gonna do what I did in slate 5 of FERU and separate these by category
Drop:
Weird mon, probably still not good, SD+Sucker is pretty cool though. Easy drop.
Stronger than Salasian on both sides, but noticeably slower and with a
much worse typing. Sure it can set screens, but tbf if we didn't drop this now some other garbage screens mon would be voted in anyway. Cursed to be a shitmon, just let it drop.
Not much to do by way of stats with this one, so I say let it drop and pray it isn't busted. We've already got a stupid strong physical Fighting type to check it, and we'll probably get more from this slate, so I have faith.
Really strong but really slow. Suffers the same pitfalls here as it does in RU. Should be amazing on TR but TR has never been a consistent playstyle. Easy drop.
The most whatever mon in history. Literally already outclassed by Regidurr. Send this shit to the glue factory. Also run manual HailVeil.
Didn't realize this got Belly Drum. Might actually be kinda threatening down here. Still isn't good tho, so very easy drop once again.
Had this in ‘Don’t Drop’ but then I realized it literally already has two mons that fully wall it. Maybe it’ll be more than niche here, good to drop.
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As long as we don't add Rain this seems like a generic bulky tank (hint: don't add Rain).
Honestly seems super threatening down here, but in a good way. Tough to revenge with its speed tier + Scarf denial, but Magic Surge also means it can't run Specs or Scarf for maximum threat level, making its sets very predictable. Would love some Fairy options that aren't the baby.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, mon is fine in almost any tier it ends up in. Easy drop, maybe it can do some more cool stuff here.
Glad y’all saw the light on this one. Easy drop.
Drop (with changes):
I do not like how fat this is for NU. A change is 100% necessary for me to feel comfortable with dropping this, but I'm not sure what sort of change would be best. Sure, you could remove the +20 to SpDef, but that still isn't very appealing since it's still a really really good but also extremely passive blanket physical wall. Give it Pure Power if real.
Would be an easy drop, but honestly it's really really fat for NU with Unaware. Since it has to rely on the arguably less reliable Wish for recovery I'm inclined to say it's fine, but imo a slight bulk nerf off-rip with the potential to give it back later is the play here. Better safe than sorry.
Just give it a slight stat nerf and we chillin
Drop Speed. Also maybe drop SpAtk a bit (a full 3 points!) since special sets are super potent. Also
maybe drop physical bulk a little bit but that's probably not necessary. Otherwise seems chill.
Bring back Mold Breaker >:(
Mr. Fish. Goes kinda crazy so I'd maybe drop Speed a bit.
Revert it to pre-buff. Seems like a cool tank down here.
Don't Drop:
After checking out this thing's base stats, I don't think there's any way to balance this for NU when taking into consideration its access to Dragon Dance. Whisdur has a worse offensive typing, roughly the same Attack, and much worse speed, and it's already a great mon in the tier. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with don't drop on this one (Minimie hype is over though, so go ahead and drop this to RU).
Oh hell nah. This shit is way too much for NU. I don't even want to entertain the concept of PHeal at this point in the meta, let alone a bulky PHeal mon with access to Spore. Bulk nerfs could literally only be -5 HP anyway, so there really isn't much you could do to salvage this mon without completely gutting it.
Nah this is goated in RU (Tapler told me so).
It's just too fat. There isn't enough that can be done to its bulk or offenses to make it fair, and I'd rather not have a mon with this level of bulk in the meta at such an early stage.
And finally, in a tier of its own:
sigh.....
not this thing again
Alright, there's a lot to unpack here, so let's get started. First, I'd like to go over a large group, those being
THE ROCKS-WEAKS (
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The last thing you'd want in your Regenerator pivot is a weakness to Stealth Rock with an inability to hold an item, but that might be exactly what you're getting. All of these HATE the fact that rocks exist, as any defensive shenanigans they could get up to (mainly Fire; Bug and Ice weren't doing any of that anyway) are hindered so greatly by the fact that they're forced to take 25% chip on like, half of the turns they come in. My only worry is Flying seems like too potent an offensive threat with SD + Flame Charge + Multi-Attack, so I'd rather hold off on that one, but the other three seem like easy drops.
Now for the rest,
Good offensive and defensive typing, great synergy with Flame Charge, possibly has a niche in RU. Overall, seems like too much for NU. Edit: does not have a niche in RU, also everyone and their mother is prepping for Electric/Fire coverage in NU, so seems pretty safe to drop.
Rocks-resistance is huge on a pivot, and again, great offensive synergy with Flame Charge and Multi-Attack. Another one I'd rather pass over for now.
Generally great defensive typing with good bulk, Wish, and Regen. Offensively is walled by Fires so I'm more inclined to add this one, but honestly a lot of these just seem like too much for the current meta.
NormalVino gets the immense distinction of being able to hold an item. This, however, does not save it from mediocrity. Band is pretty threatening maybe, LO is cool for SD sets, and HDB are nice on a pivot, but overall doesn't seem particularly dangerous.
In a similar spot to Grass. Poison/Fire is much more solid offensive coverage though, so I'm more inclined to pass on this one.
Let's face it, Psychic is not a good type. Reliable physical STAB is cool, and Psychic/Fire is pretty nice coverage so I could see offensive sets popping off, but defensive sets being weak to U-Turn and Knock Off (even if unboosted) is a major buzzkill, so I'm fine with this one.
LOL. SD sets are actually pretty scary but besides that this thing is a joke.
Overall, I think I'd be fine with Bug, Electric, Fire, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock, and tentatively Grass Silvino dropping. Also Mega is a generic fatmon for stall. Seems a bit too fat for right now, but drop it if you want.