Honestly I do not necessarily think it will be banned, doesn't match super well into most of the top threats if it doesn't use nasty plot or specs, and setting up in a meta full of hazards is well, frankly not gonna be easy in practice. Also without nasty plot or specs, it can miss out on a lot of OKHOs or 2HKOs like on and . I think that Darkrai could stick around since it seems managable to deal with honestly. Also forgot to mention its stab is only 80 base power.Just gonna say I agree with all the unbans except for maybe darkrai which I expect to get banned in the near future. For some reason, whenever I read people´s posts about darkrai they completely ignore the tera impact it will have on the mon , constantly claiming it was nerfed while it did receive Knock Off as a tool, making it harder to answer reliably. Regardless, Volcarona, Roaring Moon and Gliscor were never broken in my eyes and they belong in OU, so good job giving them another chance. I will quickly add that it would be fair to test Zamazenta Crowned as well, since I was always of the opinion that regular Zamazenta was stronger, with regular Zamazenta being clearly balanced. I think there is a comparison to be made between Zama C and Hoopa, they are both high BST demons, except all Zama C does is smoke HO and Gambit (aka meta) and Hoopa smokes Stall. If we were in a meta like Gen8, people would claim Hoopa was the broken one and Zama was shit. With all of that being said, Im happy with the unbans in general and am hoping the meta settles soon for a Gholdengo suspect.
I somewhat agree on Zamazenta-C. I feel one doesn't need to go out of their way to come up with team structures or cores to give the mon trouble. Lando-T + GKing, Gliscor's Spikes, Volcarona, Boldengo, Toxapex, Zapdos, etc. are all good Pokemon that I will be running irrespective of Zamazenta-C and can reasonably keep it in line, albiet Gliscor itself loses the 1v1. This Pokemon can't run all of Behemoth Bash, Crunch, ID, Body Press, Rest, Roar, Stone Edge, and Wild charge to win vs all of these threats. Being so vulnerable to passive damage is another flaw that I don't think Alolamola support will completely fix. That being said, I see a lot of players already aren't fond of normal Zama because of how high its stats are, and the innate Toxic immunity + higher SpDef of Zama-C will make it a more annoying cheese mon to face for certain HO structures. That being said, most HOes will have Gholdengo and Volcarona by default so I am somewhat skeptical to this claim. Regardless, for now, we don't need to let the dog out, especially as a good chunk of players want one of its best answers, Boldengo, banned.Just gonna say I agree with all the unbans except for maybe darkrai which I expect to get banned in the near future. For some reason, whenever I read people´s posts about darkrai they completely ignore the tera impact it will have on the mon , constantly claiming it was nerfed while it did receive Knock Off as a tool, making it harder to answer reliably. Regardless, Volcarona, Roaring Moon and Gliscor were never broken in my eyes and they belong in OU, so good job giving them another chance. I will quickly add that it would be fair to test Zamazenta Crowned as well, since I was always of the opinion that regular Zamazenta was stronger, with regular Zamazenta being clearly balanced. I think there is a comparison to be made between Zama C and Hoopa, they are both high BST demons, except all Zama C does is smoke HO and Gambit (aka meta) and Hoopa smokes Stall. If we were in a meta like Gen8, people would claim Hoopa was the broken one and Zama was shit. With all of that being said, Im happy with the unbans in general and am hoping the meta settles soon for a Gholdengo suspect.
In this post, the council said that base kyurem will be allowed:Wait wait, is kyruem starting off in ubers? if not then why do i see it being talked about(maybe people know its going to do its stuff again?), it seems like its going to ubers instantly
so based pls give it scorching sandsyou want volc to get scorching sands because it's thematically appropriate
i want volc to get scorching sands so we can finally ditch its lousy ass from OU for good
we are not the same
That time where I Tera'd my x2 CM, Seed activated Sinistcha to Poison on the exact turn that my foe Tricked a previously unrevealed Black Sludge. I didn't get to play with it, the match ended there.What's your favorite moment in DLC1? The most fun I had in this DLC was when
The chaos when Ogerpon Fire was allowed, cause it was soooo funny (but clearly uncompetitive).What's your favorite moment in DLC1? The most fun I had in this DLC was when
The time, when my tera was burned and my was tricked a , won a 1v1 with a banded because my stun spored it and it got parad 8 times in a row! all hail RNGWhat's your favorite moment in DLC1?
Dnite was doing great when Moon was on the tierso I doubt much will change since they offer different roles and Dnite has way more utility.I really Hope Dnite stays viable with the dlc2 additions and Roaring moon coming back. I just want to DDance once and say "fuck it we speed". Brain empty.
Is the new tera mechanic starting in OU btw?
Top 10 Mons in the final Teal Mask metaAs a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
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Personal top 10 of DLC1This is more of an announcement-type post, but today will be the last day for this thread.
The OU Mod team will be doing the usual procedure for DLC, which means:
- I will make a new metagame discussion thread with all the information as fast as I can (my personal goal is by Friday morning at the latest)
- We will have a mon reservation thread so that individual threads for the returning and new pokemon are posted
- We are working with discord staff to set up some type of kick-off or release tour, but we will announce details at a later time once we figure it out
If you have any questions or feedback, feel free to PM me or another moderator. PS-wise, we don't have any information/leaks, which means that the devs will need a little longer to implement everything. I have no idea how long it'll take, but give them time and in the mean time, enjoy the DLC if you've purchased it in-game.
This meta/time of gen was definitely not easy, but we made it to the end, and we'll hopefully have a better time starting from tomorrow. Thank you all for your patience and contributions up until now.
As a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooThe time, when my tera was burned and my was tricked a , won a 1v1 with a banded because my stun spored it and it got parad 8 times in a row! all hail RNG
WE GOT ALL TYPES OF REACT GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck it we BALL.As a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
Gonna do this based off how much I like using them lmao I think the VR already has viability down well enoughAs a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
It's because, in part at least (I think), Volcarona's QB was dumb and it's also just not difficult to force tera and then kill it with something elseit is weird that we voted to bring back volcarona.
I really didn't see that coming.
is it because blissey is back to OU?
1: Band LokixAs a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
We have a much more stable meta compared to several months ago, with most of the broken stuff getting banned during or some time after Volcarona's own ban. We have more potential answers to it as well, and teambuilding as a whole has become a bit more flexible, with things like Encore (definitely not popular cause of Gambit, no no) being used quite frequently. The meta has also shifted from being primarily HO/H-stack centric to being more focused around Balance and maybe BO teams.it is weird that we voted to bring back volcarona.
I really didn't see that coming.
is it because blissey is back to OU?
top ten ~~canon gay ships~~ two mon cores of the metaAs a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
the issue with any type of set like that is that you forfeit moveslots. (not to the rebalance yet)I'm genuinely curious to see how things go with Darkrai. I'm expecting, as others have said, that sleep won't be a big part of its gameplan except maybe in low ladder, which is a shame for how great and thematic a design it has. It doesn't look like it gets Gravity or any accuracy raising moves, but I do notice it gets Disable. Do you think any sort of Sub+Disable set could have niche use, either to fish for more sleep hits or let it boost/attack more?
If you could redesign Dark Void to be meaningful but still have a semblance of balance, what would you do? I had an idea that I've been sitting on:
Dark Void: At the end of the next turn (like Yawn), puts the opponent to sleep and traps them for the duration of that sleep. Cannot miss.
This would solve the RNG element but still leave a measure of control in both players' hands. It would force switches like crazy and be a cool checkmate against your opponent's final pokemon (like Perish Song), but it wouldn't let Darkrai avoid attacks aimed at it on that turn. It would inspire the sense of fear and impending doom that Darkrai should without being as much of a hit-or-miss cheese element. Do you think this would have given Darkrai some staying power in Ubers?