NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

[RyoDio]

yeah, i select two targets, target A actions go on target B

So Vizh was supposed to get wiped that day instead of me?

 

[Celever]

Has Spiderz claimed yet?
If not, could it be possible he has a Suggest 6, which could fit with that tinfoil theory?

This certainly is a possibility!

 

[RyoDio]

Town
CaffeineBoost - doc
Drookez - ability motivator + empowerer (I don’t think this is overpowered)
Psy - wiped n1 + tone
Ryo - wiped n3
Shadowpea - lovers role

The whole Nuxl/Celever interaction is weird af, there are so many things that make it hard to figure out

• I don’t understand why Nuxl would jail Dyo and then Clouds
• I don’t understand how Celever lived the night
• Celever’s claim is impossible to verify

The solution that requires the least thinking is that Nuxl lied about targeting Clouds and targeted Celever, but if mafia killed Clouds and Celever is town then they literally just saved Celever for zero reason. There’s also the fact that even though Celever has looked better on day 5, the day has been mostly mechanical solving and I still maintain that his d3-d4 was not a good look, although I would much prefer voting based on mechanics than my gut at this point based on how the game has been going. I think just because of PoE this is prob TvS.

3-4 mafia in:
Da Letter El
Spiderz
Texas Cloverleaf
UncleSam/Yeti
Vizh

I’d probably townread whydon because of tone + I’m confident that his attempts at voting within his block of four stems mostly being annoyed at town fucking around instead of a manipulative attempt to control the vote as mafia + day 4 EoD behavior.

Based on PoE the scum is in here, dle is prob just mafia but it’s bugging me that he is willing to vote celever (who I tunneled on) and spiderz (likely mafia according to PoE).

For Vizh: I kinda did not read his posts for the first 200 pages due to volume, I don’t really care for this slot and I could see him being mafia but have no case against him (because I skimmed over everything). If someone could also tell me what Suggest (#) means? not knowing the power level makes it hard to figure out if vizh has full claimed or is hiding things

More thoughts in the post below

Texas is town

 

[Celever]

Oh so realiti is a straight up redirector

Is there a universe town has two of them this feels v scummy

 

[realiti]

So Vizh was supposed to get wiped that day instead of me?

no, i redirected his actions onto u

 

[RyoDio]

I'm veteran

vote Celever

Out of curiosity what flavor

 

[shadowpea]

• shadowpea can you explain why you were unable to use this N2

Tribes. Laurel was the only one voted that was in my tribe.

 

[shadowpea]

Is veteran = pgo/granny?

 

[RyoDio]

Are we really sure about all suggests being town, I feel like we could’ve just gotten lucky with the ones that have been killed being town. Otherwise that’s a mechanic that could just straight up confirm 5 town. In Which I don’t know if that is likely or unlikely

 

[Celever]

Tribes. Laurel was the only one voted that was in my tribe.

You and Laurel were in different tribes

Why did the tribe effect block your power?

 

[Vizh]

You and Laurel were in different tribes

Why did the tribe effect block your power?

Why can Shadowpea like it but not explain it?

 

[shadowpea]

Sorry I read it and... Kinda left lmao

I mean spiders. My brain was thinking Laurel bc he was the tribe man

Spiders was the only one on my tribe so I can't do anything

 

[Celever]

Sorry I read it and... Kinda left lmao

I mean spiders. My brain was thinking Laurel bc he was the tribe man

Spiders was the only one on my tribe so I can't do anything

It looks like Sam was also on your tribe. Why couldn't you target, for instance, Sam and Spiderz and make them lovers?

 

[shadowpea]

link to last votecount

Day 2 Final Votecount
Sificon (10): UncleSam, shadowpea, M2H (2), RyoDio, Haruno, Da Letter El, Nuxl, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf
Celever (1): realiti
Clouds (1): Laurel
Dyo (1): Whydon
Laurel (1): Spiderz
Spiderz (1): Ayia

Not Voting (8): CaffeineBoost, dave, Drookez, Dyo, Sificon, Vizh, Psypsypsypsypsythe, Celever

I can only target ppl that was voted on. Hence I couldn't target anyone yesterday either bf dyo only one voted

 

[Celever]

I can only target ppl that was voted on. Hence I couldn't target anyone yesterday either bf dyo only one voted

OK I don't think this was claimed before, this makes more sense. Thanks.

 

[shadowpea]

matieu, 12th place here

pick 2 people voted during dayphase
they are paired next day and night, share private chat, and if one dies he kills the other
they are fully aware (yeah celever was)

Did claim but ok

 

[Celever]

Did claim but ok

Tbf this is why I made the recap, in the likely event I was forgetting certain details like that

 

[Celever]

Tbf this is why I made the recap, in the likely event I was forgetting certain details like that

This does make your role a little scummier because in practice you can only really target ml bait

 

[RyoDio]

no, i redirected his actions onto u

Vizh what actions did you use that day

 

[shadowpea]

This does make your role a little scummier because in practice you can only really target ml bait

Uh I don't see this. How does targeting already scummy people make this role scum?

I can kinda accelerate the process of elimination. Plus once I'm outted and even when I'm not town gets complete control over my targets

 

[Vizh]

Vizh what actions did you use that day

Which day?

 

[CaffeineBoost]

In a neighbourhood with DLE and previously Clouds

Ah, ah, see, hmm, thing is, no.

You were in a neighbourhood with Clouds. Clouds was in a neighbourhood with DLE. DLE was in a neighbourhood with me. I was not in a neighbourhood with Clouds.

 

[CaffeineBoost]

His readiness to think there was also a scum doc gives me the ick

I was (and still am) convinced you're scum, so I was jumping to conclusions on how you were kept alive. My guess was that the kill on Clouds was coordinated in such a way that you didn't die. A scum doctor would do this.
Another possibility is that Nuxl does this.

 

[CaffeineBoost]

Likelihood of being a Strongman (under the assumption they are mafia):

Caff - An ok chance. Roles that give and take away life are somewhat common, and so combining a doc with a strongman isn't out of this world. But it's certainly not likely

If I'm scum, then who's to say there's a strongman in the first place? The reason I think there's a strongman is because I healed Haruno. If you think I'm scum, why would I heal Haruno? Better yet, why would I heal Haruno and strongman them at the same time?

 

[Celever]

Ah, ah, see, hmm, thing is, no.

You were in a neighbourhood with Clouds. Clouds was in a neighbourhood with DLE. DLE was in a neighbourhood with me. I was not in a neighbourhood with Clouds.

oh this really is Survivor

My interpretation was that DLE added people to the neighbourhood, not that he made new ones

Why did DLE stop making neighbourhoods, anyway?