I dunno if it's a popular opinion or not but I feel the physical-special split is one of the best things that happened in Pokemon (besides reusable TMs) . I loved both these features that it feels very "unfun" if the games are without them.
Unfortunately, Hydreigon is inspired by King Ghidorah and has nothing to do with Hydro. The word "drei" there is German for three, which is a rule in the naming of its family (Deino and Zweilous)Here's an unpopular opinion for you guys: Hydreigon should be water/dragon type or it's mega should at least be this.
My case:
Hydreigon, although originally based on a tank, is a hydra. It's in the name 'Hydrei' and it has 3 heads. The Hydra is a mythological beast which is basically a multi headed dragon that lives in the water. The Hydra constellation is even to do with the water-the female water snake! The word Hydro is also a reference to water and the majority of the word is in the pokemon's name! It is harder to argue not for this typing to occur!
I read a page on the internet which says the inspiration for that creature came from an illustration of the Lernaean Hydra in a book about Greek Mythology. I then clicked on the link and found that it said it was " a serpentine water monster"Random Passerby said:
Unfortunately, Hydreigon is inspired by King Ghidorah and has nothing to do with Hydro. The word "drei" there is German for three, which is a rule in the naming of its family (Deino and Zweilous)
"Mary sue" is a character archtype who is always right, can do no wrong, and is generally liked/respected by everyone even though we know nothing about them and our time with those characters they don't really do anything which warrants them being treated highly.What do you mean by 'Mary Sue'? I personally think Cynthia was one of the best champions.
There are many multi-headed dragons in mythology. Japan has the Yamata no Orochi, Slavic mythology has the Zmey Gorynych, and Greek-Roman has another one in Typhon (which is the Hydra's father). Not all of these dragons live in the water, however they all are shown to be antagonistic and must be slewed by a hero at some point.Here's an unpopular opinion for you guys: Hydreigon should be water/dragon type or it's mega should at least be this.
My case:
Hydreigon, although originally based on a tank, is a hydra. It's in the name 'Hydrei' and it has 3 heads. The Hydra is a mythological beast which is basically a multi headed dragon that lives in the water. The Hydra constellation is even to do with the water-the female water snake! The word Hydro is also a reference to water and the majority of the word is in the pokemon's name! It is harder to argue not for this typing to occur!
People would have used it in Generation I if it wasn't screwed up. See, in Stadium, it was fixed. This combined with how crits were determined made the vast majority of Pokémon able to get a crit 255 out of every 256 attacks.And no-one uses Focus Energy so again, very small inconsequential oversight that doesn't matter.
This is far from an unpopular opinion. That really improved the game.I dunno if it's a popular opinion or not but I feel the physical-special split is one of the best things that happened in Pokemon (besides reusable TMs) . I loved both these features that it feels very "unfun" if the games are without them.
Okay, can we please stop using the English name when discussing a Pokémon's origin*? Especially for ones made before X and Y when there would be months between game releases in which the English names would be made?Here's an unpopular opinion for you guys: Hydreigon should be water/dragon type or it's mega should at least be this.
My case:
Hydreigon, although originally based on a tank, is a hydra. It's in the name 'Hydrei' and it has 3 heads. The Hydra is a mythological beast which is basically a multi headed dragon that lives in the water. The Hydra constellation is even to do with the water-the female water snake! The word Hydro is also a reference to water and the majority of the word is in the pokemon's name! It is harder to argue not for this typing to occur!
While I would say it would be a good idea to check the Japanese name, for Hydreigon it wouldn't have mattered. Hydreigon's Japanese name is Sazandora which comes from "sa/san" (three) and "dora" comes from "gidora" which is the Japanese way of spelling "hydra".Okay, can we please stop using the English name when discussing a Pokémon's origin*? Especially for ones made before X and Y when there would be months between game releases in which the English names would be made?
*Of course, there are those who share names, such as Pikachu and a lot of Legendaries (which Game Freak actually has strives for to have universal names for).
True, but I was just voicing my feelings on this trend.While I would say it would be a good idea to check the Japanese name, for Hydreigon it wouldn't have mattered. Hydreigon's Japanese name is Sazandora which comes from "sa/san" (three) and "dora" comes from "gidora" which is the Japanese way of spelling "hydra".
she just took does traits up to 11, then they rode on her popularity by using and inside joke from other media and made her reappear in gen5. Its hard not to label either cynthia or the most recent snowflake sue zinnia as mary sue.I don't get why people keep calling Cynthia a Sue when the Champion is kinda supposed to be a paragon of goodness, deserves respect by default because they're the Champion, and is an Ace that the player is supposed to strive to be like. I think people just like to hate on the fact she got a bit more focus and backstory than the others and is probably one of the hardest Champion fights.
Zinnia they tried too hard. Cynthia, well, it felt like she earned it in Gen IV. Then they milked it in Gen V beyond my caring for it.So a character gets more screentime because they're popular = Mary Sue?
I don't see it. I honestly think your reasoning is irrational and you're just hating her specifically because she's popular.
Zinnia can still fuck off, though.
I have no problem with her being good person, but some priorities wouldn't hurt. Like Cynthia, I'm glad you think I can take on Cyrus and calm Giratina and understand you're sort of training me so I'll be ready to battle you... but the world is at stake here! Either take down Cyrus while I try to calm Giratina or you calm Giratina while I take down Cyrus. My character is a kid going up against an insane cult leader and an angry Legendary Pokemon, I think this situation would require more than just some parental supervision! Just saying.I don't get why people keep calling Cynthia a Sue when the Champion is kinda supposed to be a paragon of goodness, deserves respect by default because they're the Champion, and is an Ace that the player is supposed to strive to be like. I think people just like to hate on the fact she got a bit more focus and backstory than the others and is probably one of the hardest Champion fights.
Zinnia is a complete Mary Sue and its because she doesn't get punished for ANYTHING. At least Cynthia never did anything you would say is bad (yeah she stayed to the side but at least you can confer that in-story had things gone beyond the player's control she can step in), but Zinnia? She almost caused the end of the world twice (telling Aqua/Magma about the Orbs & breaking the Link Cable despite not knowing if her plan would work (which it wouldn't have if it wasn't for the player)), physically attacked people even when she didn't need to, and kept teasing and withholding information she knew the people she was withholding it from needed said information. And yet she never got in trouble, instead we're meant to feel sorry for her when her plan failed.Zinnia can still fuck off, though.
Actually, your opinion on Cynthia is my opinion of Diantha. To be honest, she just wasn't...present enough in the story to really leave any sort of lasting impression. It was like "Oh, I'm an actress!" then it was like "Oh! I know Sycamore and Lysandre" then it was like "Oh, I'm also the champion!". Really...like not memorable.I actually thought Diantha was the queen of the Mary Sue stereotype.
"I'm a Trainer myself, in my off time."
Getting praise everywhere, billboards, but when it comes to saving the world? Nahhh, too busy being a celebrity~
Yuk, she makes me want to puke.
Zinnia on the other hand, I experienced to be more like a whiny brat. At least the people in-game (like Steven) didn't approve of her behaviour. She really hurt my feels when she beat up my gf/bf. There's also a strong vibe that screams 'fake' about her. Or if I understood Darth Manaphy correctly, I agree that the creators tried way too hard to make her 'special' but ended up turning her character into a cliché because of this goal instead. Too much illogical, chosen one, tragic back-story, almost destroying the world, and just being arrogant and unnecessarily mean going on with her.
Cynthia was just never memorable enough for me. Like Pikachu pointed out, there's no backstory on her, even though she's a champion. I just remembered her as 'strong champion guardian mentor person'. That was it. I didn't mind, but didn't appreciate either. She's the least Mary Sue out of those three in my opinion though, because through her in-game lines you can gather she has actually battled her way to the top. Compare to Diantha, who only has a following because of her status as a 'celebrity', or Zinnia, whose followers are all religious cult folk.
Perhaps I've come to hate her more over several playthroughs. The billboards, Sycamore's praise, Lysandre's praise (and awkward remark), her wannabe 'philosophical' lines now and then. Brrrrr. I'd take Cynthia over that any time.Actually, your opinion on Cynthia is my opinion of Diantha. To be honest, she just wasn't...present enough in the story to really leave any sort of lasting impression. It was like "Oh, I'm an actress!" then it was like "Oh! I know Sycamore and Lysandre" then it was like "Oh, I'm also the champion!". Really...like not memorable.
That's exactly why I remember her though... as I've said before, I love how we had barely any info on the champion in XY. I immediately knew Steven was the champion when I played AS (I never did the originals.) etc. But with Diantha it was completely unexpected that she would be the champion to me. That's why I like her, she's not a favorite, but I still like her.Actually, your opinion on Cynthia is my opinion of Diantha. To be honest, she just wasn't...present enough in the story to really leave any sort of lasting impression. It was like "Oh, I'm an actress!" then it was like "Oh! I know Sycamore and Lysandre" then it was like "Oh, I'm also the champion!". Really...like not memorable.
Now that sounds like an interesting idea. Cynthia seeks life answers from mythology as some do from religion and models her believes accordingly. Mythology is filled with mysterious characters so she too tries to hide personal information (she may also think many would find it odd she uses mythology as her basis for believe (disregarding at one time these mythological tales probably were part of a religion)). I bet she's an Arceist. Probably the whole time during the HGSS event when Arceus was using its power to create one of the Spacetime Dragon she was internally squeeing; like a Christian seeing Jesus healing the sick.I'm not sure how, but before I started seeing other people's opinions and before platinum, I thought Cynthia seemed like she was kind of lost, like she felt insecure. And she decided to look into mythology for answers. Really not sure why I made that connection. Because of that though, I never got the feeling that she had confidence in herself.
Heck, Alder seemed to be more sure of who he was and of right and wrong. He had a weakness (which N kicked after already beating him), but it only seemed to make Alder a more real character. Cynthia... it's like she's trying to appear mysterious but is just as lost as you.
It was the way they did it. The other Champions were either busy with something (Steven, Wallace, Alder) or just un-involved with the final battle (Lance, Iris, Diantha). But Cynthia was right there watching. And it's not like they couldn't have her do something, Giratina is supposedly throwing a hissy fit in the background so she could have said she'll be trying to calm it while we battle Cyrus (and once we're done with Cyrus it'll be revealed Giratina actually wants to battle us). It'll be her doing something instead of wishing she had a bowl of popcorn as she watched us battle.Why are we making a big deal out of Cynthia standing back and letting the 10-year-old deal with it when that happens in, like... every game?
Well shoot, now I think about it, that's pretty much damning proof "Arceism" is canon. It doesn't rule out the possibility of other poke-gods, but it's a pretty good indicator that legends about Arceus creating stuff are legit.I bet she's an Arceist. Probably the whole time during the HGSS event when Arceus was using its power to create one of the Spacetime Dragon she was internally squeeing; like a Christian seeing Jesus healing the sick.
I can think of several theories:So how do we justify legendary vs in battle abilities? Cuz honestly I'd just have my Arceus create whatever counter I needed while he stays safe in another space/time stream/phantom zone.
You'll probably have to look through character quotes for specific mentions of Arceus being the creator. Though I did find something interesting when searching through Cynthia's quotes:Pretty sure GF once said that Arceus being the creator was canon.
I swear this has come up at least five different times in the past year.
EDIT: Of course Bulbapedia has like no sources on that. Regardless, the evidence is pretty overwhelming and lots of lore about Legendaries/Mythicals checks out.
This makes it sound like Cynthia is applying there are multiple Arceus. Could my theory of Arceus a metaphysical being and what we see is just an avatar it created be true? Hmm...The Mystri Stage allows a single Arceus and nothing else to get on the stage... If you wish to go up there, you will have to deposit your other Pokémon in PC Box at the cabin.
Well, if you take Zinnia's implied statements as canon, every single copy of the game is its own universe and thus has its own creator. When you trade you create an interdimensional rift and so with trading Arceus, you're literally removing the creator of the universe from its creation.This makes it sound like Cynthia is applying there are multiple Arceus. Could my theory of Arceus a metaphysical being and what we see is just an avatar it created be true? Hmm...