National Dex Venusaur [DONE]

[adem]

[SET]
name: Sun Sweeper
move 1: Growth
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Earth Power
move 4: Weather Ball / Sludge Bomb
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With Chlorophyll doubling its Speed under the sun and making it faster than every unboosted Pokemon in the NatDex metagame, Venusaur is a staple on dedicated sun teams. Thanks to Growth giving a +2 boost under the sun, it allows Venusaur to quickly power up and threaten opposing teams. However, Venusaur struggles to hit everything it wants due to needing both Sludge Bomb for Unaware Clefable and Mega Latios and Weather Ball for Corviknight, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Furthermore, its lack of immediate power, middling bulk, and reliance on the sun make it an inconsistent and one dimensional sweeper. Giga Drain is Venusaur's main STAB option thanks to the recovery letting Venusaur stay healthy in spite of Life Orb chip damage and other hits while also allowing it to beat Chansey and Blissey more comfortably. Earth Power hits one of the biggest threats to sun in Heatran, as well as Galarian Slowking, which otherwise walls Venusaur. Weather Ball is the primary option due to it allowing Venusaur to blast through Steel-types such as Corviknight, Mega Scizor, and Ferrothorn, which otherwise wall it. Sludge Bomb can also be run, as it provides a much stronger STAB option that allows Venusaur to break through Mega Latios and Unaware Clefable, but it is generally an inferior option due to it rendering Venusaur unable to break past certain Steel-types. Poisonium Z can also be used in place of Life Orb to allow Venusaur to break past Mega Latias, which its sun teammates like Blaziken and Victini really appreciate, but this sacrifices the overall power it gets from Life Orb. A Modest nature is used because the extra power is needed to secure crucial KOes on Pokemon like Mega Latios, as well as consistently beating Chansey and Blissey, and the Speed increase from a Timid Nature is generally unneeded and is only useful for Choice Scarf Greninja.

Venusaur only fits on dedicated sun teams due to its reliance on sun to function effectively. Thus, Torkoal is a needed partner alongside Venusaur, as it's able to set sun and provide Stealth Rock to help Venusaur clean better. Furthermore, Torkoal also checks the Steel-types that non-Weather Ball Venusaur is unable to break through. Fire- resistant Pokemon like Hydreigon and Mega Garchomp are also great partners alongside Venusaur due to them checking the likes of Heatran and Volcarona, which are often an issue for sun teams as a whole, and they appreciate Venusaur eliminating Unaware Clefable for them. Pokemon such as Victini, Heatran, and Blaziken are stellar partners for Venusaur, as they can punch holes in the opposing team for Venusaur to clean late game. Lastly, naturally fast Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele and Landorus-T make up for Venusaur's low Speed stat outside of sun, and can also clean weakened teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Solar Beam can be used instead of Giga Drain due to its much higher power; however, it is generally an inferior option, as Venusaur never really needs the extra power, and the extra longevity and usability out of sun with Giga Drain is usually preferred. Furthermore, it also worsens Venusaur's matchup against opposing weather as it doesnt provide immediate pressure, and leaves Venusaur in a bad spot.

Checks and Counters
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**Opposing Weather**: Weather setters such as Pelipper, Alolan Ninetales, and Tyranitar can change the weather, thus removing Venusaur's Speed boost and halving the efficiency of its Growth. This renders Venusaur much less threatening as a result and causes it to get outsped by other weather sweepers such as Mega Swampert, Arctozolt, and Excadrill; however, neither Alolan Ninetales nor Tyranitar want to switch into Venusaur, as they can get KOed or take significant damage, respectively.

**Fire-types and Fire-type Coverage**: Heatran, Volcarona, and Victini can all threaten out Victini with their STAB options, but all of them fear switching into a boosted Earth Power. The likes of Mega Diancie and Clefable can deter Venusaur from freely switching in with their Fire-type coverage; however, they are both forced out by it normally.

**Psychic-types**: Mega Latias counters nearly all Venusaur sets, as Venusaur can't do enough damage even with a Growth Boost; however, it does fold to the rare Poisonium Z sets. Other Psychic-types such as Reuniclus, Mega Latios, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele all force out Venusaur, but they all fold to a boosted Sludge Bomb.

**Ice-types and Ice-type Coverage**: Pokemon such as Weavile and Kyurem are consistently able to force Venusaur out, with the former boasting a strong Ice Shard to revenge kill a weakened Venusaur in sun, and the latter is bulky enough to take a hit. Ice-type coverage options from the likes of Mega Lopunny, Clefable, and Greninja all pressure Venusaur out.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Unburden Hawlucha, Choice Scarf Greninja, as well as priority from the likes of Mega Medicham, Mega Lopunny, and Mega Mawile can all revenge kill Venusaur under the sun; however, they cant switch in.

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[SET]
name: Sun Sweeper
move 1: Growth
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Earth Power
move 4: Sludge Bomb / Weather Ball these should be swapped
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 252 Spa / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Venusaur is one of dedicated Sun team's most valuable assets, with Chlorophyll doubling its speed making it the fastest Pokemon under the sun. this could be worded better, i think something akin to "...its speed, making it faster than every unboosted Pokemon in the tier" Furthermore, access to Growth under the Sun allow it to boost up and break through teams. it makes stellar use of Growth under the sun, thanks to Growth giving a +2 boost under the sun, allowing it to quickly power up and threaten opposing teams. However, Venusaur struggles to hit everything it wants, due to needing both Sludge Bomb for Unware Clefable and Mega Latios, and Weather Ball for Corviknight, Ferrothorn, and Skarmcizory. Furthermore, its lack of immediate power, middling bulk, and reliance on Sun to outspeed a lot of Pokemon it also relies on sun for Weather Ball and Growth powerboosts make it an inconsistent sweeper that only works on one teamstyle. i think making this sentence focus more on its lack of versatility, or moreso how it literally only does one thing lol Giga Drain is Venusaur's main STAB option, thanks to the recovery letting Venusaur stay healthy in spite of Life Orb chip and other hits, while also allowing it to beat Chansey and Blissey more comfortably. and lets it beat the likes of Slowking, Blissey and Chansey, as well as provide some increased longevity due to taking Life Orb chip damage. Earth Power nails i cant believe its been 3 months and you still think "nails" is a valid word to use LMAO Heatran and Slowking Galar, which otherwise wall Venusaur. Sludge Bomb is the primary option due to dedicated Sun Teams generally having the ability to pressure Steel-types bar Heatran, so Sludge Bomb provides a much stronger STAB option that allowe Venusaur to break through Unaware Clefable and Latios as well. Weather Ball can also be run to cover the aforementioned Steel-types, but is generally an inferior option. swap thse moves to accommodate for the move slashes Poisinium Z can also be used in place of Life Orb to allow Venusaur to break past Mega Latias, which its sun teammates like Blaziken and Victini really appreiciate. but this does sacrifice the overall power it gets from of Life Orb. mention why modest is used and how timid is terrible

Venusauce at this point id rather make fun of your grammar errors than correct them only fits on dedicated Sun teams due to its large reliance on Sun to functuon effectively. Thus, Torkoal is a needed partner alongside Venusaur, being able to set Sun as well as provide Stealth Rocks to help Venusaur clean better. Furthermore, Torkoal also checks the Steel-types which Weather Ball-less Venusaur is unable to break through. Fire-type resistant Pokemon like Hydreigon and Mega Garchomp are also great partners alongside Venusaur due to checking the likes of Heatran and Volcarona, which is often an issue for Sun teams as a whole, as well as appreciate Venusaur elminating Unaware Clefable for them. Pokemon such as Victini, Heatran, and Blaziken are stellar partners for Venusaur as they can punch holes the opposing team for Venusaur to clean late game. Lastly, naturally fast Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele and Landorus-T make up for Venusaur's low Speed stat outside of Sun, and can also clean weakened teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Solar Beam can be used instead of Giga Drain due to its much higher power, however it is generally an inferior option as Venusaur never really needs the extra power, and the extra longevity and usability out of Sun with Giga Drain is usually preferred.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Opposing Weather**: Both Pelliper, Alolan Ninetales, and Tyranitar can change the weather, thus removing Venusaur's Speed boost and halving the efficiency of its Growth. This renders Venusaur much less threatening as a result and outsped by other weather sweepers such as Mega Swampert and Excadrill, however neither Alolan Ninetales or Tyranitar want to switch into Venusaur as they can get KOd or take significant damage respectively.

**Fire-types and Fire-type Coverage**: Heatran, Volcarona, and Victini can all threaten out Victini with their STAB options, but all of them fear switching into a boosted Earth Power. The likes of Mega Diancie and Clefable can deter Venusaur from freely switching in with their Fire-type coverage, however they both are forced out by it normally.

**Psychic-types** Mega Latias counters nearly all Venusaur sets, as Venusaur cant do enough damage even with a Growth Boost; However it does fold to the rare Poisinium Z sets. Other Psychic-types such as Reuniclus, Mega Latios, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele all force out Venusaur, but they all fold to a boosted Sludge Bomb.

**Ice-types and Ice-type Coverage** Pokemon such as Weavile and Kyurem are consistently able to force Venusaur out, with the former boasting a strong Ice Shard to revenge a weakened Venusaur in sun, and the latter is bulky enough to take a hit. Ice-type coverage options from the likes of Mega Lopunny, Greninja, and Tapu Fini all pressure Venusaur out. mlop and fini never run ice moves, change it to something else.

id like to see a section on revenge killers being mentioned, twave might also warrant a mention due to how reliant venu is on its speed to function

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- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
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havent checked smthng in forever so im almost sure that even after reading thru twice i missed smthng, gj tho

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[SET]
name: Sun Sweeper
move 1: Growth
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Earth Power
move 4: Weather Ball / Sludge Bomb
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 252 Spa / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Venusaur is one of dedicated Sun team's most valuable assets, with Chlorophyll doubling its speed, making it faster than every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. i would go further and say that it is a mainstay / staple on sun teams because its importance on them cannot be understated it makes stellar use of Growth under the sun, thanks to Growth giving a +2 boost under the sun, allowing it to quickly power up and threaten opposing teams. However, Venusaur struggles to hit everything it wants, due to needing both Sludge Bomb for Unware Clefable and Mega Latios, and Weather Ball for Corviknight, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Furthermore, its lack of immediate power, middling bulk, and reliance on Sun make it an inconsistent and one dimensional sweeper that only works on one teamstyle. "only works on one teamstyle" isn't really a drawback when it comes to weather sweepers, they're meant to be used exclusively on weather since that's where their niche stems from Giga Drain is Venusaur's main STAB option, thanks to the recovery letting Venusaur stay healthy in spite of Life Orb chip and other hits, while also allowing it to beat Chansey and Blissey more comfortably. Earth Power hits Heatran and Slowking Galar, which otherwise wall Venusaur. you should emphasize heatran here because it's a huge threat to sun teams Weather Ball is the primary option due to being able to blast through Steel-types such as Corviknight, Mega Scizor, and Ferrothorn which otherwise wall it. Sludge Bomb can also be run as it provides a much stronger STAB option that allows Venusaur to break through Unaware Clefable and Latios as well, but is generally an inferior option due to not being able to break past certain Steel-types. Poisinium Poisonium Z can also be used in place of Life Orb to allow Venusaur to break past Mega Latias, which its sun teammates like Blaziken and Victini really appreciate, but this does sacrifice the overall power it gets from Life Orb. Modest is used because the extra power is needed to secure crucial KOes on Pokemon like Mega Latios, as well as consistently beat Chansey and Blissey, which Timid struggles to do. also mention how timid doesn't really outspeeds anything important outside of scarf greninja while modest still outspeeds almost all of our viable scarfers

Venusaur only fits on dedicated Sun teams due to its reliance on Sun to function effectively. Thus, Torkoal is a needed partner alongside Venusaur, being able to set Sun as well as provide Stealth Rocks to help Venusaur clean better. Furthermore, Torkoal also checks the Steel-types which Weather Ball-less Venusaur is unable to break through. Fire-type resistant Pokemon like Hydreigon and Mega Garchomp are also great partners alongside Venusaur due to checking the likes of Heatran and Volcarona, which is often an issue for Sun teams as a whole, as well as appreciate Venusaur eliminating Unaware Clefable for them. Pokemon such as Victini, Heatran, and Blaziken are stellar partners for Venusaur as they can punch holes the opposing team for Venusaur to clean late game. Lastly, naturally fast Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele and Landorus-T make up for Venusaur's low Speed stat outside of Sun, and can also clean weakened teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Solar Beam can be used instead of Giga Drain due to its much higher power, however it is generally an inferior option as Venusaur never really needs the extra power, and the extra longevity and usability out of Sun with Giga Drain is usually preferred. i think its worth mentioning how its matchup vs opposing weather becomes even worse with solar beam since it can be locked into solar beam when they switch in, while w giga drain it gives venusaur immediate pressure vs them

Checks and Counters
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**Opposing Weather**: Both Weather setters such as Pelliper, Alolan Ninetales, and Tyranitar can change the weather, thus removing Venusaur's Speed boost and halving the efficiency of its Growth. This renders Venusaur much less threatening as a result and outsped by other weather sweepers such as Mega Swampert, Arctozolt, and Excadrill, however neither Alolan Ninetales or Tyranitar want to switch into Venusaur as they can get KOd or take significant damage respectively.

**Fire-types and Fire-type Coverage**: Heatran, Volcarona, and Victini can all threaten out Victini with their STAB options, but all of them fear switching into a boosted Earth Power. The likes of Mega Diancie and Clefable can deter Venusaur from freely switching in with their Fire-type coverage, however they both are forced out by it normally.

**Psychic-types** Mega Latias counters nearly all Venusaur sets, as Venusaur cant do enough damage even with a Growth Boost; However it does fold to the rare Poisinium Poisonium Z sets. Other Psychic-types such as Reuniclus, Mega Latios, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele all force out Venusaur, but they all fold to a boosted Sludge Bomb.

**Ice-types and Ice-type Coverage** Pokemon such as Weavile and Kyurem are consistently able to force Venusaur out, with the former boasting a strong Ice Shard to revenge a weakened Venusaur in sun, and the latter is bulky enough to take a hit. Ice-type coverage options from the likes of Mega Lopunny, Clefable, and Tapu Fini all pressure Venusaur out. i've never seen a fini use ice beam in my life, i'd change that to something like protean greninja probably

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Unburden Hawlucha, Choice Scarf Greninja, as well as priority from the likes of Mega Medicham, Mega Lopunny, and Mega Mawile can all revenge kill Venusaur under Sun, however they cant switch in.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[pannuracotta, 517892], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

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[SET]
name: Sun Sweeper
move 1: Growth
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Earth Power
move 4: Weather Ball / Sludge Bomb
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpaA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Venusaur is a staple on dedicated Sun teams, with Chlorophyll doubling its speed,
With Chlorophyll doubling its Speed under the sun and making it faster than every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. it makes stellar use of Growth under the sun, tNatDex metagame, Venusaur is a staple on dedicated sun teams. Thanks to Growth giving a +2 boost under the sun, allowing itit allows Venusaur to quickly power up and threaten opposing teams. However, Venusaur struggles to hit everything it wants, due to needing both Sludge Bomb for Unaware Clefable and Mega Latios, and Weather Ball for Corviknight, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Furthermore, its lack of immediate power, middling bulk, and reliance on Sthe sun make it an inconsistent and one-dimensional sweeper. Giga Drain is Venusaur's main STAB option, thanks to the recovery letting Venusaur stay healthy in spite of Life Orb chip damage and other hits, while also allowing it to beat Chansey and Blissey more comfortably. Earth Power hits one of the biggest threats to Sun in Heatran, and Slowking Galar as wellsun in Heatran, as well as Galarian Slowking, which otherwise walls Venusaur. Weather Ball is the primary option due to being ableit allowing Venusaur to blast through Steel-types such as Corviknight, Mega Scizor, and Ferrothorn, which otherwise wall it. Sludge Bomb can also be run, as it provides a much stronger STAB option that allows Venusaur to break through Unaware Clefable and Latios as well, buLatios (should this be mega?) and Unaware Clefable, but it is generally an inferior option due to not being it rendering Venusaur unable to break past certain Steel-types. Poisonium Z can also be used in place of Life Orb to allow Venusaur to break past Mega Latias, which its sun teammates like Blaziken and Victini really appreciate, but this does sacrifices the overall power it gets from Life Orb. A Modest nature is used because the extra power is needed to secure crucial KOes on Pokemon like Mega Latios, as well as consistently beating Chansey and Blissey, and the Speed increase from a Timid nature is generally unneeded, and is only useful for Choice Scarf Greninja.

Venusaur only fits on dedicated Ssun teams due to its reliance on Ssun to function effectively. Thus, Torkoal is a needed partner alongside Venusaur, being able to set Sun as well asas it's able to set sun and provide Stealth Rocks to help Venusaur clean better. Furthermore, Torkoal also checks the Steel-types which Weather Ball-lessthat non-Weather Ball Venusaur is unable to break through. Fire-type resistant Pokemon like Hydreigon and Mega Garchomp are also great partners alongside Venusaur due to them checking the likes of Heatran and Volcarona, which is often an issue for Sun teams as a whole, as well asare often an issue for sun teams as a whole, and they appreciate Venusaur eliminating Unaware Clefable for them. Pokemon such as Victini, Heatran, and Blaziken are stellar partners for Venusaur, as they can punch holes in the opposing team for Venusaur to clean late-game. Lastly, naturally fast Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele and Landorus-T make up for Venusaur's low Speed stat outside of Sun,sun and can also clean weakened teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Solar Beam can be used instead of Giga Drain due to its much higher power, however; however, it is generally an inferior option, as Venusaur never really needs the extra power, and the extra longevity and usability out of Ssun with Giga Drain is usually preferred. Furthermore, it also worsens Venusaur's matchup against opposing weather, as it doesn't provide immediate pressure, and leaves Venusaur in a bad spot.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Opposing Weather**: Weather setters suchnas Pelli as Pelipper, Alolan Ninetales, and Tyranitar can change the weather, thus removing Venusaur's Speed boost and halving the efficiency of its Growth. This renders Venusaur much less threatening as a result and causes it to get outsped by other weather sweepers such as Mega Swampert, Arctozolt, and Excadrill, however; however, neither Alolan Ninetales nor Tyranitar want to switch into Venusaur, as they can get KOed or take significant damage, respectively.

**Fire-types and Fire-type Coverage**: Heatran, Volcarona, and Victini can all threaten out Victini with their STAB options, but all of them fear switching into a boosted Earth Power. The likes of Mega Diancie and Clefable can deter Venusaur from freely switching in with their Fire-type coverage, however they both are; however, they are both forced out by it normally.

**Psychic-types**: Mega Latias counters nearly all Venusaur sets, as Venusaur can't do enough damage, even with a Growth Boost; Howeverhowever, it does fold to the rare Poisonium Z sets. Other Psychic-types such as Reuniclus, Mega Latios, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele all force out Venusaur, but they all fold to a boosted Sludge Bomb.

**Ice-types and Ice-type Coverage**: Pokemon such as Weavile and Kyurem are consistently able to force Venusaur out, with the former boasting a strong Ice Shard to revenge kill a weakened Venusaur in sun, and the latter is bulky enough to take a hit. Ice-type coverage options from the likes of Mega Lopunny, Clefable, and Greninja all pressure Venusaur out.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Unburden Hawlucha, Choice Scarf Greninja, as well as priority from the likes of Mega Medicham, Mega Lopunny, and Mega Mawile can all revenge kill Venusaur under Sun, howeverthe sun; however, they cant switch in.

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