Approved by The Eevee General | Original OM thread by Adrian Marin | Revived by Snaquaza
Pokemon is centered around fainting the opponent's Pokemon. That's not all, you have to keep your own alive to, as if you can't you lose anyway as you won't be able to continue. There are three ways to prevent this from happening: countering, checking and revenge killing.
Procedure
Every week, I'll submit two sets in one metagame. You guys will have to post a check or a counter to these sets. You'll have a week to post these, as this is the Victim of the Week. When the week is over I'll choose the two best counters and the two best checks for each set. Then the process will restart, with a new metagame and two new sets. The best counters and sets will be added to the Hall of Fame.
When you submit a check or a counter, you have to post the set like sets on PS. You can include a picture of the Pokemon if you want. Also include at least three lines of explanation whether this is a check or counter, why it is a check or a counter and what it does in general. You can't reserve checks or counters, please write them up immediately or hope it'll still be available. If this doesn't happen it could prevent others from taking them, which would ultimately not make a change, but it would clutter up the thread and possibly someone wanted it but couldn't as you reserved, but you didn't do it at all, so a good counter wouldn't get mentioned.
Rules
1. When nominating your check/counter please follow the provided format:
2. Write a minimum of 3 sentences for each set
3. Follow the definitions for checks, by Aragorn the King , and counters, by MattL!
4. When giving checks, follow the advice of alexwolf:
6. Have fun!
7. Don't let the thread die.
Infernape and Alakazam!
Infernape @ Focus Sash
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 200 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Fake Out
- Quick Guard
Alakazam-Mega @ Alakazite
Ability: Inner Focus -> Trace
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Focus Blast
- Encore
These two Pokemon together are a large threat. They have tons of good moves, including Quick Guard, Fake Out and Encore. Additionally they're both speedy and decently powerful and attack on different spectra. What can counter these two?
PLEASE FOLLOW THE PROVIDED FORMAT AND MENTION WHETHER YOUR SET IS A CHECK OR A COUNTER IN YOUR SUBMISSIONS!
Victim of the Week
Om Edition
Pokemon is centered around fainting the opponent's Pokemon. That's not all, you have to keep your own alive to, as if you can't you lose anyway as you won't be able to continue. There are three ways to prevent this from happening: countering, checking and revenge killing.
- Countering is being able to switch in on any move and still being able to beat the opposing Pokemon, without including hax. Your Pokemon can however, be a less reliable counter because it needs to hit a 80% move to counter it and will only get once chance. You can also become a weaker counter if you have no recovery or are easy to wear down, as you'll only be able to counter it once, or not at all.
- Checking is being able to switch in on a move, but not on all and being able to beat the Pokemon afterwards. This will cause you to be able to win with a little prediction. The easier you can switch in, the better check you are (Aka please don't submit Revenge Killers that can check the Pokemon because they can switch in on a Status Move and then outspeed and KO, though they are technically checks, they're unreliable and will rarely be chosen for the Hall of Fame).
- Revenge Killing is that you're not able to switch in on the opposing Pokemon, but can revenge kill it after a free switch.
Procedure
Every week, I'll submit two sets in one metagame. You guys will have to post a check or a counter to these sets. You'll have a week to post these, as this is the Victim of the Week. When the week is over I'll choose the two best counters and the two best checks for each set. Then the process will restart, with a new metagame and two new sets. The best counters and sets will be added to the Hall of Fame.
When you submit a check or a counter, you have to post the set like sets on PS. You can include a picture of the Pokemon if you want. Also include at least three lines of explanation whether this is a check or counter, why it is a check or a counter and what it does in general. You can't reserve checks or counters, please write them up immediately or hope it'll still be available. If this doesn't happen it could prevent others from taking them, which would ultimately not make a change, but it would clutter up the thread and possibly someone wanted it but couldn't as you reserved, but you didn't do it at all, so a good counter wouldn't get mentioned.
Rules
1. When nominating your check/counter please follow the provided format:
Code:
Pokemon @ Item
Ability:
EVs:
Nature
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3. Follow the definitions for checks, by Aragorn the King , and counters, by MattL!
Pokémon A checks Pokémon B if Pokémon A can win every time when switching into at least one of Pokemon B's attacks, without factoring in hax.
Pokémon A counters Pokémon B if Pokémon A can manually switch into Pokémon B and still win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.
5. Help people out if you think they're wrong, but please be nice.We are not looking for revenge killers, but for checks that are able to switch into the Pokemon in question at least once, and of course countersRevenge killers are fairly easy to name; Greninja, Talonflame, Diggersby, Mega Mewtwo-Y, Zangoose, etc can all revenge a handful of Pokemon in their respective Other Metagames. However, it's relatively pointless to name them, as all competitive players should know who can revenge kill what. Instead, this thread should be more geared to Pokemon that can either a) always beat a Pokemon, or b) always beat a Pokemon if they can bait the correct attack.
6. Have fun!
7. Don't let the thread die.
Week 13: 2v2 DoublesArchive
(STABmons) Fake Out Extreme Speed Diggersby
Checks: Gengar The Eevee General | Aerodactyl Ellipse | Sableye bestoise97
Counters: Bronzong (The Eevee General) | Skarmory (asterat) | Landorus-T Vansalon
(AAA) Choice Specs Adaptability Keldeo
Checks: Gengar Hollywood
Counters: Slowking The Eevee General | Doublade unfixable | Shaymin Monte Cristo
(Tier Shift) Choice Band Sawk
Checks: Alomomola The Eevee General | Banette-Mega Darkglade
Counters: Weezing Kit Kasai | Spiritomb asterat | Cresselia insanelegend
(Metagiamate) Choice Band Dragonite
Checks: Aggron-Mega motherlove
Counters:
(PU) Musharna
Checks: Sneasel scorpdestroyer | Haunter TRC
Counters: Bastiodon scorpdestroyer | Krokorok Peef Rimgar | Natu galbia
Infernape and Alakazam!
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 200 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Fake Out
- Quick Guard
Ability: Inner Focus -> Trace
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Focus Blast
- Encore
These two Pokemon together are a large threat. They have tons of good moves, including Quick Guard, Fake Out and Encore. Additionally they're both speedy and decently powerful and attack on different spectra. What can counter these two?
PLEASE FOLLOW THE PROVIDED FORMAT AND MENTION WHETHER YOUR SET IS A CHECK OR A COUNTER IN YOUR SUBMISSIONS!
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