National Dex Ubers Zacian-C

[Bella]

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Play Rough / Behemoth Blade
move 3: Close Combat / Tera Blast / Play Rough
move 4: Wild Charge
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Fighting / Ground

[SET COMMENTS]

• Zacian-C's sky-high Attack and Speed stats, solid coverage, and great defensive typing make it one of the most threatening and metagame-warping Pokemon in National Dex Ubers.
• Zacian-C's choice of STAB move is flexible. Play Rough allows it to hit Zygarde-C, Arceus-Dark, and Mega Salamence; Behemoth Blade can be opted for instead, hitting opposing Fairy-types like Arceus-Fairy while being an overall more consistent STAB option.
• Zacian-C's third moveslot is also flexible; Close Combat provides coverage against Pokemon like Necrozma-DM and Ferrothorn and should be ran with Tera Fighting to let Zacian-C hit important damage thresholds like OHKOing Primal Groudon after a Swords Dance.
• Tera Blast can be opted for instead with Tera Ground , hitting the aforementioned Steel-types as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon and Zekrom.
• Finally, Play Rough can be run to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move alongside Behemoth Blade.
• Wild Charge gives Zacian-C coverage against Ho-Oh, which otherwise completely walls it, as well as Yveltal and Primal Kyogre.
• Zacian-C fits best on more offensive teams looking for a solid wallbreaker and setup sweeper, also operating as a light check to Pokemon like Extreme Killer Arceus and Yveltal thanks to its naturally great typing. It particularly excels in the hyper offense mirror matchup thanks to its typing and speed tier.
• Zacian-C usually struggles against physically defensive walls that resist its STAB moves like Ho-Oh, Primal Groudon, and Necrozma-DM, so Pokemon like Primal Kyogre and Arceus-Ground that can directly threaten these walls are helpful to have.
• Defog support from the likes of Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Fairy, and Yveltal can help with Zacian-C's weakness to entry hazards.
• Zacian-C oftentimes needs Terastallization to beat its checks, which should be kept in mind. It also needs to pick its targets carefully, as Intrepid Sword only activates once per game.

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[Weirdhamster]

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Play Rough / Behemoth Blade
move 3: Close Combat / Tera Blast / Play Rough
move 4: Wild Charge
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Steel / Fighting / Ground

[SET COMMENTS]

• Zacian-C's sky high Attack and Speed stats, solid coverage, and great defensive typing makes it one of the most threatening and metagame-warping Pokemon in National Dex Ubers.
• Zacian-C's choice of STAB move is flexible, Play Rough allows it to hit Zygarde-C, Arceus-Dark, and Mega Salamence although Behemoth Blade can be opted for instead, hitting opposing Fairy-types like Arceus-Fairy and Xernas. I would also mention Behemoth Blade being an overall more consistent stab option outside specific targets.
• Zacian-C's third moveslot is also flexible; Close Combat provides coverage into Pokemon llike like Necrozma-DM and Magearna. Tera Blast can be opted for with Tera Ground instead, hitting the beforementioned Steel-types as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon, Toxapex, and Zekrom. Finally, Play Rough can be ran to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with Behemoth Blade. I would rather give a mention to Close Combat not needing tera to hit Necrozma-DM and Primal Groudon, comparing them in that sense. Magearna you already hit with behemoth blade, and Toxapex is way too rare.
• Wild Charge gives Zacian-C coverage into Ho-Oh, who otherwise completely counters it, as well as Yveltal and Primal Kyogre.
• Zacian-C most commonly runs Tera Steel, which should be used with Behemoth Blade, to boost the power of the move. Zacian basically never runs tera steel, most run tera ground or fighting. (I’m personally not sure why it’s included, let alone the first option in the sample set) Alternatively, Tera Fighting with Close Combat to boost the move or Tera Ground with Tera Blast to provide coverage and give Zacian-C an immunity to Thunder Wave are both viable options. Zacian is rarely getting hit by thunder wave, probably not worth keeping.
• Zacian-C fits best on more offensive teams looking for a solid wallbreaker and setup sweeper.
• Zacian-C oftentimes struggles against physically defensive walls who resist its STABs like Ho-Oh and Toxapex, so Pokemon like Primal Kyogre or Deoxys-A who can directly threaten these walls are helpful to have. Mentioning something like Arceus-Ground, Primal Groudon, or Necrozma-DM would probably be more relevant examples rather than Toxapex.

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My first qc check. Should be QC 1/2 when implemented

 

[Bella]

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My first qc check. Should be QC 1/2 when implemented

did!

 

[entrocefalo]

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Play Rough / Behemoth Blade
move 3: Close Combat / Tera Blast / Play Rough
move 4: Wild Charge
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Steel / Fighting / Ground

[SET COMMENTS]

• Zacian-C's sky high Attack and Speed stats, solid coverage, and great defensive typing makes it one of the most threatening and metagame-warping Pokemon in National Dex Ubers.
• Zacian-C's choice of STAB move is flexible, Play Rough allows it to hit Zygarde-C, Arceus-Dark, and Mega Salamence although . Behemoth Blade can be opted for instead, hitting opposing Fairy-types like Arceus-Fairy and Xernas and being an overall more consistent STAB option.
  
• Zacian-C's third moveslot is also flexible; Close Combat provides coverage into Pokemon like Necrozma-DM. Tera Blast can be opted for with Tera Ground instead, hitting the beforementioned Steel-types (you mentioned only one steel type which is necro dusk) as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon and Zekrom. Finally, Play Rough can be ran run to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with Behemoth Blade. (you are not adding much information here maybe say for the previously stated reason?)
  
• Wild Charge gives Zacian-C coverage into Ho-Oh, who otherwise completelycounters walls it, as well as Yveltal and Primal Kyogre.
• Tera Fighting can be ran with close Close Combat to boost the move (can you provide more info? like killing pdon at +3 after sr), but Tera Ground with Tera Blast to provide coverage can be ran instead. (you already talked about tera blast, move the tera fight part before the tera blast ground one )
  
• Zacian-C fits best on more offensive teams looking for a solid wallbreaker and setup sweeper. (mention that zacian can be usefull as a light check to treats such as ekiller and yveltal thanks to its natural typing, this aspect is important when using offense/ho teams where keeping momentum is key. Also it is a good tool to have in the ho mirror again thanks to its typing and speed)
  
• Zacian-C oftentimes / usually struggles against physically defensive walls who resist its STABs like Ho-Oh and Necrozma-DM, so Pokemon like Primal Kyogre or Deoxys-A who can directly threaten these walls are helpful to have. (include reference to Arceus-Ground and Primal Groudon too and remove deoxys A)
  I would also mention defog partner since zacian is weak to hazards, finally mention that Zacian needs tera to overcome some of its checks and that its ability only activates once per game.
  
  

tag me when everything is implemented

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[Bella]

• Finally, Play Rough can be ran run to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with Behemoth Blade. (you are not adding much information here maybe say for the previously stated reason?)
• but Tera Ground with Tera Blast to provide coverage can be ran instead. (you already talked about tera blast, move the tera fight part before the tera blast ground one )

For the first bullet, I dont think theres a reason to repeat the play rough section again since its just repeating info. So i didnt add it.
For the second bullet, The wording here was a bit awkward and i did not exactly got what you meant because tera fighting is mentioned before tera ground...? So i didnt add this as well.
The rest is implemented

 

[entrocefalo]

Bella I mean since close combat comes first together with tera fight, I would first mention it and then tera blast+ ground, does it make sense to you? So that after you talk about the last slot which is wild charge

 

[Bella]

Bella I mean since close combat comes first together with tera fight, I would first mention it and then tera blast+ ground, does it make sense to you? So that after you talk about the last slot which is wild charge
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think i did this right now? GP Team

 

[Zrp200]

Two things, really.

Regarding the QC on this

I'm not QC, but I did have thoughts on these.

Tera Blast can be opted for with Tera Ground instead, hitting the beforementioned Steel-types as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon and Zekrom.

This really understates how pivotal the ability to completely invalidate Primal Groudon and Necrozma-Dusk-Mane as checks is. It's absurd, with the only tradeoff being how tera reliant is (which imo also should have been mentioned).

Finally, Play Rough can be ran to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with Behemoth Blade at the cost of coverage.

I read the chain from earlier, but really there needs to be *some* mention of the tradeoff of running pr in this slot.

Defog support from the likes of Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Fairy, and Yveltal can help against Zacian-C's weakness to entry hazards.

I would also mention defog partner since zacian is weak to hazards

This feels misleading to me, since zacian-c resists Stealth Rock and is immune to Toxic Spikes. I would have suggested specifically singling out Spikes and Sticky Web.

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Play Rough / Behemoth Blade
move 3: Close Combat / Tera Blast / Play Rough
move 4: Wild Charge
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Fighting / Ground

[SET COMMENTS]

• Zacian-C's sky-high Attack and Speed stats, solid coverage, and great defensive typing makes 'make' would be more correct, but this is technically fine it one of the most threatening and metagame-warping Pokemon in National Dex Ubers.
• Zacian-C's choice of STAB move is flexible, (RC): (add colon) Play Rough allows it to hit Zygarde-C, Arceus-Dark, and Mega Salamence. (RP), (AC) but Behemoth Blade can be opted for instead, hitting opposing Fairy-types like Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas and while being an overall more consistent STAB option.
• Zacian-C's third moveslot is also flexible; (remove semicolon): (add colon) a colon is more correct when the following clause explains the preceding Close Combat provides coverage into Pokemon like Necrozma-DM and Ferrothorn and should be ran with Tera Fighting to give Zacian-C important damage thresholds like OHKOing the OHKO on Primal Groudon after a Swords Dance.
• Tera Blast can be opted for with Tera Ground instead, hitting the beforementioned Steel-types as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon and Zekrom.
• Finally, Play Rough can be ran to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with alongside Behemoth Blade.
• Wild Charge gives Zacian-C coverage into Ho-Oh, who which otherwise completely walls it, as well as Yveltal and Primal Kyogre.
• Zacian-C fits best on more offensive teams looking for a solid wallbreaker, (RC) and setup sweeper, and even operating especially given Zacian-C can even operate The last part violates parallelism and seems to me to be a separate thought as a light check to Pokemon like Extreme Killer Arceus and Yveltal thanks to its naturally great typing. Zacian-C particularly excels in the hyper offense mirror matchup thanks to its typing and speed tier.
• Zacian-C usually struggles against physically defensive walls who that resist its STABs like Ho-Oh, Primal Groudon, and Necrozma-DM, so Pokemon like Primal Kyogre and Arceus-Ground, (AC) who which can directly threaten these walls, (AC) are helpful to have.
• Defog support from the likes of Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Fairy, and Yveltal can help against Zacian-C's weakness to entry hazards.
• Zacian-C oftentimes needs Terastallization to beat its checks, which should be kept in mind. It also needs to pick its targets carefully, (AC) as Intrepid Sword only activates once per game.

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[Bobsican]

Please remove the credit to Weirdhamster as he's banned, note that the QC check provided by him is still valid and no further changes are required.


done (entro)

 

[SolarBeam]

1/1, GP Team done

Did my check with Zrp's as a base, so crediting them too. My own additions and removals are lighter blue and red, while my comments are (orange).

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Play Rough / Behemoth Blade
move 3: Close Combat / Tera Blast / Play Rough
move 4: Wild Charge
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Fighting / Ground

[SET COMMENTS]

• Zacian-C's sky-high Attack and Speed stats, solid coverage, and great defensive typing makes make it one of the most threatening and metagame-warping Pokemon in National Dex Ubers.
• Zacian-C's choice of STAB move is flexible. (replaced comma with period) Play Rough allows it to hit Zygarde-C, Arceus-Dark, and Mega Salamence; (replaced comma with semicolon) Behemoth Blade can be opted for instead, hitting opposing Fairy-types like Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas and while being an overall more consistent STAB option.
• Zacian-C's third moveslot is also flexible; Close Combat provides coverage into against Pokemon like Necrozma-DM and Ferrothorn and should be ran with Tera Fighting to give let Zacian-C hit important damage thresholds like OHKOing Primal Groudon after a Swords Dance.
• Tera Blast can be opted for instead with Tera Ground instead, hitting the beforementioned aforementioned Steel-types as well as Pokemon like Primal Groudon and Zekrom.
• Finally, Play Rough can be ran run to give Zacian-C a useful alternative STAB move with alongside Behemoth Blade.
• Wild Charge gives Zacian-C coverage into against Ho-Oh, who which otherwise completely walls it, as well as Yveltal and Primal Kyogre.
• Zacian-C fits best on more offensive teams looking for a solid wallbreaker (RC) and setup sweeper, and even also operating as a light check to Pokemon like Extreme Killer Arceus and Yveltal thanks to its naturally great typing. Zacian-C It particularly excels in the hyper offense mirror matchup thanks to its typing and speed tier.
• Zacian-C usually struggles against physically defensive walls who that resist its STABs STAB moves like Ho-Oh, Primal Groudon, and Necrozma-DM, so Pokemon like Primal Kyogre and Arceus-Ground who that can directly threaten these walls are helpful to have.
• Defog support from the likes of Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Fairy, and Yveltal can help against with (against gives a weird implication) Zacian-C's weakness to entry hazards.
• Zacian-C oftentimes needs Terastallization to beat its checks, which should be kept in mind. It also needs to pick its targets carefully, (AC) as Intrepid Sword only activates once per game.

[SET CREDITS]
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[Sulo]

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