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Smogon University PO Statistics — May 2011
- Thread starter Rising_Dusk
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Zapdos only needs .1% more... :(
Use it, people! Keep it in OU! It must never leave the tier!!!
Tornadus is in UU now, but it can't spam Hurricane down there, so it'll probably not fare as well in its new home.
Espeon is an interesting OU addition. Its typing kinda screws it over, because it lacks Lati@s' epic STAB, or Reuniclus' epic ability (and it's less bulky than both of them). Plus, it has a terrible offensive movepool (Shadow Ball, Psychic/Psyshock, and Hidden Power). Really, it can Baton Pass, and... what else? I doubt it'll last too long.
EDIT: smd, Ferrothorn.
Use it, people! Keep it in OU! It must never leave the tier!!!
Tornadus is in UU now, but it can't spam Hurricane down there, so it'll probably not fare as well in its new home.
Espeon is an interesting OU addition. Its typing kinda screws it over, because it lacks Lati@s' epic STAB, or Reuniclus' epic ability (and it's less bulky than both of them). Plus, it has a terrible offensive movepool (Shadow Ball, Psychic/Psyshock, and Hidden Power). Really, it can Baton Pass, and... what else? I doubt it'll last too long.
EDIT: smd, Ferrothorn.
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Huh? Tornadus learns rain dance you know...
Anyway, I'm glad Espeon is finally where it belongs. It doesn't look like Zapdos and Celebi are going to last long in UU either (they aren't UU quality, people!)
The fact that Latias may become UU is frightening though.
Use Espeon on a BP team with Calm Mind/Hidden Power Fighting, Stored Power, Substitute, and Baton Pass, and you'll understand why it's not UU...
Lucario at 40, Virizion is even lower and Latias barely scrapes OU.
Yet we have Swampert at 35. Really guys? REALLY?
Still wondering what people see in Pert.
Yet we have Swampert at 35. Really guys? REALLY?
Still wondering what people see in Pert.
Yep, its Chandelure
I agree Quagsire has more uses, but Swampert also get Stealth Rock unlike Quag.
Also thank you Rising Dusk.
Espeon is OU because it's probably the best screener for the common Smash Pass team. It's 'immune' to Taunt so screens are more than likely going up, and it's unable to be phazed making a good recipient of the Shell Smash in a pinch.SlimMan said:
I agree, especially because as previous poster said, Quagsire just counters whatever swampert counters only much better. and Quagsire can recover and stop setup sweepers too! but hey, I'm fine with Quaggy in UU.
Quagsire with Unaware > Swampert, hell even Hydration Whiscash is a better option.
Id imagine that Swampert would fit well in UU considering its almost exactly like OU of 4th gen.
But Tornadus has to set up in UU. That's my point. He can't come in and fire off his Specs Hurricanes anymore (I think Specs is most common, right?).
I agree that Celebi and Zapdos belong in OU, though. Latias, too.
But it's frail as shit. Even with screens, a hell of a lot things can still OHKO it, meaning that you really only get one shot at your SmashPass. Maybe I'm just too used to Deo-S doing that job :/ (who can Taunt any Taunter/Phazer other than Prankster).
Just some interesting stuff. Here's the differentials for all the currently OU Pokemon.
Interesting stuff:
Espeon has jumped by 9 slots, becoming OU next time the tier is recalculated.
Haxorus is up +9, fuck yeah.
Hydreigon and Infernape basically switched places, which is interesting.
Magnezone AT +11, WHAT IS THIS. I guess people have finally figured out that you actually can trap Ferrothorn with it.
Scrafty at -6. It's a shame, because Scrafty is just... underrated.
A lot of the more "borderline" Pokemon kinda got switched around. Down at the bottom of the cutoff, you have -7 Landorus, -6 Latias, -8 Whimsicott, and -5 Darmanitan. We might be looking at UU Latias...
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+ ---- + --------------- + ------ + ------- + --- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Usage | Percent | +-# |
+ ---- + --------------- + ------ + ------- + --- +
| 1 | Tyranitar | 119711 | 21.8169 | +1 |
| 2 | Ferrothorn | 117960 | 21.4978 | -1 |
| 3 | Garchomp | 113074 | 20.6073 | +1 |
| 4 | Scizor | 107394 | 19.5722 | -1 |
| 5 | Gliscor | 87936 | 16.0260 | == |
| 6 | Latios | 81312 | 14.8188 | == |
| 7 | Rotom-W | 74332 | 13.5467 | +3 |
| 8 | Excadrill | 72129 | 13.1452 | -1 |
| 9 | Reuniclus | 68412 | 12.4678 | -1 |
| 10 | Heatran | 68095 | 12.4101 | -1 |
| 11 | Jirachi | 65026 | 11.8507 | +1 |
| 12 | Dragonite | 64329 | 11.7237 | +2 |
| 13 | Conkeldurr | 61359 | 11.1825 | -2 |
| 14 | Politoed | 59370 | 10.8200 | -1 |
| 15 | Gengar | 58717 | 10.7010 | -1 |
| 16 | Skarmory | 54634 | 9.9568 | +2 |
| 17 | Thundurus | 54391 | 9.9126 | -2 |
| 18 | Jellicent | 49694 | 9.0565 | -1 |
| 19 | Starmie | 46790 | 8.5273 | +1 |
| 20 | Volcarona | 42924 | 7.8227 | -1 |
| 21 | Infernape | 41804 | 7.6186 | +4 |
| 22 | Gyarados | 40430 | 7.3682 | -1 |
| 23 | Blissey | 40129 | 7.3134 | +1 |
| 24 | Forretress | 37361 | 6.8089 | -1 |
| 25 | Ninetales | 34024 | 6.2007 | +1 |
| 26 | Hydreigon | 34009 | 6.1980 | -4 |
| 27 | Haxorus | 33256 | 6.0608 | +9 |
| 28 | Salamence | 32868 | 5.9901 | == |
| 29 | Magnezone | 32777 | 5.9735 | +11 |
| 30 | Terrakion | 32672 | 5.9544 | +4 |
| 31 | Vaporeon | 29003 | 5.2857 | -4 |
| 32 | Metagross | 28745 | 5.2387 | +1 |
| 33 | Breloom | 28481 | 5.1906 | -4 |
| 34 | Chandelure | 27876 | 5.0803 | -4 |
| 35 | Swampert | 27815 | 5.0692 | == |
| 36 | Cloyster | 26698 | 4.8656 | +2 |
| 37 | Scrafty | 26494 | 4.8284 | -6 |
| 38 | Hippowdon | 26166 | 4.7687 | +1 |
| 39 | Tentacruel | 25863 | 4.7134 | -7 |
| 40 | Lucario | 25625 | 4.6701 | -3 |
| 41 | Machamp | 23961 | 4.3668 | +1 |
| 42 | Deoxys-S | 23920 | 4.3593 | -1 |
| 43 | Toxicroak | 22830 | 4.1607 | +6 |
| 44 | Virizion | 22229 | 4.0512 | +6 |
| 45 | Espeon | 22019 | 4.0129 | +9 |
| 46 | Bronzong | 21683 | 3.9516 | == |
| 47 | Porygon2 | 21163 | 3.8569 | +5 |
| 48 | Mienshao | 21101 | 3.8456 | -1 |
| 49 | Venusaur | 21001 | 3.8274 | +2 |
| 50 | Landorus | 20408 | 3.7193 | -7 |
| 51 | Latias | 19992 | 3.6435 | -6 |
| 52 | Whimsicott | 19976 | 3.6406 | -8 |
| 53 | Darmanitan | 19229 | 3.5044 | -5 |
+ ---- + --------------- + ------ + ------- + --- +Espeon has jumped by 9 slots, becoming OU next time the tier is recalculated.
Haxorus is up +9, fuck yeah.
Hydreigon and Infernape basically switched places, which is interesting.
Magnezone AT +11, WHAT IS THIS. I guess people have finally figured out that you actually can trap Ferrothorn with it.
Scrafty at -6. It's a shame, because Scrafty is just... underrated.
A lot of the more "borderline" Pokemon kinda got switched around. Down at the bottom of the cutoff, you have -7 Landorus, -6 Latias, -8 Whimsicott, and -5 Darmanitan. We might be looking at UU Latias...
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Just pass Espeon a Quiver Dance, a couple of Calm Minds, and an Acid Armor, and it bulldozes effortlessly through absolutely everything. I tested that set with a baton pass team and found that my opponent always lost if he couldn't break the chain before it got to Espeon.
Sub + SD Garchomp for the win
THE cookie-cutter set of the current meta
Victini is #1 in UU and not even close to OU, just as I predicted. gj guys.
Dumb statement. While Swampert is no longer the defensive stalwart it used to be, it's still the single most reliable Water/Ground type in the tier. Try running Choice Band in the Rain. Imagine Azu with better offensive and defensive typing with the ability to get past Jellicent.
yeah ive been told about that
guess thats the most used chomp set
i need to get into the new meta sooner
OMG Thank you!
I'm sick and tired of people saying Swampet sucks.
CB Swampert hit amazingly hard and checks/counters Tyranitar/Thundurus
And there's people who switch in things like Reuniclus/Conkeldurr expecting to set up with ease just to get 2HKO'd, people don't switch-in their Reuniclus/Conkeldurr to Azumarill. >_>
That's what I dislike. A single boost or two won't normally do it. At least, in my opinion, you have to practically make a Baton Pass team around, which I wasn't willing to do. Maybe I'm using it wrong (which is possible, Baton Passing was never my forté), but I don't think Espeon should be OU (it's better than Swampert, though. New Electivire, anyone? No, Chandelure is not the new Evire. It at least has awesome immunities and an obscene Specs set, despite being a terrible sweeper.).
WTF is Staraptor doing at #27 in BW UU. Adamant Band Reckless 2HKO's the whole tier, except dumb crap like Eviolite Metang. I must say, I'm really suprised it's not top ten. Great revenge killer, Antisun Poke or just hard hitter. Also Wobbuffet in NU is just retarded. It can take +1 Heracross megahorn, ffs.
Other random shit that really shouldn't be NU:
Honchkrow
Gorebyss
Cresselia
Sharpedo
Yanmega
Swellow
Absol
Rotom-C
Other random shit that really shouldn't be NU:
Honchkrow
Gorebyss
Cresselia
Sharpedo
Yanmega
Swellow
Absol
Rotom-C
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