CAP 3 CAP 3 - Part 10.5 (Movepool poll)

[Pombo]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Urza]

have fun counting this...these votes are really all over the page...

 

[Vandom]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Jace the Mind Sculptor]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?

None.

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?

.Brick Break

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?

-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?

Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??

-Yes, Synthesis


6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?

Zap Cannon
Leaf Storm

 

[1059860]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[JimBob]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
none

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
neither

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Leaf Storm

 

[Mekkah]

No. He's far too solid as it is, we don't want him to become a mix wall.

Yes, "we do". His defenses were voted to be balanced. I think you mean that the idea wasn't to make him overly defensive.

 

[User 12783]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest?
-No

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Charge Beam
Leaf Storm

 

[MegaBuddha]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide
Neither

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Toothache]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
None

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun (as egg move)

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Leaf Storm

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

BTW this guy shouldn't get U-Turn. I know it's a bit late to say, but think about it, only pokes with wings or with a high speed stat get U-Turn.

Okay removing. Also for all you people who are doing this within the votes like these:

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
Yes, but only if it doesn't get an attack up move stronger than Howl

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break But only if it doesn't get SD or DD.

I don't remember those kind of specifics being options within the poll.

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
Yes, (not needed part of the vote)but with Wood Hammer as an egg move (inherited from Torterra). That way, it's illegal with Dragon Dance, which helps balance a DD set better.(not need part of the vote)

That's a yes, okay yes. That all you really had to say =/

 

[FMC20]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

Not game breaking at all.


2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

I prefer rock slide purely for flavor reasons. Since when did a creature with no hands gain the ability to punch/chop things?


3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

I like the physical set.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen
None of the above

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

Seriously people.

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Karrot]

Is it too late to propose Lava Plume to be thrown into the move list? There was little argument against Lava Plume, so I think it should be included.

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémo get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance
None

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide
Neither

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves (In my opinion, prohibit Wood Hammer + Dragon Dance if it gets it)
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun.
-No.

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

To GT: I don't see anything wrong with adding little notes of your reasoning behind your choices, as long as it isn't bolded with your option.

Also, how exactly is this poll going to decide which moves should or should not be included (Pertaining to questions 1 and 6)? For example, in question 6, if you have 20 votes for Zap Cannon, 15 for Charge Beam, 15 for Ancient Power, and 23 for Leaf Storm, how are you going to decide which gets included or not?

 

[Mekkah]

Is it too late to propose Lava Plume to be thrown into the move list? There was little argument against Lava Plume, so I think it should be included.

There is always spillover, which seems to be needed because a lot of people seem to want more options in this poll than there were in the first place.

imo if you try to go "yes, but only if..." then your whole vote should be null. topic leader is a hard job, tallying these votes is a pain as it is, don't make it any harder with your random conditions.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

There is always spillover, which seems to be needed because a lot of people seem to want more options in this poll than there were in the first place.

What? How many options were there? I thought I covered every one of them.

Is it too late to propose Lava Plume to be thrown into the move list? There was little argument against Lava Plume, so I think it should be included.

Like what Mekkah, there's alway a spillover poll. I could add in this poll now thought I don't know where to place.

Also, how exactly is this poll going to decide which moves should or should not be included (Pertaining to questions 1 and 6)? For example, in question 6, if you have 20 votes for Zap Cannon, 15 for Charge Beam, 15 for Ancient Power, and 23 for Leaf Storm, how are you going to decide which gets included or not?

The same way Hyra did it I guess :P

 

[TerrickTerran]

Let's see

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance
None

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[firewater]

here we go-

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

This thing is slow, it needs no speed really

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

Neither are that good, but BB is better

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

a fiery tree, launching lightning.... meh, not Zap Cannon though

 

[Dane]

I don't remember those kind of specifics being options within the poll.

Well, they weren't. I don't mind Flare Blitz and Wood Hammer being on the same set, but not with anything stronger than Howl as an attack up move. Hence my vote.

In other words, if it can get Flare Blitz/Wood Hammer/[Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, or Curse] on the same set, then it's too strong. I'm not going to give a flat out "yes" or a flat out "no", when it's a simple clause based on another vote.

The same way Hyra did it I guess :P

I'd assume that if something isn't voted for, it's counted as a No vote. So basically GT will need to get the total number of people voting and do a little algebra. =P

 

[Luck]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Dragon Dance
2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
None
3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun


6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
None

Dragon Dance if it is broken i will lead the charge for its removal but I really want to see if the theorymon is right in this case.Theorymon is wrong sometimes

 

[AJC]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

only ones i like on this list

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Rock slide
brick break

don't care what one gets thru both are rather meh to me.

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?

yes but make it illegal to have both with dragon dance it it gets DD.


4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Light Screen and/or Reflect

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun


6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Charge Beam
Ancientpower

 

[Topofira]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Tsukikage]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

Dragon Dance is fine, but Swords Dance stands out as a no for me. Also, no defense raising stat-ups. I already don't like Revenankh.



2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

No Rock moves please.


3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

I see no problem with getting both.


4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

Stun Spore is fine, and I'd be fine with Reflect/Light Screen as well, I just don't like it.


5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

Again, I'd be fine with it getting it, I just don't like it.


6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

Charge Beam and Ancient Power make it too pwerful IMO. Zap Cannon has crap accuracy and Leaf Storm is a Grass-type move.

 

[Darth Meanie]

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg move.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

I really love all the options this guy has, and I think people are really overreacting about somethings, especially charge beam. It is LESS powerful than Hidden Power, and has a chance of raising SpA 1 stage. It is viable, but not at all worrisome. I'd be more worried switching in a Gyarados on this guy if I thought he had hidden power elec than if he had charge beam personally.

 

[Time Mage]

Argh, not having much free time lately, so I'll just vote without posting the reasons, sorry.

1. Which, if any, of these Physical stat buffs should our Pokémon get?
Bulk Up
Curse
Swords Dance
Dragon Dance

- None of them.

2. Which of these two Physical attacks should this Pokémon get?
Brick Break
Rock Slide

- As long as it doesn't get any physical stat buff.

3. Should this Pokémon be able to get both Wood Hammer and Flare Blitz at the same time?
-Yes, as Heart Scale moves
-No, Make both of them egg moves.

4. Which, if any, of these Utilities moves should this Pokémon get?
Stun Spore
Reflect/Light Screen

5. Should this Pokémon get Recovery outside of Rest??
-Yes, Synthesis/Morning Sun
-No,

6. Which, if any, of these Special Attacks should this Pokémon get?
Zap Cannon
Charge Beam
Ancientpower
Leaf Storm

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Well, they weren't. I don't mind Flare Blitz and Wood Hammer being on the same set, but not with anything stronger than Howl as an attack up move. Hence my vote.

In other words, if it can get Flare Blitz/Wood Hammer/[Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, or Curse] on the same set, then it's too strong. I'm not going to give a flat out "yes" or a flat out "no", when it's a simple clause based on another vote.

But some of these option don't really have a middleground where simple condition(s) like your could be accepted. Most of these question are simple "choose the option(s) you like" or "simple yes or no answer". Adding something like "yes but if only..." into your vote make it harder for whoever is counting these votes.....

....although since I'm the one that have to count all these votes, I could really just count your vote and others that do the same thing you did as a simple "yes/no" answer, which is really just that.

I'd assume that if something isn't voted for, it's counted as a No vote. So basically GT will need to get the total number of people voting and do a little algebra. =P

So that's how he did it. I first thought he took the highest number from each category and claimed those were the winner xD