Tournament UPL XI: Commencement Thread

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Managers and retains rankings

Take what I say with a grain of salt, I am merely expressing my opinion and you shouldn't take what I say to heart, it's never that deep.


#1 - Choice Bandits: Highlord + Ayu

They just won the last team tournament and if that is any guide to what their performance looks like, then I think they will do just as good as they did a few months ago, if not better. They have some pretty good retains / self-buys in the form of the best GSC, best DPP and top 3 SV as well. Coincidentally, the managers + retains have a good amount of experience in team tournaments so, I think they will come up with a competent draft plan.


#2 - Dangerous Dracovish: Stone Cold + Leru

Dave has made playoffs 3 years in a row (and won in one occasion), surely that amounts to something and is not a coincidence. That being said, the combination of someone as experienced as Dave and someone as versatile as Leru could lead to very good results. The Goat Heart and vani retains cover a lot of ground as well.


#3 - Alolan Mukkers: Reje + March Fires

This one is relative. While I have been told Reje will not self-buy, if he does this team is dropping to #12. Needless to say, tape has been playing Pokemon for ages and is consistent to this day. Not only that but, I've seen his prep style first hand and it's honestly pretty disgusting, nothing to be trifled with. I've also been told nothing but good things of Reje as a manager so, if he stays there I expect good things from this team. Adding to that, have some good potential retains in the form of Lasen, Inspirited and SiTuM.


#4 - Void Villains: Fc + mitana

Fc is someone who has a great deal of experience managing and has had success doing so. His knowledge of the newer gens is one of his biggest assets and I think he's capable of supporting the older ones, even if not on the level of the other managers. Mitana on the other hand seems like he has been more invested in learning in the old gens and has had a pretty good classic run doing so. If the way he helps prep ADV translates to the other gens, I believe this is a very clear play offs candidate. The only reason why I think they are #4 is because I believe mitana doesn't have as much experience managing as the other duos but, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't perform.


#5 - DaReal Drizzlers: Perry + Lunala

This duo has a lot of experience playing the game and managing. Nevertheless, how they do depends more on how active they are and how well they draft, they had some slots that flopped last year and that hopefully we don't see it this year. I also think the Thor retain is risky if he doesn't BW.


#6 - Devastating Dialgas: Mr.378 + Eledyr

Aside from Dave, Mr.378 is probably the manager in this tour with the most experience. That being said, his drafts often do not pan out as he hopes they will. If there was something to criticize, it would be that. Eledyr on the other hand, had a pretty impressive UWC run managing Team France, however, his performance in managing a draft tour is unknown to me. They do have some very strong retains in the form of crying and Fogbound Lake, both players who have seen some spotlight in official tournaments as of late.


#7 - Defiant Durians: Aurora + Drifting

Literal question mark for me, I have never seen either manage. However, I would like to think Aurora does have some experience in the old gens department and from what I've heard she offers good support. Drifting I reckon is newer to the scene so, sadly I am not as informed as I'd like to be when it comes to them. The durians do have some strong retains if they decide to show up and play for them though.


#8 - Manly Melmetal: Inder + GeniusFromHoenn

I think this is the team that could surprise us the most. Both relatively new to participating in tournaments if you compare them to the other managers. I think the performance of this team will have to do a lot with who they draft and how much synergy they have as a team. If they decide to expand and look outwards from their respective national teams, that will determine how good of a team they can build. They have one of the strongest retains in the form of skarph, if he plays for them then that certainly will cover a lot of ground.


And that's it, this is obviously not official and before draft so, it is all very relative.
 

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1st mocc has concluded! here's teams.

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Garay oak32500
Exiline28000
Icemaster22500
Staxi5500
shrang5500
Magician5000
Indulge in dreams3000
SOMALIA3000
The Kyle3000
Chiles Habaneros3000
Bouff3000
velvet3000
GoldCat3000
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pichus3000
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Li Xiao Long3000
avarice3000
SoulWind30000
The Strap24000
LBN15000
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elodin7500
TyCarter3000
susciety3000
Concept Everything3000
Taka3000
Dark Shion3000
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MTB3000
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Edgar17000
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Sharow6500
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Frito6000
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tier5500
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sasha4500
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zf20000
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Beraldo3500
Spellcaster3000
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HSOWA3000
Nyx3000
BigFatMantis3000
Seasons3000
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Monai12500
keys10000
Sabelette6500
nicole77355500
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Cam3000
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Thepatatedouce3000
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shiloh17500
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pdt13000
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lotiasite10500
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corvere7000
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Sylvi3000
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Real FV138000
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Alpha10133000
PigWarrior193000
Exotic643000
Tal03000
Tree694203000

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Exiline28000
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The Strap24000
One Last Kiss24000
Icemaster22500
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zf20000
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keys10000
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corvere7000
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Stallion6500
Sabelette6500
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shrang5500
tier5500
nicole77355500
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Magician5000
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Iguana5000
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TPP5000
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sasha4500
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Beraldo3500
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SOMALIA3000
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Chiles Habaneros3000
Bouff3000
velvet3000
GoldCat3000
Lasen3000
Frozoid3000
pichus3000
King Billu3000
Li Xiao Long3000
avarice3000
TyCarter3000
susciety3000
Concept Everything3000
Taka3000
Dark Shion3000
rookierobbie3000
MTB3000
Wamr3000
Spellcaster3000
Plushietran3000
HSOWA3000
Nyx3000
BigFatMantis3000
Seasons3000
Cam3000
Dj Breloominati♬3000
IoSonoNeon3000
Thepatatedouce3000
Z Strats3000
Sylvi3000
Alpha10133000
PigWarrior193000
Exotic643000
Tal03000
Tree694203000


Mukkers line-up:
bo3: robjr
SV: Frito
SV: tier
SV: Manaphy
SS: Stallion
SM: Sharow
ORAS: Wamr
BW: edgar
DPP: BIHI
ADV: frrf
GSC: Amaranth
RBY: Ctown6
subs: sasha, OreoSpeedruns, Dovah, Terracotta
 

Isa

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Garay oak32000
The Strap28500
Exiline28000
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Icemaster24500
zf24000
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SiTuM18000
Ainzcrad18000
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mncmt15000
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Rhmsitb15000
SoulWind15000
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Frrf13000
Manaphy13000
Edgar13000
Floss12000
keys12000
BIHI11500
Alkione11000
RealJester10500
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robjr10500
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Xrn10000
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ox049000
Santu9000
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Vileman8500
LouisIX8000
Real FV138000
Z Strats8000
elodin8000
Shuwri7500
Sabelette7500
Stallion7500
corvere7500
OreoSpeedruns7000
Thiago Nunes7000
LBN7000
shrang7000
Baloor6000
Staxi6000
Ismakhil5500
Spellcaster5500
TPP5500
Concept Everything5500
AtraX Madara5500
Enigami5500
Sharow5000
pichus5000
Taka5000
tlenit5000
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King Billu4500
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Cam4500
Seasons4500
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gorex3000
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Hacker3000
baconeatinassassin3000
oversway3000
Will3000
Bouff3000
Magician3000
 

Isa

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time to reveal my master plan

Code:
SV:    The Dovahneer
SV:    Hariyana grande 
SV:    Exiline 
SV:    Guard
SS:    Stallion
SM:    Cam
ORAS:  Gorex
BW:    OreoSpeedruns
DPP:   Alkione
ADV:   Thiago Nunes
GSC:   Indulge in dreams
RBY:   Stunner047

Sub:   Innovamania
Sub:   SOMALIA
Sub:   AtraX Madara
THE GSC GOAT IS ISA
 

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Since I am not managing and not playing either (ranking myself would be cringe anyway), I figured it would be beneficial to shed some light on the ORAS signups for this tournament and give my thoughts on some of the names that have signed up. Here are my personal rankings for the ORAS Ubers signups in UPL XI (only considering signups currently on the sheet):

Tier 1 (Best in the Pool)

FatFighter2 - Still quite new to the ORAS Ubers scene and doesn't have many tour games under his belt for the tier, but has thoroughly impressed me every time he has played in general or against me in friendly games. Very sound gameplay coupled with a knack for building really interesting and off the wall teams should get him a top end record conducive to the price tag if he does decide to play ORAS (I think he does not want to?).

Tier 2 (Top End Starter)

London Beats - Very solid and sound player, impressed me a lot leading up to and ever since last UPL with how he can pilot pretty much any team. The tournament results haven't matched that yet for ORAS Ubers (I believe he gets a bit tilted or nervous during his games which means he doesn't always match his test game skill in the actual tour games sometimes) but the process is sound so hopefully the results catch up and he has a great tour there like I think he can and should.

Royal1604 - Newer player to ORAS that impressed me a lot during UPL when he was on my team, went 3-0 and clutched up by winning all the elimination weeks including the finals deciding game (vs FatFighter2). After that he also had a great UWC run in ORAS for team France and has just been a really consistently good player for a while now. Needs to be given quality teams but past that he will finish with a quality record (probably surpassing his 10k priced retention tag).

Tier 3 (Average Starter)

oversway/dominatio/spanishlines - Old ORAS veteran that has been doing this for a long-ass time and needs no introduction. Always brings very good teams and plays a very safe and sound game. Consistently performs in tournaments and is a very hard matchup for anyone who comes up against him. The biggest issue and why he is ranked a bit lower is that I'm not sure how rusty he is (haven't seen him play in over a year) and how in touch with the current ORAS trends he would be (plus there is definitely a chance he starts in SM or another gen instead so who knows). High disparity in possible outcomes, could have the best record in the pool or could flop depending on how in touch he is with the tier.

Qwily - A bit of a newer player that has shown signs and flashes of being good at the tier. Still makes some silly mistakes sometimes but he can definitely play and should start for a team. Expect an average record in this pool with a decent amount of upside.

Tier 4 (Bottom End Starter)

Vileman - Old veteran who hasn't touched ORAS Ubers much in recent years, he has been more involved with OU and official tiers in a tournament capacity in recent times which has led to him being a tad out of touch with the ORAS Ubers metagame. Still a very strong player and would particularly shine if given more up to date teams and techs. Expect a positive record if support is there and he's not using his 2015 squads but expect a lower end record if the teams continue to resemble what he has used in the recent ORAS Ubers tournaments like UWC.

robjr - My dark horse pick to have a great tournament, very sound and competent player overall that gets ranked a bit low because of their lack of experience in ORAS Ubers specifically. Plays a really clean game and is always a very hard person to beat regardless of the situation. Hard to predict in terms of record but carries a ton of upside and could have a fantastic tournament if given the appropriate amount of support and help.

MZ - Not many of you know this but MZ actually starts for "Mconsistently Zunderrated" which is what MZ has always been in Ubers. He is a very skilled player and most of the time he performs well and plays pretty sound games in ORAS Ubers. He of course is 1000x better in his "home" tier of ORAS AG but his skills definitely do translate and he could have another really good year in Ubers if given the chance to do his thing and start for a team.

Tier 5 (High Upside Tour Players without much ORAS Ubers Experience)


ElectricityCat
Santu


I hope both of these guys get a chance to play in this tour, I could easily see both of them performing and having a great year if given the chance and the help from their teams. Both are quality ORAS players and specifically ECat has impressed me the few times I've seen him play ORAS Ubers so I think either of them could be worth a flier as a low-end starter that could potentially turn out to be great or a high-end sub that could come in for a few weeks and pick up the slack.

Tier 6 (Should probably be playing other gens but could sub in/support your ORAS slot)

Sharow
Lasen
Cam
Edgar
Mashing
Mysterious M


Anyone not included in the list either did not explicitly sign up for ORAS or I just am not familiar with their ORAS play enough to give my own personal assessment on their abilities.

future keys edit: I just realised I never checked the list of players that signed up for all tiers, so anyone who is a part of that was not included on this list, my apologies
 

corvere

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3rd upl mock just concluded

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Shuwri26500
SuperEpicAmpharos26000
Garay oak25500
Exiline25500
Heysup25000
Amaranth23000
The Strap22000
Hack21000
Icemaster21000
Skarph21000
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Ctown620000
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Kebabe18000
Monai17500
Manaphy17500
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Lasen15000
Xrn15000
watashi15000
RealJester15000
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Kate14500
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Ainzcrad12000
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keys11500
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Mashing10000
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Sharow10000
Raph3699500
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shrang8000
Rhmstib8000
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Staxi7500
Sabelette7000
TPP7000
Frrf6500
pichus6000
Chiles Habaneros6000
Magician6000
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Guard5500
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King Billu4500
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Cam4500
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Seasons4000
mncmt4000
Mysterious M3500
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Piyush253500
skimmythegod3500
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Zenadark3000
Rémi253000
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robjr3000
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Zesty433000
kythr3000
nicole77353000
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Frito3000
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LouisIX3000
polt3000
Sylvi3000
Santu3000
corvere3000
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Samqian3000
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Thiago Nunes3000
Real FV133000
Will3000
mind gaming3000
Z Strats3000
DugZa3000
susciety3000
DAHLI3000
 

corvere

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4th and final upl mock just concluded. see you all in the auction this saturday at 11am gmt -4!

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Exiline23000
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TPP4000
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Guard4000
Lily4000
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Terracotta3500
Tala3500
squinn3500
sasha3500
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Ara3000
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Baloor3000
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Thiago Nunes3000
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Hacker3000
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Enigami3000
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oversway3000
Zesty433000
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IoSonoNeon3000
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Seasons3000
 

Thor

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Finally the UPL XI Power Rankings are ready to be shown to the public, comment on your positions, see where your team is positioned and how likely it is that the results of these power rankings are true.

Thank you very much to all those who contributed so that the power rankings were launched and to a much more efficient and faster process than previous years.

Let's start with the tiers rankings

SV

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SV Cores

Defiant Durians: RichardMillePlain + Star + TPP = 28 pts.
Manly Melmetals: Inder + entrocefalo + LBN = 24 pts.
Void Villains: SoulWind + Floss + tier = 21 pts.
Dangerous Dracovish: mind gaming + 64 squares + pichus = 18 pts.
Alolan Mukkers: Manaphy + Xrn + Ainzcrad =17 pts.
Choice Bandits: Aberforth + dahli + IoSonoNeon = 14 pts.
Devastasting Dialgas: crying + elodin + Sylveon used CM = 12 pts.
DaReal Drizzlers: ox04 + Nael222 + Taka = 10 pts.


SS

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USM

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ORAS

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BW

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DPP

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ADV

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GSC

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RBY

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BO3

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Managers

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Ranking Overall


1- Dangerous Dracovish
= 72 pts
2- Void Villains = 68 pts
3- Manly Melmetals = 64 pts
3- Alolan Mukkers = 64 pts
3- Devastating Dialgas = 64 pts
6- Choice Bandits = 58 pts
7- Defiant Durians = 57 pts
7- DaReal Drizzlers = 57 pts


This time we have a triple draw in third spot between melmetal,mukkers and dialgas and a draw for last spot between durians and drizzlers.
Once again thanks to the contributors, enjoy the tournament and good luck to all the teams.
 
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This tournament has been the worst tournament for me I've ever played here on smogon, I've never felt this frustrated playing mons. It made all my other tournament matches worse to play because I was tilted and it made me angry in real life.

A combination of terrible team choices, facing stall every week, hard to deal people in the community (for some reason Ubers has the worst playerbase I've seen, it's full of people talking shit about others non-stop), wanting to win for my manager and prove myself in a new meta and as a teammate made this a bad experience to me. Losing 3 out of 5 games while making no real missplay in-game sucks even more. In fact, my biggest missplay was vs London Beats, in a game which I won. Maybe some people on my team disagree, but I'm self conscious enough about my gameplay to stand my point.

Shoutouts to 64 squares/dream for being super try-hards (like myself) and helping with dpp. Also shrang (main inspiration/watched all of his replays/never used low-skill ceiling type of teams).
 
This tournament has been the worst tournament for me I've ever played here on smogon, I've never felt this frustrated playing mons. It made all my other tournament matches worse to play because I was tilted and it made me angry in real life.

A combination of terrible team choices, facing stall every week, hard to deal people in the community (for some reason Ubers has the worst playerbase I've seen, it's full of people talking shit about others non-stop), wanting to win for my manager and prove myself in a new meta and as a teammate made this a bad experience to me. Losing 3 out of 5 games while making no real missplay in-game sucks even more. In fact, my biggest missplay was vs London Beats, in a game which I won. Maybe some people on my team disagree, but I'm self conscious enough about my gameplay to stand my point.

Shoutouts to 64 squares/dream for being super try-hards (like myself) and helping with dpp. Also shrang (main inspiration/watched all of his replays/never used low-skill ceiling type of teams).
Oh please, get over yourself. This tournament and this game are bigger than what you think you're entitled to. If you think Ubers is the worst community then you can choose not to be a part of it. Truth is, we didn't ask and we surely don't care about what you thought about it. You can also choose not to participate Ubers tours, I doubt anyone who your statement is referring to would miss you.

And by the way, I haven't watched all of your matches but I find it hard to believe that records are anything but reflective of one's performance. I may go literally winless this tour and I at the end of the day I blame nobody but myself for my record.
 
Oh please, get over yourself. This tournament and this game are bigger than what you think you're entitled to. If you think Ubers is the worst community then you can choose not to be a part of it. Truth is, we didn't ask and we surely don't care about what you thought about it. You can also choose not to participate Ubers tours, I doubt anyone who your statement is referring to would miss you.

And by the way, I haven't watched all of your matches but I find it hard to believe that records are anything but reflective of one's performance. I may go literally winless this tour and I at the end of the day I blame nobody but myself for my record.
Those were my thoughts about my own participation in the tournament that I wanted to share, I don't need to wait for you to ask or care and your post just reiterates my own lol

And it's not for me to talk about your performance either.
 
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