Tournament World Cup of 1v1 VI - Discussion Thread

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So this thread seems to be dead rn, lets try getting back some activity with something some of us have already listed out in discord, throw out your world Squad for the wc out here (Written as of before tb:

I've chosen the names here based on primarily current form, but also past tour history, and honestly personal bias. I'm prolly not as familiar with the newer people of the last 2 or so years,


Honourable mentions:
Kentari- feels really dirty leaving someone so good in SM out, don't let his current record fool you in his prime this man walks into SM( or even SS/oras if he extreme tryhards tbh) easily removing one of the other two starters. Thing is he's got different priorities and I'm hoping the best for him

Landon21- leaving imo the best SM player of all time and 1v1 of the better 1v1 players across generations to come out feels wrong, but i think other people have stepped up and put more time while he simply hasn't as of now

TSC: The best person to have the best record ever in team tours not being here just looks wrong, but I think he's had an off tour so far. Any other time I wouldn't hesitate slotting him right in.

187fan/Inkreativ: I honestly feel leaving both of this duo out already hurts the legitimacy of my list, and you could make a strong case for swapping them with me or some others on the list.

adb1710- Someone who'd been on a decent record so far, helping Asia clutch out the poffs no less, I feel a historically better tour run and a 3-0 over a 2-1 would have helped his chances in an already strong SS pool


Captain: DEG, absolute no brainer I will fight you for this. Not just picking him so when me and frosty coup him for manager slots next year it'll hurt less, but from this guys building, to interacting with team, to getting outside teambuilding help if needed, to his ability to veto snubull and iron tail landorus teams, you really need to be in a Deg team to see how much Deg really brings to the table if he so chooses to.

Co: Frostyicelad, can really fit anyone competent in this slot because i think Deg is compatible with a large portion of the community, if I'm honest just giving DEG his apparent punching bag for the last 4 or so years because of Asian synergy between the two. Plus, frosty also provides support when called upon and positive mentality never hurt any team.

SSBO7: Close: Absolute no brainer , you'd have to be quite a person to not pick someone who goes 3-0 in a pool of death the way close has. While a sort of hit-or-miss looking at tour records, when Close has performed, they've put a very strong showing in past team tours, and this one looks to be a strong tour with the looks of things

SSBO5: D2THEW: I think another fairly strong contender not just because of the 3-0 record here, but not going to g5 a single time in each of the series. Also been historically positive in team tours which helps.

SSBO5: Doc: Ok now wait listen don't stop reading- the thing with doc is while he has had a bad tour previously, and with good support he can be a good clicker with proper support and his current form
SMBO5: Squirtell: Going 3-0 with a strong performance, and going at a 50-50 win loss record in past tournament doesn't hinder him too much not much else to say, a solid pick
SMBO5: Elo Bandit: I know he's historically had a very bad track record in team tours, but he's brought creative sets and done well so far in this tour with a 3-0, and can flourish provided he continues his current form.
ORASBO5: Xstatic Cold: I personally think Xstatic's best meta is ORAS, and has the best win/loss record in the tour who's played more than 5 games. Yes he can be countered, but that's where support from a World XII comes in and with historically one of the best team tour players it'd be a crime to leave him out.
BWBO5: StablePrince: having a feeling like xsc, that stable was misallotted, and being the player with the best BW record would help him bounce back from his current tours run
MGBO5: Crucify: I know crying went 3-0 i pools and has a past pl record of 4-2, which in itself is good for starters, but I just feel crucify has far better meta knowledge and can provide good support for other slots too, and will be relying on him to help build with Deg

Subs: I wanted versatility and teambuilding support for subs,
pqs- Just destined to be one of those people who goes 3-0 or 0-3 with no inbetween, pqs i think has been around enough if the team desperately needs it, and on his day when he's rolling is very underrated. This just happens to be his 3-0 tour, and providing good support you can slot him around other tiers or swap around with bandit or squirtell too.
Baleblaze: Seemed a bit arrogant put myself on a global 12 having just come back and only played 3 games, but I think the difficulty level of the opponents just about carries me through to the bench. Plus, being versatile enough to play oras/sm or ss if absolutely need to doesn't hurt the case either and i can provide some support for either
cryinggg- with good support I think cryinggg can go slot into any tier or free up crucify to swap around if needed, with the form they're in right now and support
Stravench- Hot take, and you could probably add another strong builder in this place but I've seen this guy support and support this person does in spades. Also helps keep deg's sanity intact pumping 100 teams a week.
 
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EAST!

bo7: sice (1-2)
bo5: james (0-2) / tenzhii (0-1)
bo5: linux user
sm: poomia (0-2) / dr phd bj (1-0 GOATTTT)
sm: bea (2-1)
oras: mubs (2-1)
bw: fakee (1-2)
mickeygen: a hero's destiny (1-2)

so east in world cup of 1v1 SIX............ did anyone have any expectations? like seriously? not only was their starting lineup absolute chodes, but to top it all off they had the worst formatting on any lineup post ive ever seen and probably ever will see.

like once we saw girl chungus my hopes were beyond low but at the end of the day east ~sometimes~ overperforms like brodie their lus are never this dire but usually they do better than they should because they have idk the power of friendship or something.

anyways so the tour starts and these guys play kinda fast and then like a week passes by and EVERYONE BESIDES SICE LOST THEIR GAMES! shit was sad yo. relevant meme: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/world-cup-of-1v1-vi-round-1.3703189/page-2#post-9253770

these guys kept losing and losing until they SUBBED IN DR PHD BLOWJOB WHILE THEIR SEASON WASN'T TECHNICALLY OVER! i'd say that this world cup had a lot of ups and downs for east but let's be honest it was all downs this team was complete dogshit all around the bored and an embrassment for the region. it would have taken a 1 in 1 million miracle to get this team to even tb and it didn't happen, as it seems the miracle was lasy year.

GOOD THING (singular) THAT HAPPENED: bea went positive and i think this is good for her getting drafted in pl in the future, let's be honest deg is a snake chungus for not getting her and realistically she earned at least a pl sub spot this world cup. SHE BEAT DR. NADAL!!!!!! also linux user epically made his debut i guess but i mean who cares at the moment this aint 2v2 singles buckaroo you still got a lot to prove after sabotaging dragapults.
WHO'S TO BLAME: I BLAME MISHLEF AND MURMDOG!!! THEY BAILED ON THEIR REGION!! and this year they simply didn't get enough viable players tbh adding latam to this region made no sense like realistically a bunch of jajaers wont save a region with no builders (besides the self proclaimed east carry sicexv who has not seen playoffs with them). this region was hella dire and tbh could have been salvaged by giving them more states like lets be honest if next year central and south are this fucking broken and east is half as penis as this year world cup will be a joke. rosa is partly to blame with signups being bad and regions not really being adjusted in ways that made legitimate sense. also i still dont get how poomia goes negative in 2022 shes literally on ps and discord all day every day rumia perhaps try honing your craft?
LEGACY WATCH: sice probably needs to leave this penis ass team for cone LOL last year they somehow fluked their way into one of the greatest 1v1 team comebacks ever (wc5 last day of pools) and that simply doesn't seem to be on the horizon with how things are going now. earlier in pools people were saying he needs to be on cone but lets be honest after #JACOBPACKWATCH that doesn't really seem to be a super lucrative event in the future unless rosa lets that kid off easy which lowkey i kinda doubt with all the evidence. east is just a bad team with its best days behind them. east making a finals again seems like something lightyears away idk how those kids did it in the first place tbh, let alone twice.

NBA COMPARISON: THE KNICKS
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EAST IS ASS. THE KNICKS ARE ASS. EAST HAS A GIANT POPULATION OF SMOGON DOT COM USERS AND NY IS A BIG MARKET. BUT THEY AREN'T MAKING PLAYOFFS!

north(east?) europe
bo7: neomon (1-4)
bo5: d2 (3-0)
bo5: alice (2-2)
sm: tsc (1-2)
sm: blazikin (0-3)
oras: ink (2-1)
bw: bilbooo (1-2)
mg: fan (2-2)

GRONKY THE TRAITOR!! FUCK GRONKY2020! Leru ur a bum. this team was saved by d2 (lost to smb) pooling with boat ncal caca and zoey (transitioned and decided to name herself after a muthafucking league of legends character Lmao.) neomon lost to BIRD AND DOC1203 and shockingly got fingered in tb lmao. neuk needs a lerusignal or at least like an hctc signal bilbooo is not gonna save the city.

okay manic and barely comprehensable Mubs rant aside let's take a look at what went wrong for this team. in the past this team has lowkey underpeformed, it's kind of been a us west situation where they usually have a solid chunk of pl starters/general tour players ready but fall a littttttttle short. this year was no different, these guys all had experience except for avalugg body press enthusiast bilboo. poggers!!!

so what happened in pools? tsc did bad in wc again, neomonster couldn't farm bo7, blazikin (aka the guy that had old tour records so bad the sheet was created) went 0-3 (i love u melo but still), and d2 had the only 3-0. all while hctc, dez and gronky sat on the bench. this team treaded water with a good ish ss but terrible sm with decent to good old gens. overall a semi predictable quite boring occourence in pools. it's fine tho central is the ceo of pools tb -> finals so if they can do it why not neu?!

so okay now it was time for a sweaty threeway no homo and these ties had to be BROKEN.

North Europe vs US Central
SS BO7: neomon vs Nalei
SS BO5: D2TheW vs crucify
MG BO5: 187 Fan vs zioziotrip

North Europe vs US West
SS BO7: neomon vs Trashuny
SS BO5: Aliss vs Waylaid
SM BO5: DezShizzels vs Elo Bandit

and this was the most nonsensical shit ive ever seen. neu is not exactly known for their genius tiebreak decisions, executing an innovative strategy of putting 6 unique players in tb last year and unfortunately getting left in the dust by central. this may have made sense to some people at the time but if you've ever been a good player on a bad team you've just thought to yourself man wouldn't it be cool if i could just play multiple slots? (insert le epic ghosting joke here) but anyway in a 3 way tb, you can, but these guys put a bunch of plumbers and off duty firemen in it and unsuprsingly got smashed by crucify and nalei and maybe indians? i dont remember. realistically you should just put your best players in tb with very few exceptions and those guys didn't do it. fast forward to this year, and let's breakdown every stupid decision in this tb from neu.

1. neomonster in bo7 vs both. this dude lost bo7 to bird and doc. he should not be tiebreaking vs good players if he is losing to those two individuals. cmon.
2. d2 only playing 1 ss game, and vs central. realistically it would be an entire chokejob for central to drop 1 of 2 tbs vs either of these weak ass teams, so putting d2 against the team with the most broken tb in the tour and maybe uhhhh in any 1v1 team tour ever and not vs US FUCKIN WEST is just so fuckin strange. west ss gets farmed. d2 is the ss farmer. idk why these ideas never merged in neu's brain to form an idea. if this decision was made cus d2 didn't want to get ~fatigued~ in 2 matchups then fuckin sack vs central and try ur best to take down west's historically penis ss. they only needed to win 1 measly tb (unless reset but thats not happening with centrals broken as shit tb) so winning at least 1 should be the goal. i understand neomon beat waylaid in pools but if you have a player who just went 3-0 in ss (farming phiwings btw) you should put them in vs the team with a weak ss.
3. gronky nowhere to be found. this dude is just good at the game and i personally would put him like uhhhhh muthafuckin ANYWHERE? if gronky isnt being slotted to randomly clutch high pressure games then why is he even on the gosh diddly darn team in the first place!?
4. dezshizzles en tb. i just don't see a reason to put him here. if tsc runs from tb as he has started to do lately, i would put gronky in and feed. he had a random clutch sm win in pl5 finals. you could honestly even make the case ink should have played, pl put him in a lot of clutch situations where he had to be THAT GUY and he was in semis. he played sm when it was cg and played in wc4. there's 2 good people to feed right dere but nope dez was in kekw. dez was great in pl5 playoffs but overall i think ink is the hotter player. so overall this makes dez the 4th best sm clutch player on the team and the fact that he was in this tb was kind of head scratching.
5. 187 fan in mickeygen vs zio. now look. some people will call this mickeygen tb pick dumb but i actually agree with it. crucify went negative in it and neu is just straight up outclassed in tb so might as well flip. you just need to put a powerful individual there who comes close to zio's skill. 187 fan is not that, respectfully. im not trying to 2 hand jerk zio here, he's not as insanely good as im making him out to be, but he's the better player and just uhhhh carried an unassuming pl team on his back to a ring by winning 9 times. gronky or neomonster vs zio is fine if you think flipping is your best bet, but fan is just a tier or two below zio, and with little clutch experience. i mean i don't think he's gone positive in a team tour ever tbh (woulda been if he didn't tb here, sad!), so putting HIM in THIS TIER as YOUR TB PICK went as well as it was expected to imotbhjs.

FIVE throws in 2 tiebreaks is actually fuckin insane dawg. THERE'S ONLY SIX FUCKIN SLOTS!!!! they picked the right tiers but when it was time to submit lineups these guys pulled a marcus dumb and forgot how to slot in a way that makes any rational sense. if these guys are ever fortunate enough to find themselves in a qualifying tb in the future I DEMAND that they just put their best players in and don't think twice. if they lose, they lose. ggs. even with this insanely suboptimal tb they took west to last game x3 which shows they were putting up a good fight. their mid players were pretty close but at the end of the day they got outclutched by goddamn us west.

GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED: this tour was good experience for quite a few people. it let blazikin derust, it let bilboo get some good experience and let fan get back into playing if he wants to continue doing that. neu can cope and say this was a win in the long run even tho making playoffs would really be the only thing that makes that true, as playoffs experience is quite valuable (unless ur gronky losing to tol).
WHO'S TO BLAME: whoever made these tiebreak decisions. cmon breh. you can't even blame rosa for this region, they had all the tools at their disposal. also their tb players i guess for not winning one series LMAO.
LEGACY WATCH: the netherlands europe won the first 3 world cups into missing playoffs 3 times in a row with viable teams. I'VE DECIDED that they were carried by liam latraumont in wc1, tonyflygon in wc2, and milan in wc3. no solar, you didn't carry that team. anyways, the pieces that are left are average to slightly above average, but seemingly not enough to get the chip. neomonster bragging about clutch gene in pools into double game 7 tb loss may be the most ironically dumb thing to happen in 1v1 in recent memory. the legacy of neu right now is the team that was kinda in the right place at the right time 3 times and now with their best players retired being an aggressively mid team that falls short of the playoffs with some mind bogglingly dumb tb decisions.


tldr they did ok in pools then threw a tb kekw

NBA COMPARISON: THE PISTONS.
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THESE GUYS BOTH HAVE A LOT OF OLD TITLES BUT RECENTLY ARE A NON FACTOR WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING PLAYOFFS AND ARE GENERALLY NOT VERY INTERESTING TEAMS.

bo7: close (3-0)
bo5: pietro (1-2)
bo5: ncalathes (2-1)
sm: xstatic (1-2)
sm: lbdc (0-1) / lancer france (0-2)
oras: soulwind (1-2)
bw: blurb (2-1)
mickeygen: radu (1-2)

this team is allegedly broken. they have the best sm (possibly ever), someone who literally has never gone negative, and like 50 consistent positive team tour slots.

realistically this team should be making playoffs every single year, like there's not a time where pools drop and there are 4 teams that are straight up better and more talented than these dudes. once ur in playoffs shit happens but when it comes to getting there it should be fairly easy for these guys.
so why did they start out 6-10? honestly i don't know. you'd think ss is the issue after team frita going like 3-18 in pl but the sm forgot how to win games. lbdc was rightfully subbed out after showing up and losing to kentari but lancer came in head full of steam and lost twice in like six hours. all the while radoat went negative in a pool with piyush master and crying and was nowhere to be seen the whole tour besides in pb vc with zio playing random ass games.

ok let's be honest the big reason this team fuckin died is that they were very complacent with just seeing how things went without putting in a lot of effort. they won the chip last year after underperforming a few times in previous years and radu got a gf so realistically their drive to win was not high. eggsbuns talked over and over about how nobody was helping and it was his time to carry and then in one clutch game soulwind shows up with the same dogshit that lost him a previous series, totalling his number of mons used in pools to probably like 9 or 10 or something. in another, pietro lost to adam fuckin numbers after cone showed some mercy by bringing gloom TWICE up 2-0 then 2-1 dawg cmon. Btw eggsbert carrying was just begging random ppl for teams mao lol.

there's also the question of like wtf happened with david nadal? he went negative in a pool with bea and mishimono?? 2 free wins. and landon, who is not an easy opponent by any means, but someone he has beat in the past nonetheless. PERSONALLY my david nadal take is that he should have played ss with ldbc lancer france in sm. lancer is a good enough player to pretty much always start, and with as terrible as heatrans ss was, you can easily solve this by putting a top 3 1v1 player all time (probably top 2 but im just being safe man) in the tier after he makes lt finals. he is a good enough ss player and let's be honest with randomized pools and no ss2 ss3 slotting he would probably get some easy opponents. the rule of sm 1v1 is that before the tour it is randomized on who goes positive, negative, or even. kentari and xstatic tended to be immune to this prior to this world cup, but the sm randomizer always wins in the end.

even with pedestrian sm players seu was still in contention to make playoffs the whole way through after close farmed a bo7 pool with sicexv and two bums and ncalathes remembered how to win games. unfortunately david had no clutch gene and fumbled vs someone who had never played sm before leaving the season in the hands of pietro. adam literally tried his best to throw by bringing gloom team 2x for no reason but pietro still lost. u could say pietro never shouldve been there which is true af.

anyway random tangent since we have not put enough focus on the captains of this team. first off lbdc had under like 200 lines this tour and he got lazy and built like nothing new which isnt surprising but still. secondly radu stopped posting his teams or building for anyone else but himself. the expectation as a captain is for u to support your teammates especially if you slot people like pietro or soulwind who need to be fed. you do have to be some kind of leader figure on your team if you assume leadership and indicate activity. "but he had exams and a gf!!!!" do you really think no one in the history of 1v1 has played a mons tour with a busy life? it takes like an hour or two max if you want to scout and prep a few teams for someone. that wouldve went a long way. instead he just did nothing and watched his team lose. he did let eggsbuns try to save seu but cmon that guy cant build 4 slots and solo carry. the minimum responsibility for a team captain is to submit a lineup and he still fumbled that with slotting multiple feeding slots and xsc in the wrong meta. do u notice that the only people that went positive on seu (close, ncal, blurb) are self sufficient? maybe that means something!!! if u dont expect to be active that tour slot ppl that can build for themselves like pa in ss or arguably gorilaa/lancer in sm originally. even if tricking was busy he probably wouldve been better than pietro at piloting and farming noobs like bo bobson and adam numbers lmao. in summary seus captains sucked, lu was bad and everyone underperformed. even with that, the season was easily salvagable but the people left like blurb didn't clean up. a win v urf wouldve went a long way but he brought garbage and got washed.

GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED: Close went god mode in one of the best pools after a shaky pl. he showed he still got it and is a top ss threat still.
ncalathes learned how to win pokemon games!!! his prep got better and better as the pool games went on even if he got slapped by d2. he was also a big help with the pietro prep when other builders got busy.
eblurb (tried) to carry a team!! aka he got 6 people outside of seu to keep the team afloat but they were still more useful than most of seu team members anyway lmao. seu went on a great run being 5-9 and 7-10 but being one game away from playoffs. the team showed what they actually were capable of after two weeks of selling but in the end the season was in the hands of an inexperienced 1v1 player who lost a coinflip at the end.
unfortunately only three people on the whole team went positive and there was a singular 3-0 player so there is nothing much to say

LEGACY WATCH: This team consistently has a top tier lineup but fails to do like anything with it until last year lol. radu is proving himself as a fraud team leader who forgot to win. the only reason seu won last year is because denisthemenace is the goat and they won some coinflips in oldgens. it's becoming apparent this team is running out of time since all of their players are either unmotivated or past their prime except like a few of them lol. i don't know how many of them will be around in wc7 but i feel like this was one of their seu's last attempts at fielding a broken lineup and getting a ring. also these frauds eggsbuns and radu made soulwind go negative loooool if he doesnt come back like finch u got these two goofballs to blame.

NBA COMPARISON: THE 2020 AND ONWARDS LAKERS.
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THEY GOT THEIR RING. COOL. GOOD FOR THEM. BUT EVER SINCE THEN THEIR MANAGEMENT AND PLAYER EFFORT ALL AROUND THE BOARD HAS BEEN SHIT. THEM BEING A FACTOR WHEN IT COMES TO PLAYOFFS SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS A LOT OF SWEEPING CHANGES THAT THE FRANCHISE ARE FAIRLY UNWILLING TO MAKE. RADU IS WESTBROOK ok im kidding im kidding BUT THEY'RE WASTING THEIR TIME WITH LEBRON (XSTATIC) FR. THE CLOCK IS TICKING!

cone
north(east?) europe
bo7: jacob(snake) (1-2)
bo5: delemon (1-2)
bo5: adam numbers (2-1)
sm: bopher (2-1)
sm: mishimono (1-2)
oras: om (1-2)
bw: tom numbers (0-3)
mg: swag god (2-1)

so cone is always an interesting team and by intersting i mean having some great players and then a bunch of noobs that they're kinda forced to take a chance on. in 2020 they honest had an insanely broken team looking back on it, dogknees jacob cp2 darcy + decent.roleplayers (freddy, jabiru, ninjadog) would be broken as shit right now but unfortunately they lost in a 13-11 tb. shoutouts west and neu for being actual dumpster fires that year lol. season over to derek the champion and ever since that moment they haven't cracked above the 7th seed. last year on pacific deg and jacob had the opportunity to have each of their best regions yet and they were the 8th seed LMAO. that was probably one of the biggest chokejobs in 1v1, east and south last year were simply not good teams but they made it in over a team captained by a top ss player and an extremely veteran manager who is known for taking mediocre teams to playoffs (deg did it this year too!)

so why am i talking about cone's past so much? well, this year they had noone LMAO. i mean just look at their lineup dawg. this team is a #5 dark horse max with the assumption that jacob carries them.

someone should get cp2 and dogknees out of retirement for next year, 2020 cone should run it the fuck back what a sick team in all honesty. fuck that failed superteam of pacific 2021 and fuck this boring ass let the g league play expiriment this year, 2020 cone is simply the most interesting and fun to watch cone therefore I WANT TO SEEEE ITTTTTTTT.

this year what happened was they had a ton of noobs starting and some did good but some did bad. tbh delemon going positive was like a constant in my mind, i really thought he would but unfortuntely he didn't do great in his first tour and thats ok mango. the fake tom numbers got farmed and mishimono went negative (shocker) BUT FEAR NOT URSA LEGENDS ADAM NUMBERS AND RTM WENT 2-1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! also this team shoulda started martinvtran that guy showed a pulse in live so why not put him in idk. meanwhile the old guys jacob and om both went 1-2 yawn who really cares. a fairly boring new blood experiment that yielding boring results. jacob didn't really try btw he just built for himself from what i heard so he didn't elevate his noobs in a deg-esque move.

GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED: the noobs got experience Lol

LEGACY WATCH: okay real talk jacob has really struggled with the transition from top player into semi-successful manager. he helped carry porygons (i always want to call them articunos btw) but when it was time to manage himself, he obtained a #8 seed (pacific), #6 (thwackeys) and #7 seed (this cone). not great! also 2020 cone seems to really be their peak lineup wise, their 2019 run to playoffs was fairly mickey and fun fact of the day very nerfed by a random rosa decision to tourban jabiru for no fuckin reason. anyways it seemed like jacob gave up this tour so idek why he managed in the firs place.

NBA COMPARIASON: THE BLAZERS
OK HEAR ME OUT. DAME IS THAT FUCKIN GUY IN THE CLUTCH. JACOB IS PROBABLY THE BEST SS PLAYER. THEY BOTH HAVE NO HELP AND ARE BOTH KIND OF TRYING TO MAXIMISE THEIR TIME WITH THE STARS BUT MISSING PLAYOFFS QUITE HARD ANYWAY. MAYBE JACOB JUST NEEDS TO SHOOT FROM THE LOGO MORE!

ALTERNATIVE NBA COMPARISON: ANY TEAM THAT TANKS LOL
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CONE TANKED TO GET SOME NEW GUYS IN THAT CAN MAYBE HOLD THEIR OWN BETTER NEXT YEAR. FUTURE FACES OF THE FRANCHISE ARE GETTING SOME EXPERIENCE!

US WEST
bo7: waylaid (1-2)
bo5: boat (1-3)
bo5: bo bobbson (1-3)
sm: elo bandit (4-1)
sm: kentari (1-3)
oras: synonimous (3-1)
bw: 64 squares (0-1) / trashuny (3-2)
mg: maki mouse (1-3)

so this year with us west it was really the question of okay guys is this the fuckin year we believe in these guys? some people said yes, the people who are just a little smarter than the other people said no. looking at their lu before the tour started it featured no blanched, no gym socks, and trashuny on the bench. to make matters worse it had phiwings in ss 1v1 and 64 squares in bw like cmon that was a whole ass struggle dawg. their coup to get latin america did NOT succeed so they were left with these goofballs starting. to me, this did not look like us west's year. the question was are they gonna mickey their way to playoffs and get bounced out, or are they gonna be a bottom 3 seed. in 2020 they went from the 8th seed to the 7th seed in 2021 so hey bros anything is possible. realistically this lineup is just significantly worse than last year's like cmon their 2-7 ss looked better than what we got here.

so pools was up and down for these guys. i believe they were a very high seed at the start of the tour. then their ss started playing games. and we know what happens when us west ss does that LMFAO. phiwings and bo bobbson unfortunately did not carry. kentari also just straight up went negative in pools? for those unaware, prior to this tour, there was a list created on players who have ONLY went positive in 3+ team tours played. that list was kentari and blanched so to see kentari go negative in an admittedly hard af pool was not great for his legacy. west's ss was just ass and a negative sm was not good for them.

west basially went from a top seed to a fringe playoff contender if like maki, synon, waylaid and trashuny were able to win a shit load of games. i think they were 8-11 or 9-11 with a day or 2 left? and they did win that shit loud of games LOL, epically securing the 12-12 tiebreak for 2 playoff slots.

then tldr the tb happens and they get shat on by central's superteam tb and barely clutch out 3 wins vs a um, fairly suboptimal neu tb. so what would happen after west actually fuckin clutched? the answer was a 1-0 to 1-7 playoff btfo from the historically good pools team us south to west LOL holy fuckin shit. idk if ive ever seen a 1-0 to 1-7 bodybag in 1v1 mango this was crazy to watch. pqs donated by getting way too lost in the sauce in oras (3-0ing with shuckle tho) and then proceeded to get carried by goats like tol and crying.

ima say it west's sm prep in playoffs was absolute ballsack LMFAO tyler lost to kartana 3 fuckin times vs tol with terrible mus vs it. guy like me would have brought 3+ charizards to counteract like that but not everyone is built like a champion. and then phiwings brings mega blastoise rotom heat rotom heat to lose LOL dude why was west alergic to mons that are good in sun moon 1v1? in unrelated news maki mouse simply did not play good and smb and bo bobbson did not keep west afloat. Ggz west maybe next yr :D
GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED: WEST GOT ONE MORE WIN IN SWORD AND SHIELD 1V1 THAN LAST YEAR POGGERS!! naw but fr a big thing that went right for these dudes is that nobody went winless in pools besides 64 squares. this team was not in good shape this year but with 8 slots all having at least 1 win them not making playoffs would be insane. once everyone grabs a win you only need like 4-5 more LMFAO like come on bro the fact that they had to tb to get in is lowkey kinda odd with all their slots having at least 1 win.
WHO'S TO BLAME: their ss kek and everyone on the team besides synon going marcus dumb in playoffs thats about it.
LEGACY WATCH: okay bros i have a question when the fuck is west's window to win the tour let alone make a finals LOL. it wasn't this year, their lu was simply not good enough, it wasn't last year, or the year before, they were #7 and #8 seed then.
anyways legacy watch CONTINUED but different thought have you guys ever noticed that synon in world cup is THAT fuckin guy he is there to bring dubs, going 3-1 2-1 and 3-1 like dawg west needs to build around this man next year, who knows how long he will be around for. the opposite of that on west is 2-9 girlwings LOL 0-4 into bench into 1-2 into 1-3 there's realistically not a big reason to play boat in single slot sm in the future lol she should lowkey just accept she does not succeed in this tour and that is ok! u can blame her playing ss as the main reason she went negative but cmon bro 2-9 is so insanely bad you just cant ignore that shit. im not an nba player and i will never try to be, gotta come to terms on who u are and ur personal limits mango. also this tour goatari aka alwayspositivetari turned into bumtari aka fraudtari aka woatari aka washedtari aka negativetari aka househusbandtari. also trashuny has taken deg's place as the guy who loses in semis every year kekw. maybe he needs to recruit someone to pass the curse back onto. ALSO FREE JOKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they actually had a good reason to this year kinda at least slots wise idk if on a person to person level if that made sense or not but free him yo.

NBA COMPARISON: THE CLIPPERS.
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CURSED AS SHIT FRANCHISE. NOTHING REALLY GOES THEIR WAY FOR TOO LONG. THEY HAVE THE STARS BUT IT JUST NEVER WORKS OUT.

ALTERNATIVE NBA COMARISON: THE TIMBERWOLVES
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BARELY NUDGES THEIR WAY TO PLAYOFFS. HAVE MISSED PLAYOFFS FREQUENTLY. JUST NOT A TEAM THAT WINS A LOT OF GAMES. EXCEPT THE TIMBERWOLVES ARE GOING UPWARDS. WEST KIND OF IS I GUESS? IDK. THEY MAYBE HAVE BLANCHED AND GYM SOCKS TO BE THE NEW RUDY GOLBERT? BOTH LOST PLAYOFFS WITH A LOT TO LEARN, MAYBE LEVEL UP NEXT SEASON?

ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE NBA COMPARISON: THE KINGS ok just kidding
 

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Did people hate their team so much that we have no shoutout till now? Anyway, unfortunate way to go out, we got Pokemon'd but nothing we could do. As a team labeled by many as shit, that wouldn't succeed, we did good and I really had fun. I also had fun trolling people in the 1v1 cord and see you all mald at me :joy: but you bait much more/worse so idk what was the fuss about.

The only personal shoutout is stravench which was probably the MVP of SS teambuilding. I'm happy I drafted you and thought you about tournament usage and building ways and hope you have fun in your future team tournaments as a support or even as a player hopefully. You did a great job keeping up with my fast pace of analyzing and building so thank you and I wouldn't have done any teambuilding progress in SS without you. @ other people in Asia, you all did a fantastic job and I'm really happy I got to team with every single one of you, you did everything you could and played well and hopefully some of you showed that they can do it with support.

+ this has been the most cringe tour so far and if we continue going the same path, PL will be cringer. Everything was kinda cringe, starting with the game chat, unnecessary and excessive armchairing, and some managerial drama. I know we're all here to have fun but don't suck the fun out of the people. If a person just lost there's no need to excessive armchair especially if you're negative or not playing at all lmfaoo. Constructive criticism is fine, joking around is fun, but there's really a big line between toxic armchairing that just kills the fun and criticism. Also, if you're busy and you don't think you can manage just don't do it, there's no need to do that and literally ruin the fun and disrespect your team members like come on, as a player you're not owed to build and support or do motivational stuff but as a manager that's your role. We all have lives and if you don't have that 2-3 hours every two days to scout/toss idea/get people involved/analyze MUs you don't blame it on having a life. Anw rant over and I don't think hat will change a thing. If my trolling annoyed people, I apologize it was just for fun. Thank you Rosa for hosting. Thank you DezShizzels neomon ncalathes Jabiru bored_glitch Justdelemon for joining Asia. Specially dez, neo, ncal for the huge help in a lot of slots.

We'll get em next time Baleblaze. ASIA STRONG.
 

XSTATIC COLD

Banned deucer.
shoutout the only guy in my team who deserved to, at least, go play off => Close
You are an exemple of motivation and builder. Maybe some guys should inspire from you to go far in tours.

Dude i hope to win with you next team tours.

And agree with deg, it has been cringe af, i didnt enjoy this, i have been flamed because i gave a golisopod team in ss.
Nice bros.
 
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It feels as cringe as always you guys are right but i think its the usual amount of cringe not more or less than usual
the community i think is intimidating for newer users or users that are transitioning to this metagame cause we have permad and dogshit players larping all the time, in combination with all the armchairing (no vacuuming waving a ttar is not risk free) which feels more than in other tour, but even in the other tours i manage im really not as involved with the community as i am here

Re the shoutouts thing deg is prolly right, team deserves a shoutout, if they care about it or not is a different thing but staying positive after all of the bullcrap week 1, still pulling on one string to close out the .500 record and then prep for the tiebreakers

billy is probably the only reason we got our ss and bw games done w fresh and checked teams in pools
glitched was the hidden gem of the tour surely, creative eye for building but still a competitive approach, no nonsense mentality (most of the time)
dez u took on a big responsibility and you stood up to it, i officially pass on my megaray co manager slot to u
I dont think anyone else needs a specific named shoutout, im thankful for all of you for participating and trusting our decisions even tho some were obviously wrong

I dont have to defend myself for slotting into tb twice, those were very exciting series and i was proud to step up to play for the team

Also DEG is this tears kid some milan/dom ghosting slot idr them
 
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World Cup VI Post-Mortem
Trashuny - Your dedication, team support, and focus on winning are all admirable. You showed me how important it is to think everything through completely and play the strongest hand possible at every opportunity.
Waylaid - It's always a pleasure to team with you, great work contributing to West's highest ever SS score and supporting our old gens.
Boat - Thanks for giving me the opportunity to go off in gen 7 this year. It was lots of fun building with you and I look forward to playing together again!
Kentari - Really glad you joined us this year! It's an honor playing next to one of the greats. Your teams are crazy and its always exciting to watch you perform even if it wasn't your best season. You'll always be the goat to us.
bo_bobson27 - Our new blood stepping up in SS and doing his best to fight off the curse. Your passion for building gen 8 was inspiring to everyone on the team.
Synonimous - Goated ORAS, showed up and won, including playoffs. Thanks for carrying us so far this year!
maki - You held your own in MG against some tough customers, and your series were all really fun to watch!
64 Squares - Thanks for putting in the effort even though BW 1v1 was a little unfamiliar. We appreciate your enthusiasm for the team!
SuperMemeBroz - Great attempt this year in MG, and awesome support in SS and old gens! Always fun to work with you.
nolenot - Thanks for all the random teams you dropped in my channel, some of those turned out to be really good.
bird poop - Nice job captaining us to victory royale us best edition!

Joker 1v1, Gym Socks!, Blanched, rumia, Kolohe, Murman - Thanks for all the support!
Rosa - Thanks for hosting another fantastic WC! I had a great time this year as a coach and a player.

Self Reflection - I kinda killed it in pools and tb this year. Wish I didn't drop the ball in playoffs but hey we MADE it to playoffs which was pretty sweet. Broke my previous record and I'll be shooting for 5/0 next season.
Congratulations to USC and wp to USS. Looking forward to next time!
 

Trashuny

Banned deucer.
Congrats central, Nalei wish you could have been this amazing on panchams ;-;

Thanks for bringing us a good season west, but keep your eyes on bo_bobson27. He definitely surpassed my expectations as a teammate. His work ethic is so good, and he brought a lot to us this year. He also brought plenty of new ideas, which I always value. I think that if he gets more experience and strives to improve he has a bright future ahead of him. Keep building and playing bo5s.
 

Tol

Retirement house
ggs south
I still hold that we would have won it all had potatochan held the line against nalei in pools but it is what it is. Was hoping nalei would return to panchams form LOL. Central is the superteam and we couldn't quite pull off the underdog story. Still had a great wc though, even if we couldn't make our claim to be the most dominant wc team in history. I guess we just stacked all our losses in the wrong place. South is in a good place, I think.
Itchy- Supreme Monarch of bw. helped contribute to our absurd amount of X-0s in pools, played the tier that no other reasonable people like, and still had time to manage and tell me all my sm ideas were bad. (they were)
Nick.see- Only ss slot to go positive in pools yay! The next big thing in cg 1v1 fr fr. A little salty about how little it took for you to abandon managing with me but it is what it is.
bird- used fmbot too much.
chater- First team tour and it sure didn't go great. keep your head up, though, take it from someone who didn't get a win until his third team tour there will be more opportunities, especially if you keep doing well in individuals.
Scraftionite- Swiss army knife of a player that you are, you did well.
Squirtell- you once again proved that you're one of the best at sm. 5-0 is a ridiculous feat, and literally forcing zio out of his slot and making central sack a slot to you just shows how dominant you were.
pqs- Another X-0 in pools. one of the best players on south, even if the playoffs weren't kind to you.
lumi- one of the great personalities on south, even if you do play cricket. Had a lot of fun messing around with you in the discord, and you played well too. Don't worry so much about bad sets, they happen all the time.
crying- I ain't know who you are LOL
 

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WC is over, and we had a good run - best pool record ever and 7-1 in semis are amazing accomplishments, and losing to playoffs mode central is nothing to be ashamed of. Thank you everyone who supported us during the tournament!

Nick.see thanks for stepping up to captain and holding your own in SS, glad I got to know you better the past month and a half. Thanks for entertaining my ideas for the potential tiebreak, even if we didn't get that far.

crow crumbs your record doesn't give you credit for how helpful you were. You helped every person who went through the revolving door that was our ss3, provided crying with their SS teams, and even helped pqs with oras in semis. Thanks so much for everything!

cleffa hater I'm glad you got some more exposure with WC, don't beat yourself up over your pool record, that was probably the hardest pool of anyone on the team. Thanks for sticking around during playoffs (including your win in semis!) and being a good sport. You've got better things ahead of you, I'm sure.

Scraftionite thanks for stepping up in playoffs! You did great in semis, but sorry that finals wasn't ideal for you. I hope you had a good time regardless

Squirtell 1v1 I knew you were good but wow- Your run was super impressive this tour, really glad you joined us this year! You were always a great presence in chat, and your teams were always heat.

Tol you're always a delight to team with! Whether it was 2am ramblings or just everyday banter, you brightened up the team Discord consistently. You're the only person I that has made me laugh while watching a series live, and you did it no less than 3 separate times. Thanks for holding down our SM2 slot, even if you would rather have played MG

pqs thanks for stepping into our ORAS slot for pools / semis and SS in finals! Your pool record was great, and I'm glad you were on the team this year. Playoffs was less kind to you but it is what it is, keep your head up

Lumii thanks for everything, truly. You kept the team active, kept me on track with BW, bounced ideas off me, and picked up wins at the end of pools and in semis. I'm really glad we got to play together this WC. Hope irl things improve sooner rather than later

crying you did amazingly! Thanks for holding down MG. Hope all of your other tours go well too!

Scholar Gray thanks for filling out the lineup! Hope to see you all around again sometime soon :>
swag god Justdelemon luser tears abd1710 Bopher eblurb doc1203 STABLE thanks for the support, especially if you were around when nick was on a tight schedule for finals

FailureGirl Bilbooo thanks for joining our BW core, loved bouncing ideas off you two

DezShizzels thanks for your BW / SS support :joy:

Rellia Satanic Beast thanks for helping bird fill his daily larp quota

Baleblaze Thanks for joining in finals, you didn't go unnoticed

Rosa ty for hosting once again! You made sure this tour ran smoothly, especially with the finals situation (iykyk)

If I forgot to ping you here you call me a silly goose and pretend I said something witty
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