg | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Barraskewda | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Hatterene | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Iron Hands | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Cresselia | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Marowak-Alola | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Garchomp | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Venusaur | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Aegislash | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Ninetales-Alola | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Ceruledge | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Dragonite | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Grimmsnarl | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Alomomola | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Swampert | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Kingambit | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Mandibuzz | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Sableye | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Weavile | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Ribombee | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Gyarados | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Serperior | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Buzzwole | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Diancie | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Iron Moth | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Iron Thorns | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Manectric | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Rillaboom | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Corviknight | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Annihilape | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Dondozo | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Heatran | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Victini | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Latias | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Krookodile | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 39 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
I feel mirroring OU and implementing their own limitations without a proper suspect is just absurd and unfair to those who voted. The suspect was held with only full ban as possible.I didn't expect tera to remain unbanned since there are so many broken mon because of tera, its also very close result on voting almost 60%, I personally disappointed as a BAN voter, its hard to get reqs
If OU gets tiering action, I hope natdex is following OU path whether is 1 tera user, view tera type or anything rather than completely unban like nothing
Maybe there is a retest in the future, but I'm too lazy to get reqs again
Actually we don't have the Hisui Pokemon until Home drops in a few months, but I'm not too sure if that would warrant a retest.Also I don't really see much argument for a retest later down the line, because unlike OU we already have all Pokémon and moves.