Pokemon Name: Tangrowth-Roses
Tangrowth already learns Sludge BombNew Moves: Sludge Bomb
Pokemon Name: Tangrowth-Roses
Tangrowth already learns Sludge BombNew Moves: Sludge Bomb
Volcarona + Vikavolt
Pokemon Name: Volcarona-Voltage
Egg Group: Bug
Stats: 85/60/78/135/105/100
Type: Fire/Electric
Abilities: Flame Body/Levitate (Swarm)
New Moves: Volt Switch, Discharge, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Thunder Wave
Dex Entry: The flapping of its wings create sparks and friction, from which it can produce electric and heat based discharges.
Competitive Use: Volc throws away its bug typing for a far superior floating electric typing, 13 more defense and electric coverage. With a weakness count of 2, a resistance count of 8, including coveted boltbeam resistance and ground and grounded hazard immunity gives Volcarona a lot more effective durability. It still needs Hidden Power to get through certain walls types effectively, such as dragon, who resists its STABs. Some may still be able to fly above the HP Ground it might still carry for Heatran. As with Gyarados, dunno how good it is, just that it definitely shows that some of those 'niched' NU and below mons have unique features that need to get explored.
All of these concern me. Scolipede-Warrior is the most blatant one IMO. Celesteela is far from a check with Swords Dance and nothing to hit it solidly with aside from maybe Flamethrower, and that attack stat with Water/Bug/Ground coverage devastates just about everything aside from the rare Unaware Clefable. Meanwhile, Mamoswine is slower than other Protean users, but who cares when you got 130 Attack and STAB on everything, including rudementaery Ghost/Fighting coverage and Sucker Punch? Finally, my main concern with your Sylveon is not the attacking side (although that could be devastating as well) but mainly its incredible potential as a WishPasser alongside that power. Scolipede and Mamo are banned while I'm open to deliberation on Sylveon.Base >
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Pokémon Name: Scolipede-Warrior
Egg Group: Bug
Stats: 60/113/89/55/69/112 (498 BST | Averaged Attack)
Typing: Bug / Water
New Moves: First Impression, Liquidation, U-Turn, Leech Life, Aqua Jet
Abilities: Poison Point / Emergency Exit | Speed Boost
Dex Entry: Warrior Scolipede are capable of piercing thorough solid woods, making them dangerous to anyone who trespass their territory.
Competitive Potentials: With access of Speed Boost, dual Priority STAB and improved Attack, Warrior Scolipede isn't going to be someone who should be underestimated. Speed Boost allows for snowballing and makes it nearly impossible to outspeed, and makes it an imposing revenge killer in addition to access of First Impression or Aqua Jet. Leech Life can be used to sustain itself, and Earthquake can be use as a coverage move against most Electric-type and enemy Poison-type like Toxapex. U-Turn can be used for momentum.
Is It Overpowered?: It's bulk remain poor compared to a great amount of OU-viable Pokemon, especially on the Special side. It's Attack, while improved, is still not extraordinary and may need to set up to properly sweep. Bug / Water STAB combo can be blocked by Zapdos, Skarmory, Celesteela, Toxapex (if Warrior Scolipede doesn't run Earthquake), Unaware Clefable (if not running Poison-type coverage or hope for Defense drop from Liquidation) and Magnezone (if, again, Warrior Scolipede doesn't run Earthquake). It also compete with Greninja who have a more powerful Ash-Greninja form and better starting speed, and Mega Swampert who have better durability, but Warrior Scolipede at least become able to outspeed practically everything once it remains alive long enough.
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Pokémon Name: Mamoswine-Cameo
Egg Group: Field
Stats: 110/130/80/70/90/80 (560 BST | Averaged Sp. Defense)
Typing: Ice / Normal
New Moves: Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Knock Off, Fake Out, Drain Punch
Abilities: Oblivious / Protean | Thick Fat
Dex Entry: Despite it's large size, Cameo Mamoswine can easily hide on any spot by adapting the color and designs of the environment. The problem is that the blue marking on its face doesn't do the camouflage.
Competitive Potentials: Protean Wallbreaker or Revenge Killer. Fake Out + Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch/Ice Shard can be a deadly Priority for revenge killing combo, and it have other tools that are perpetually STAB-boosted as well, such as Drain Punch, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Superpower, Avalanche, Iron Head and Double-Edge, making its potential coverage a bit unpredictable. Just the fact that it can learn four Priority moves means that you won't know what will it use (though Fake Out is generally guaranteed) until it uses them, giving pressure to almost every offensive Pokemon (aside of Tapu Lele if it switches in. See below for obvious reason).
Is It Overpowered?: Psychic Terrain can screw up with its Priority moves, and while its bulk allows it to take hits from neutral hits, a misprediction can result a potentially embarrassing loss for Cameo Mamoswine (i.e. using Shadow Sneak on a Fighting-type who is going to use Knock Off). 80 Speed isn't too impressive (but not too slow either), meaning that even with Priority moves, it might be revenge killed just as easily (though Sucker Punch means that Mega Alakazam must fight it cautiously unless if it have Psychic Terrain support). It also competes with fellow Protean users, Greninja and Camo Kingdra, by virtue of being faster, but Cameo Mamoswine do have better starting power, bulk and the cheeky Fake Out + other Priority combo.
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Pokémon Name: Sylveon-Protector
Egg Group: Field
Stats: 95/65/98/110/130/60 (558 BST | Averaged Defense)
Typing: Fairy / Ground
New Moves: Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Earth Power, Stealth Rock
Abilities: Solid Rock | Pixilate
Dex Entry: The heavy armor of Protector Sylveon allows it to protect its Trainer or other Pokemon it really cares from any threat. It also use its fairy power to keep itself afloat over the water.
Competitive Potentials: Having a potentially potent Fairy / Ground typing, Protector Sylveon can bring terror to Fighting-types, Dragon-types and Electric-types alike. With a Calm Mind set up, its Pixilate Hyper Voice or Moonblast and Earth Power, alongside either Flamethrower, Ice Beam or Thunderbolt, it is able to hit a lot of Pokemon in the OU tier, and a Calm Mind boosted Special Defense allows it to tank special moves, even Super Effective moves if running Solid Rock. The improved Defense for Protector Sylveon allows it to tank Physical Moves a little better. It is also one of those Stealth Rock setters.
Is It Overpowered?: Even with an improved Defense, dedicated wallbreakers with Super Effective moves or boosted Attack can quickly take it down, especially Kartana and Tapu Bulu with their Grass-type STAB (though neither will never want to switch-in into a Flamethrower). It also suffer from 4MSS, which means that there is a chance that one special wall will stop it, and Chansey is always an option to wear it down. It also competes with several other Special Attacking Fairy-types, most notably Tapu Lele for being able to set up Psychic Terrain and better starting Special Attack, but Protector Sylveon compensates with being able to eliminate most Poison-types and have better bulk.
Look, I'm not really prepared for a slate like this. I'll keep Protector Sylveon unless others would want this banned as well, while I replace the other two by two new submissions I aim to be much more reasonable.Definitely way too op. Volcarona is already amazing and then you give it a ground immunity and a better secondary STAB? Not letting it through, is banned, sorry.
All of these concern me. Scolipede-Warrior is the most blatant one IMO. Celesteela is far from a check with Swords Dance and nothing to hit it solidly with aside from maybe Flamethrower, and that attack stat with Water/Bug/Ground coverage devastates just about everything aside from the rare Unaware Clefable. Meanwhile, Mamoswine is slower than other Protean users, but who cares when you got 130 Attack and STAB on everything, including rudementaery Ghost/Fighting coverage and Sucker Punch? Finally, my main concern with your Sylveon is not the attacking side (although that could be devastating as well) but mainly its incredible potential as a WishPasser alongside that power. Scolipede and Mamo are banned while I'm open to deliberation on Sylveon.
Keep it up guys! Subs will end on Thursday.
Wait, of course. That being said, you can also chain a Fake Out + Shadow Sneak to compensate Shadow Sneak's weak Base Power.I cant see anything wrong with Sylveon Protector. Yh it can pass Wish. Nice for Stall ig? Wish isnt something that you just slap on any team because it can be very momentum draining. I'd probably just say it doesnt need BoltBeam + Flamethrower.
And Mamoswine? Its broken how? You mention Ghost/Fighting coverage, but this Ghost STAB is SHADOW SNEAK. Combined with its slow speed against offense, being weak to hazards and inability to boost, I'd say Mamoswine is more than managable
I cant see anything wrong with Sylveon Protector. Yh it can pass Wish. Nice for Stall ig? Wish isnt something that you just slap on any team because it can be very momentum draining. I'd probably just say it doesnt need BoltBeam + Flamethrower.
And Mamoswine? Its broken how? You mention Ghost/Fighting coverage, but this Ghost STAB is SHADOW SNEAK. Combined with its slow speed against offense, being weak to hazards and inability to boost, I'd say Mamoswine is more than managable
I guess you're right, perhaps I panicked a bit too much. I'll allow the Mamo and the Sylveon without Thunderbolt. Scolipede's still banne thoWait, of course. That being said, you can also chain a Fake Out + Shadow Sneak to compensate Shadow Sneak's weak Base Power.
I would consider removing Thunderbolt and replace it with Earthquake (which is just for flavor) for Protector Sylveon, allowing Water-types (except Toxapex does to it's Poison-typing) so take on it much more safely. This also allows Flying-type Pokemon not weak to Ice Beam such as Mega Charizard Y to counter it more reliably. Would that be enough?
That means I only to find one replacement, though I would say it won't be as easy as it was in prior slates. Thanks for understanding, but I do apologize for causing some initial panic.I guess you're right, perhaps I panicked a bit too much. I'll allow the Mamo and the Sylveon without Thunderbolt. Scolipede's still banne tho
i'm sorry what? first of that icon's raticate, second off the underlined stat is decidedly not defense, third off there are only 5 stats there![]()
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Pokemon Name: Rhyperior-Little (Rhyperior + Rattata-Alola)
Egg Group: Field
Stats: 115 / 140 / 130 / 60 / 113 / (505 BST, Defense stats averaged)
Sorry I was still editing :/i'm sorry what? first of that icon's raticate, second off the underlined stat is decidedly not defense, third off there are only 5 stats there
it receives the boost anywayWhy have lightning rod on... any set set if it’s water/ground?
If I haven't commented on your submission, it's probably fine.How are mine?
Keep it up guys! Subs will end on Thursday.
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Pokémon Name: Sylveon-Protector
Egg Group: Field
Stats: 95/65/98/110/130/60 (558 BST | Averaged Defense)
Typing: Fairy / Ground
New Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Earthquake, Earth Power, Stealth Rock
Abilities: Solid Rock | Pixilate
Dex Entry: The heavy armor of Protector Sylveon allows it to protect its Trainer or other Pokemon it really cares from any threat. It also use its fairy power to keep itself afloat over the water.
Competitive Potentials: Having a potentially potent Fairy / Ground typing, Protector Sylveon can bring terror to Fighting-types, Dragon-types and Electric-types alike. With a Calm Mind set up, its Pixilate Hyper Voice or Moonblast and Earth Power, alongside either Flamethrower or Thunderbolt, it is able to hit a lot of Pokemon in the OU tier, and a Calm Mind boosted Special Defense allows it to tank special moves, even Super Effective moves if running Solid Rock. The improved Defense for Protector Sylveon allows it to tank Physical Moves a little better. It is also one of those Stealth Rock setters.
Is It Overpowered?: Even with an improved Defense, dedicated wallbreakers with Super Effective moves or boosted Attack can quickly take it down, especially Kartana and Tapu Bulu with their Grass-type STAB (though neither will never want to switch-in into a Flamethrower). It also suffer from 4MSS, which means that there is a chance that one special wall will stop it, and Chansey is always an option to wear it down. It also competes with several other Special Attacking Fairy-types, most notably Tapu Lele for being able to set up Psychic Terrain and better starting Special Attack, but Protector Sylveon compensates with being able to eliminate most Poison-types and have better bulk. Lack of Thunderbolt means that multiple Water-type offensive Pokémon and Flying-type Pokemon not weak to Ice Beam can counter it very reliably.
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Pokemon Name: Skarmory-Primordial
Egg Group: Flying
Stats: 65 / 110 / 140 / 40 / 70 / 70 | BST: 495
Type: Steel / Flying
New Moves: Earthquake, Knock Off, U-Turn, Stone Edge, Quick Attack
Abilities: Defeatist | Sturdy | Weak Armor (HA)
Dex Entry: While this Skarmory variant is less-than-stellar at flying, its powerful claws and hard body are beyond peak performance.
Competitive Use: Skarmory takes revenge for being a sitting duck, and can now actually deal back damage with its pretty good coverage and 110 Attack, amped up with a Swords Dance. Its quite easy to do thanks to its typing and 140 Defense, but its Speed is quite mediocre at best, even after a Agility. Defensively, it has a switching move, but other than that, its about the same.
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Pokemon Name: Infernape-Bugout
Egg Group: Human-like (seriously)
Stats: 76/104/71/104/78/108 (Special Defense stats averaged)
Type: Fire/Bug
New Moves: Bug Buzz, Play Rough, Ice Punch, Thunderbolt, Giga Drain
Abilities: Blaze/Tinted Lens (Iron Fist)
Dex Entry: Fluttering about, this monkey takes to the trees and feasts like a bug. It can use its lenses to find precious tree dwelling morsels.
Competitive Use: Fire/Bug is a balancing act to keep it from being too easy to bring in. Still, Tinted Lens is the real hero here and is why Volbeat's Tail Glow isn't being considered instead, since it doesn't get that ability and Prankster doesn't really help you kill as well as Tinted Lens would.