Gren is this awkward middle child to WW and Golduck. Gren has the ice/grass/psy coverage of golduck but not the raw power of WW, and the same speed issues that make forcing WW out really easy. Sure Gren can say hit rotom W with a strong neutral stab move but WW says “fuck it we ball” and does more clicking pump. And keep in mind this is specs Gren, so either get even weaker or simply always predict if you want to use that stellar coverage.Golduck is defo scary. Its ability to offensively deal with Tera Water Garganacl, Skeledirge and Dondozo that give Floatzel trouble is pretty neat. While Greninja can also do this, Golduck is much faster and has access to NP, both things that differentiate it enough. Golduck is also slightly more bulky than Floatzel so it can take a Sucker Punch if it really needs to.
Why is everyone talking about Golduck? What changed for it this gen? And why are people wanting to rank it on the VR?Golduck is defo scary. Its ability to offensively deal with Tera Water Garganacl, Skeledirge and Dondozo that give Floatzel trouble is pretty neat. While Greninja can also do this, Golduck is much faster and has access to NP, both things that differentiate it enough. Golduck is also slightly more bulky than Floatzel so it can take a Sucker Punch if it really needs to.
It’s one of the only special Swift Swimmers rn, which is a role it’s normally outclassed at, but it currently doesn’t have competition for its Swift Swim Hydro Pumps.Why is everyone talking about Golduck? What changed for it this gen? And why isn't it on the VR?
Is this a meme or something?
globally seismitoad, ludicolo and kingdra dedWhy is everyone talking about Golduck? What changed for it this gen? And why are people wanting to rank it on the VR?
Is this a meme or something or does it actually have a small niche in the meta? Someone explain!
That’s not quite true either as Golduck also got nasty plot and grass knot this gen. It gives Golduck this insane niche compared to something like KingdraIt’s one of the only special Swift Swimmers rn, which is a role it’s normally outclassed at, but it currently doesn’t have competition for its Swift Swim Hydro Pumps.
It has Nasty Plot now for one.Why is everyone talking about Golduck? What changed for it this gen? And why are people wanting to rank it on the VR?
Is this a meme or something or does it actually have a small niche in the meta? Someone explain!
Probably not the set for which it has been ranked, but Restalk Wo-Chien with Knock Off and Body Press has high durability and checks lost of threats, like Floatzel (very few things switch into Tera Water Floatzel, Pdef Wo Chien is one of them) or Kingambit, while knocking items. Has good amount of Tera options to check different things. Used this Mon a lot, it works.Why has wo-Chein been added (or why was Wo-Chein added, whichever is grammatically correct)?
I only know of its performance from the memes, which, while funny, was not very informative.
There's been a couple Wo-Chien stalls popping up in tours lately and they seem functional enough. It provides the rare Knock, Leech Seed+Protect to wear stuff down, and its defensive typing is somewhat usable thanks to resistances to Ghost and Water.Why has wo-Chein been added (or why was Wo-Chein added, whichever is grammatically correct)?
I only know of its performance from the memes, which, while funny, was not very informative.
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Decent chip that can break Life Aura and comes in M code. Not the best, but Beast Lock-On or Chip Charging makes it more than usable outside of that. Better than the other garbage in D.
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Static can be really funny and it's way easier to hit than Tornado when fully powered, but using it requires filling yourself with bugs and mandates BugFix. While BugFix is practically a staple, there are too many times where you're holding onto it waiting for a good Static play but it never showing up. You can make an argument to stay in B purely due to Dust Chute in Falzar, but that's still not worth higher than C imo.
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Super underrated tbh. M code, easy to hit thanks to Slash Cross, and inflicts HP Bug even after your opponent BugFixes themselves. Should be used more.
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Reflector, on the other hand, is super overrated. Trying to guess when your opponent is going to do anything is way too inconsistent, it only hits in your row, and it's not a dimming chip. Just max out on AntiDmg and Invis.
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Another overrated chip. Against Gregar players you'll want to hit Slash Cross, and Slash might be camping the front row where this won't hit. Falzar players have two sources of Air Shoes to not care about the cracked panels. And ElementMan * exists for removing Sanctuary. Main thing JustcOne has going for it is J code, which is one of the best codes in the game so it's easy to slap into a folder.
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I don't care if it's Z code, taking half damage without being forced to camp one panel is dumb. This has saved games.
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Still think this is too gimmicky to pull off consistently. Yes, panel locking the opponent for so long can end the game, but setting it up and keeping it is a crapshoot.
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Just because people haven't been using BDT recently doesn't mean it's stopped being one of the scariest Gigas to face. I know I mentioned Dust Chute not being perfect earlier, but it potentially giving a turn 2 BDT shapes how the rest of a match is played. The chip is far too influential to ignore.
Happy April Fools btw.
Wo-Chien is actually quite bulky when not hit by super effective moves. Leech seed makes good progress for it given its bulk, and its counters dont like knock offWhy has wo-Chein been added (or why was Wo-Chein added, whichever is grammatically correct)?
I only know of its performance from the memes, which, while funny, was not very informative.
sorry for necropost but this is where my thread defaulted to and this line in particular aged pretty funnily in context of "usage > VR"Kingambit I don't think is S ranked, it's not 2 of the top Pokémon
Sandy Shocks is probably D tier because it may have 101 speed but it still gets outspeed by threats like Garchomp(barely),Iron Threads,Greninja,and Meowscarda. Also it gets walled pretty bad by Toedscruel(not OU but still a good example) which in turn can can take out it because of its meh-ish bulk.Curious as to why Sandy Shocks is in D tier. It's not great, of course, but being a pivot that just barely eeks out past base 100 speed mons seems useful, especially paired with its strong offensive presence due to its typing + fairly good sp. attack. I get why it wouldn't be above C, but it feels like it has more of a niche than mfing maushold, especially on sun teams.
VR looks really good overall!
They're Battle Chips from Mega Man Battle Network 6. The series copied Pokémon and had two versions for each game.I know this is april fools but now I'm curious. Are these even pokemon in the first place? With how dumb the paradox mons names are, I don't even know which is a pokemon and which isn't
You replied to a comment that was literally from december (Chi-Yu meta, for reference)... Shocks is currently B Rank and a very legitimate option as a special attackers and the downsides you mentioned hold it back a bit but don't make it unviable at all. Toedscruel is also a mon you kind of only see on suicide lead sets so it's not very relevant that it would wall Shocks, better examples of things that give it trouble are Ting-Lu and bulky Grasses (and even then, the best one, Amoonguss, isn't even a Ground resist).Sandy Shocks is probably D tier because it may have 101 speed but it still gets outspeed by threats like Garchomp(barely),Iron Threads,Greninja,and Meowscarda. Also it gets walled pretty bad by Toedscruel(not OU but still a good example) which in turn can can take out it because of its meh-ish bulk.
It may be kinda fast and hit hard but it is not fast enough to sweep,and it is not bulky enough to stay in the match. Hope this answers your question.
I don't want to completely derail the thread, but since this has come up again, is it really necessary that we address new players this way? I really thought everyone had moved past this. What is this user supposed to gain from lurking more? There are plenty of resources (SQSA, sample teams, Strategy Dex) they could access or discussion threads (metagame thread, good cores, bazaar, etc.) they could participate in with their current level of knowledge. Maybe if you start referring people to those instead of laughing at their posts and telling them to lurk more then people will actually want to stick around long enough to become better at the game. Also not to be harsh but it appears you've been a member of the site hardly past a year. Doesn't much give you claim to veteran status here.You replied to a comment that was literally from december (Chi-Yu meta, for reference)... Shocks is currently B Rank and a very legitimate option as a special attackers and the downsides you mentioned hold it back a bit but don't make it unviable at all. Toedscruel is also a mon you kind of only see on suicide lead sets so it's not very relevant that it would wall Shocks, better examples of things that give it trouble are Ting-Lu and bulky Grasses (and even then, the best one, Amoonguss, isn't even a Ground resist).
Not trying to be harsh but I think you should lurk a bit more, your comment doesn't exactly reek of experience with the OU metagame or the way the forums work (I'm also pretty sure double commenting isn't allowed? or at the very least heavily frowned upon)