Since the move directly mentions Heal Block, and we know Heal Block doesn't stop Regen, it's highly unlikely
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]
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But we aren't playing this. It's about metagame discussion as they are now. Informed guesses, speculation, all that has a place in the Orange Islands. I figured this thread is about "how are these trends affecting us now, not on the future" I'm only being a stickler because I come here to learn and keep up with the ever evolving meta. Mods made a whole thread to discuss tera cause it kept cluttering the main thread. I really alwan a talk about the current trends somewhere, and lol and behold, this is the spot.
So, kind mods, able to remove posts for being too "jokey", can you tell me where I can go to discuss the current metagame trends? I'll gladly migrate there. Promise I'll stay on topic.
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Prior to the release of HOME there was a lot of speculation about the HOMEmons in that thread as well. And that was in a meta that was decently balanced and fun (post-Shed Tail at least). It's not really a surprise that people would ratehr talk about new additions that will make the meta look very different, especially considering how little people seem to like this one
Yeah it'd need to Tera Dark to be immune to Psychic Noise.
Tera Dark is already a good tera type for Clod so thats not unheard of.
But Psychic Noise could actually see massive stonk increases for many bulky Dark types. Suddenly Mons like Wo-Chien, Umbreon, and Grimmsnarl come to mind.
But we have a place for that. I'm not complaining about the speculation, just that we literally have a spot for that. I'd expect that thread to blow up, and it would if folks weren't on here instead.
I'm not even sure if this convo breaks the rules, I'm not sure what being on topic is. Seriously, where do I go for this current meta discussion? Like current terra trends that caught people off guard?
Tera dark isn't a good clod type because you then become weak to the fairies you put clod on a team to check in the first place. That's part of what made people realize how busted Espathra was. Plus stall already needs Tera types to cover for offensive grasses and the like.
Also no psychic Noise isn't making unviable darks viable. Umbreon and Grimm still suck.
Wow. Psychics are either busted or useless, with very little in between.
Even my Hatterene uses Draining Kiss far more than what feels like a filler Psychic move, even though the latter is at least 30 bo higher
We can just ban Baxalibur when it's found to be broken under Aurora Veil. Excalibur doesn't actually contribute much defensively aside from being a Water-resist while being really hard to answer defensively.
The problem is this meta is basically a dead meta, the current trends are effectively irrelevant and this is effectively uncharted territory people are more interested in the effects 100+ new Pokémon will have on the meta in less than a month
Consider we where already discussing light clay/grimmsnarl/dragapult bans I think we end up with some kind of action taking against that archetype itself
Once again, Light Clay and Screens being spammed is symptomatic of blatantly broken offensive Pokemon in the meta, not that the playstyle itself is unhealthy.
Hmm, based on how Iron Leaves was, I'm gonna take a guess that Iron Crown's stat spread will look something like this
90/70/104/130/88/108
90/70/104/130/88/108
Let's compare Virizion and Cobalion's stats
Now let's look at Iron Leaves' stats
Maybe swap the defenses and that's Iron Crown's stats. I hope this isn't the case to - that'd be unoriginal
KamenOH
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Id swap the offenses, since the 2 hit move is apparently special.
Bumping this bc people don't read.
What is there to discuss? The metagame is incredibly stale and unlikely to change in the near future before the dlc drops. The topics that are there have been discussed to death and with Kingambit not being banned here, the metagame is just stuck.
And if you really feel that way, maybe YOU could contribute to discussions.
Basically they did a "Because someone called it this way and stuck"... Sounds like something the community would do. As a reminder, we're the community who called the cut of pokémons DEXIT and called mons shiny before its official nomination, while we're close to a community who called a cloud platform Randall, names a special launching angle Sakurai from pure spite and also persistent hitbox kicks... I can't say it on smogon (Please smogon don't ban me for the last link).
And still tpc insists on "First partner pokemon" rather than saying starter like an earth-born human being.
Wait, they're NOT called starters?.. You know my answer, just like everyone else's.
Perfect!
What tera types and strategies have caught you off guard lately? Gale Wings Talonflame caught me pretty hard. It was Talon's claim to fame, I'm so used to being defensive this meta! Legit thought I was facing a hacker for a bare moment.
Sorry to be rude, but where are said orange islands? Hope is not an insult to kick us off.
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