Gen 3 Specially Defensive Sunflora [GP 1/1]

[BP]

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Growth / Leech Seed
move 2: Razor Leaf / Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Synthesis
item: Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 244 HP / 220 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Growth boosts Sunflora's already astounding Special Attack, which allows it to take advantage of Pokemon that cannot 2HKO it such as Elekid, Chinchou, and Staryu. Alternatively, Leech Seed is used to chip switch-ins and as a form of recovery against bulkier Poison-type Pokemon such as Koffing, Grimer, and Dustox. Razor Leaf lets Sunflora avoid becoming setup fodder against Pokemon like Spoink thanks to its raised critical hit chance. Giga Drain can be run as another bonus recovery option, although Razor Leaf has significantly higher PP. Hidden Power Ice allows Sunflora to threaten other Grass-types such as Lileep, Bayleef, and Exeggcute while also threatening Pidgeotto and Taillow. Synthesis provides Sunflora with a reliable form of recovery. The HP EVs maximize Sunflora's HP while gaining optimal Leftovers recovery, and the Speed EVs allow Sunflora to outspeed uninvested base 35 Speed Pokemon like Koffing, with the rest put into its special bulk.

Specially defensive Sunflora fits best on balance and offense teams that can benefit from the role compression it offers as an emergency check to Elekid. Physical walls such as Koffing, Lileep, and Nosepass can help shut down physical attackers like Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Pidgeotto for Sunflora. These same physical attackers pair well with Sunflora, as they are able to threaten specially defensive walls such as Delcatty and Dustox. They also greatly appreciate Sunflora acting as a check to Elekid. Due to Sunflora's susceptibility to Poison-types like Dustox, Koffing, and Grimer, Steel-types such as Aron and Magnemite pair well with it. Rhyhorn makes an excellent partner with Sunflora, as it's able to prevent Grimer from using Sunflora as setup fodder. Pokemon that resist Fire such as Nosepass, Seaking, and Chinchou pair well with Sunflora, although the latter two must be wary of Hidden Power Grass. Nosepass and Chinchou are worth mentioning, as their access to Thunder Wave can help remedy Sunflora's pitiful Speed.

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[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Grass Whistle can be used to put opposing Pokemon to sleep, but its poor accuracy makes it hard to justify over Synthesis. In the same vein, Substitute can be run to take advantage of Pokemon that might choose to switch out, but Synthesis is generally the better option to maintain Sunflora's longevity. Sunflora can opt to run maximum Speed with a Timid nature to outspeed Elekid with Chlorophyll active but this greatly weakens it offensively and is seldom worth the investment.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Castform**: Any Castform set that carries a physical move can make quick work of Sunflora. Addtionally, Castform's access to Forecast means that it can easily take a Solar Beam when sun is active and strike back with a boosted Fire Blast.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Physical wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Nidorino can all OHKO Sunflora with their STAB attacks.

**Fire-types**: Cyndaquil and Growlithe are able to wall Sunflora naturally as Fire-types and can 2HKO it with their STAB attacks. Growlithe is worth noting due to it being able to use Sunflora as setup fodder with Agility.

**Delcatty**: Delcatty can waste Sunflora's sun turns thanks to its access to Wish and Protect. Addtionally, Sunflora's poor Defense means that Body Slam can heavily threaten it.

**Status users**: Status spreaders such as Butterfree, Magnemite, Lileep, and Dustox can hinder Sunflora's ability to act as a proper wall or cleaner. All must be wary of Sunflora when sun is active, however.

**Megahorn users**: Without Chlorophyll activation, Seaking and Rhyhorn outspeed and can OHKO Sunflora with Megahorn.

**Poison-types**: Poison-types such as Dustox and Grimer all resist Solar Beam. Dustox must be wary of Hidden Power Fire and cannot safely check it if weakened. Grimer is worth noting, as it can use Sunflora as setup fodder or OHKO it with Sludge Bomb.

 

[sleid]

QC 1/2 when implemented, great job!

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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Growth / Leech Seed
move 2: Razor Leaf
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Synthesis
item: Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 244 HP / 220 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Growth boosts Sunflora's already astounding special attack, which allows it to take advantage of Pokemon that cannot 2HKO it such as Elekid, Chinchou, and Staryu. Alternatively, Leech Seed is used to chip switch-ins or as a form of recovery against bulkier Poison-type Pokemon such as Koffing, Grimer, and Dustox. Razor Leaf lets Sunflora avoid becoming set-up fodder against Pokemon like Spoink thanks to its raised critical hit chance. Giga Drain can be run as another bonus recovery option, although Razor Leaf has significantly higher PP. Hidden Power [Ice] allows Sunflora to threaten other Grass-types such as Lileep, Bayleef, and Exeggcute while also threatening Pidgeotto and Taillow. Synthesis provides Sunflora with a reliable form of recovery. The given EV spread maximizes your HP while hitting a Leftovers number and allows you to outspeed uninvested base 35s like Koffing in the event you need to try and get chip on them before being KOed.

You probably need to either move the Giga Drain option to OO or slash it into the set moves beside Razor Leaf. Everything else looks great.

Specially defensive Sunflora fits best on balance teams or offensive teams that need an emergency check to Elekid. Physical walls such as Koffing, Lileep, and Nosepass can help shut down physical attackers like Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Pidgeotto for Sunflora. These same physical attackers pair well with Sunflora as they are able to threaten specially defensive walls such as Delcatty and Dustox. Due to Sunflora's susceptibility to Poison-types like Dustox, Koffing, and Grimer; Steel-types such as Aron and Magnemite pair well with it. Rhyhorn makes an excellent partner with Sunflora as its able to prevent Grimer from using Sunflora as set up fodder. Pokemon that resist Fire-types such as Nosepass, Seaking, and Chinchou pair well with Sunflora, although the latter two must be weary of Hidden Power Grass. Nosepass is worth mentioning as its access to Thunder Wave can help remedy Sunflora's pitiful Speed.

If you make the point of Sunflora being an Elekid check, it's probably good to mention mons that benefit from having Sunflora deal with it. I would also not make it sound like that's all defensive Sunflora can do since it does well against stuff like Chinch, Mag, and Staryu as well (although i know they don't like taking status). In your last sentence, doesn't Chinch also run Twave as well?

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Grass Whistle can also be used to put opposing Pokemon to sleep, but its poor accuracy makes it hard to justify over Synthesis. In the same vain, Substitute can be run to abuse Pokemon that might choose to switch out but Synthesis is generally the better option to maintain Sunflora's longevity.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Castform**: Any of Castform's physical sets can make quick work of Sunflora. Addtionally, Castform's access to Forecast means that it can easily take a Solarbeam when Sunny Day is active.

SpD Sunflora can stand up to Castform quite well. Might be worth mentioning that.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Physical wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Nidorino can all OHKO Sunflora with their STAB.

**Fire-types**: Cyndaquil and Growlithe are able to wall Sunflora naturally as Fire-types and can 2HKO it with their STAB. Growlithe is worth noting due to it being able to use Sunflora as setup fodder.

**Delcatty**: Delcatty can waste Sunflora's Sunny Day turns thanks to its access to Wish and Protect. Addtionally, Sunflora's poor physical defense means that Body Slam can heavily threaten it.

**Status users** Status spreaders such as Butterfree, Magnemite, Lileep, and Dustox can hinder Sunflora's ability to act as a proper wall or cleaner. All however, must be weary of Sunflora when Sunny Day is active.

**Megahorn users** Seaking and Rhyhorn outspeed and can OHKO Sunflora with Megahorn without Chlorophyll activation.

I think Grimer needs to be mentioned somewhere in here since SunnyBeam Flora doesn't 3hko it.

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[BP]

Implemented and ready for 2nd check

 

[Gangsta Spongebob]

Great job, QC 2/2 when implemented

QC: 2/2

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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Growth / Leech Seed
move 2: Razor Leaf / Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Synthesis
item: Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 244 HP / 220 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Growth boosts Sunflora's already astounding special attack, which allows it to take advantage of Pokemon that cannot 2HKO it such as Elekid, Chinchou, and Staryu. Alternatively, Leech Seed is used to chip switch-ins or as a form of recovery against bulkier Poison-type Pokemon such as Koffing, Grimer, and Dustox. Razor Leaf lets Sunflora avoid becoming set-up fodder against Pokemon like Spoink thanks to its raised critical hit chance. Giga Drain can be run as another bonus recovery option, although Razor Leaf has significantly higher PP. Hidden Power [Ice] Ice allows Sunflora to threaten other Grass-types such as Lileep, Bayleef, and Exeggcute while also threatening Pidgeotto and Taillow. Synthesis provides Sunflora with a reliable form of recovery. The given EV spread maximizes your HP while hitting a Leftovers number and allows you to outspeed uninvested base 35s like Koffing in the event you need to try and get chip on them before being KOed.

Specially defensive Sunflora fits best on balance or offensive teams that can benefit from the rolecompression it offers as an need an emergency check to Elekid. Physical walls such as Koffing, Lileep, and Nosepass can help shut down physical attackers like Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Pidgeotto for Sunflora. These same physical attackers pair well with Sunflora as they are able to threaten specially defensive walls such as Delcatty and Dustox. They also greatly appreciate Sunflora acting as a check to Elekid. Due to Sunflora's susceptibility to Poison-types like Dustox, Koffing, and Grimer; Optional, but I guarantee you don't need a semicolon here Steel-types such as Aron and Magnemite pair well with it. Rhyhorn makes an excellent partner with Sunflora as its able to prevent Grimer from using Sunflora as set up fodder. Pokemon that resist Fire-types such as Nosepass, Seaking, and Chinchou pair well with Sunflora, although the latter two must be weary of Hidden Power Grass. Nosepass and Chinchou are worth mentioning as their access to Thunder Wave can help remedy Sunflora's pitiful Speed.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Grass Whistle can also be used to put opposing Pokemon to sleep, but its poor accuracy makes it hard to justify over Synthesis. In the same vain, Substitute can be run to abuse Pokemon that might choose to switch out but Synthesis is generally the better option to maintain Sunflora's longevity. Mention Max Timid on Sunny Day to outspeed Elekid, and why that's bad.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Castform**: Any Castform set that carries a physical move can make quick work of Sunflora. Addtionally, Castform's access to Forecast means that it can easily take a Solarbeam when Sunny Day is active. Mention Fire Blast, especially in sun.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Physical wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Nidorino can all OHKO Sunflora with their STAB.

**Fire-types**: Cyndaquil and Growlithe are able to wall Sunflora naturally as Fire-types and can 2HKO it with their STAB. Growlithe is worth noting due to it being able to use Sunflora as setup fodder with Agility.

**Delcatty**: Delcatty can waste Sunflora's Sunny Day turns thanks to its access to Wish and Protect. Addtionally, Sunflora's poor physical defense means that Body Slam can heavily threaten it.

**Status users** Status spreaders such as Butterfree, Magnemite, Lileep, and Dustox can hinder Sunflora's ability to act as a proper wall or cleaner. All however, must be weary of Sunflora when Sunny Day is active.

**Megahorn users** Seaking and Rhyhorn outspeed Rhyhorn doesn't outspeed Sunny Day and can OHKO Sunflora with Megahorn without Chlorophyll activation.

**Grimer**: Grimer can use either Sunflora as set up fodder and can OHKO with Sludge Bomb. Mention Poison-types in general here, as Sunflora loses one-on-one to most of them. You mention Dustox and Nidorino in other sections, but you never talked about their typing and moves. I'd argue their Grass-resistance is the most important element that lets them check it.

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Not an error but move this under the paragraphs in SET COMMENTS to make it easier to upload

 

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add remove comment (ac) = add comma

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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Growth / Leech Seed
move 2: Razor Leaf / Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Synthesis
item: Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 244 HP / 220 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Growth boosts Sunflora's already astounding special attack Special Attack, which allows it to take advantage of Pokemon that cannot 2HKO it such as Elekid, Chinchou, and Staryu. Alternatively, Leech Seed is used to chip switch-ins or and as a form of recovery against bulkier Poison-type Pokemon such as Koffing, Grimer, and Dustox. Razor Leaf lets Sunflora avoid becoming set-up setup fodder against Pokemon like Spoink thanks to its raised critical hit chance. Giga Drain can be run as another bonus recovery option, although Razor Leaf has significantly higher PP. Hidden Power Ice allows Sunflora to threaten other Grass-types such as Lileep, Bayleef, and Exeggcute while also threatening Pidgeotto and Taillow. Synthesis provides Sunflora with a reliable form of recovery. The given EV spread maximizes your HP while hitting a Leftovers number and allows you to outspeed uninvested base 35s like Koffing in the event you need to try and get chip on them before being KOed. The HP EVs maximize Sunflora's HP while gaining optimal Leftovers recovery, and the Speed EVs allow Sunflora to outspeed uninvested base 35 Speed Pokemon like Koffing, with the rest put into its special bulk.

Specially defensive Sunflora fits best on balance or and offensive offense teams that can benefit from the role compression it offers as an emergency check to Elekid. Physical walls such as Koffing, Lileep, and Nosepass can help shut down physical attackers like Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Pidgeotto for Sunflora. These same physical attackers pair well with Sunflora, (ac) as they are able to threaten specially defensive walls such as Delcatty and Dustox. They also greatly appreciate Sunflora acting as a check to Elekid. Due to Sunflora's susceptibility to Poison-types like Dustox, Koffing, and Grimer, (ac) Steel-types such as Aron and Magnemite pair well with it. Rhyhorn makes an excellent partner with Sunflora, (ac) as its it's able to prevent Grimer from using Sunflora as set up setup fodder. Pokemon that resist Fire-types such as Nosepass, Seaking, and Chinchou pair well with Sunflora, although the latter two must be weary wary of Hidden Power Grass. Nosepass and Chinchou are worth mentioning, (ac) as their access to Thunder Wave can help remedy Sunflora's pitiful Speed.

[SET CREDITS]
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Grammar checked by:
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[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Grass Whistle can also be used to put opposing Pokemon to sleep, but its poor accuracy makes it hard to justify over Synthesis. In the same vain vein, Substitute can be run to abuse take advantage of Pokemon that might choose to switch out, (ac) but Synthesis is generally the better option to maintain Sunflora's longevity. Sunflora can opt to run max maximum Speed with a Timid nature to outspeed Elekid with Chlorophyll activation active, (ac) but this greatly weakens it offensively should this be defensively, as there is no offensive investment that is being sacrificed to begin with? and is seldom worth the investment.

Checks and Counters (removed one line from above)
===================
**Castform**: Any Castform set that carries a physical move can make quick work of Sunflora. Addtionally, Castform's access to Forecast means that it can easily take a Solarbeam Solar Beam when Sunny Day sun is active and strike back with a boosted Fire Blast.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Physical wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Nidorino can all OHKO Sunflora with their STAB attacks.

**Fire-types**: Cyndaquil and Growlithe are able to wall Sunflora naturally as Fire-types and can 2HKO it with their STAB attacks. Growlithe is worth noting due to it being able to use Sunflora as setup fodder with Agility.

**Delcatty**: Delcatty can waste Sunflora's Sunny Day sun turns thanks to its access to Wish and Protect. Addtionally, Sunflora's poor physical defense Defense means that Body Slam can heavily threaten it.

**Status users**: (add colon) Status spreaders such as Butterfree, Magnemite, Lileep, and Dustox can hinder Sunflora's ability to act as a proper wall or cleaner. All however, must be weary of Sunflora when Sunny Day is active. All must be wary of Sunflora when sun is active, however.

**Megahorn users**: (add colon) Without Chlorophyll activation active, Seaking and Rhyhorn outspeed and can OHKO Sunflora with Megahorn.

**Poison-types**: Poison-types such as Dustox and Grimer all resist Solarbeam Solar Beam. Dustox must be weary wary of Hidden Power Fire and cannot safely check it if weakened. Grimer is worth noting, (ac) as it can use Sunflora as set up setup fodder or OHKO it with Sludge Bomb.

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