Posting this for rozes:
"wasnt really planning on posting this, but w/ a push from some ppl and in order to help the meta move along imma just post a bunch of teams i made for lax / sg / eternally / others over the course of snake and slam, not all are good but i think all have merits or some cool sets someone can make use of
teams are (mostly) in chronological order starting from phase 3 at the top and phase 1 at the bottom
http://pokepast.es/fa67b968c5d8fa57
gogoat isnt completely terrible in this meta, hard to pick between grass z / ground z / rock z though, grass z has been pretty useful though so thats what ive been using. also has another version w/ clefairy > miltank, rockers w/ recovery are good :o
http://pokepast.es/3d542114324ff958
the idea was to use klink vs snaga after dod and i talked about how it has the potential to destroy common balance cores. some unfortunate circumstances happened during the game to cause a loss but i think he could have won s/o the crit burn + happiness bug =[
http://pokepast.es/19a787599da2f0c7
http://pokepast.es/c905ed0657666af8
http://pokepast.es/b99de2254da6e613
auro is the best ho lead esp when paired w/ an offensive spiker. these were the three builds i ended up making with the auro + garb duo, but i think there is a lot more to be looked into in terms of these builds.
http://pokepast.es/a6322cab8dd237cf
bouff seemed like a fun idea in my head, not really that amazing on paper despite being able to check whims fairly well. does a bit of work but you are better off using another sub mon like brav over it.
http://pokepast.es/fe48674ccc5cec1d
alts underrated esp when added to a fun d/f/s core like whims and klinklang. fairly standard team aside from that though.
http://pokepast.es/df018d8858fa49d1
http://pokepast.es/c275ff8a794983c6
two variations of other ho builds i was trying out, one much more recent than the other in terms of mons. i feel medis pretty underrated considering nothing really wants to take on hjk / tpunch allowing it to run dual prio fairly safely. omas also pretty underwhelming, better off using smth like crustle in that slot aside from it being nice to set up on fire moves w/ oma.
http://pokepast.es/5df79681a4410811
was looking for a viable silvally form and came accross this idea. rock slide > tox is an option but golbat isnt rlly a pokemon so i figured toxic would be better in general.
http://pokepast.es/dfe42928235f0248
cb bull / bull in general is super underrated atm for some reason, despite it checking a really large portion of the meta along w/ the fact most fairy checks have shifted to being spdef due to the rising of whims. paired w/ kk and alt for a nice d/f/s core as well in order to better check everything.
http://pokepast.es/dbd010483bac34b9
hails not that great atm and idt this build is optimized @ all for the current meta or really any meta esp w/ the decline of opposing ice cream to take advantage of. i do think this is better than that garbage 4x ice team w/ lead lass ive seen some people using.
http://pokepast.es/89df44656fbd6ed4
lol probably regret giving garay this esp since it was such a ct pick that it wasnt really bound to do well. frogs still nice atm i feel bc an offensive tspiker that can pressure xatu is really nice. brav is also really nice vs some of the teams meeps was using, but happened to be the game he brought a kk (also a really good pick vs meeps)
http://pokepast.es/4b7c69ea6aafdc95
my other idea for meeps since i felt brav was a good pick still and pairing it w/ something like ditto allowed it to function better vs barb / klinklang. build ended up being a bit to fat for my liking, especially since i lack a cleric which can cause a lot of issues vs toxic spam since nothing rlly wants to come in on it. def wanna optimize this bc it was a really fun build when it did work.
http://pokepast.es/7d9726117bcfdd00
http://pokepast.es/1972160569df2377
specs lapras actually isnt bad atm, but the idea for this team came around me wanting to build with perish trap lapras for one of lax's opps (idr who it was anymore). decided to put specs on it during testing bc i didnt want ppl to pick up on perish lapras since i felt it was pretty good @ getting rid of some fat mons. team ended up pretty good aside from a lack of a ground immunity, prob needs some tweaking to use it in the future.
http://pokepast.es/e693950847b5224b
dodrios good, return on it is bad i feel since +2 qa is able to dispose of things faster like whims / lee with a little chip.
http://pokepast.es/5bdad1a7b803663f
weathers still broken :shrug:
http://pokepast.es/6330114e0f2d244b
after eternally showed me yui.'s bulds i pointed out how aboma was a really nice pick vs the teams that he had been using so far in snake. i really like how this build turned out even if eternally decided not to roll w/ aboma in the end. gastros a really nice pick on some builds due to how well it can take advantage of tox + tect along w/ being able to counter emboar really well.
http://pokepast.es/3fbe655cf9529dbb
one of my favorite teams i built, alola eggy can be super threatening when supported right and i think this builds manages to do that. used to have scarf barb > kabu in order to really pull off the non-choiced emboar and ss barb bluff, but this still manages to do that in a sense. also sash endeavor viv is still really good in this meta.
http://pokepast.es/df8e880e492c4eb2
the stall i made during phase 2 bc lax wanted to stall hootie. this team is decent aside from having a really hard time against xatu since i have to resort to pp stalling it most of the time. z tox pyuku is to take on taunt doom and smth else i cant put my finger on atm.
http://pokepast.es/c2579b7fd4031f56
clefairy and slowbro are really nice when paired together since they are able to wall each others checks like emboar / whims / ice cream etc. team ended up a bit too passive for my liking since your only big offensive presence is really emboar and the team lost a lot of momentum really easily in tests so we ended up not using it, still a fan of the core + team though.
http://pokepast.es/9b26e2f611ffcdd1
lax wanted to use z ice ice cream vs kush and this is the best way i could figure to support it bc eject gets it in really nicely. team ended up really weak to cryo so i put toxic on this version, but we figured there was a higher chance of kush bringing toge which ended up basically costing lax the loss on mu. also i think he used some diff coverage on sigi, but thats fairly inconsequential since sigi can really run anything atm.
http://pokepast.es/d7b98cd5bf719c4b
the ho i was spamming phase 1 / early phase 2, really a big fan of this build since its just a lot of threats that work well together. w/ barb banned im not really sure what can go in that slot since im not the biggest oma fan (thought it does kind of work here). scarf dodrios a really nice revenge killer for ho i feel ppl dont use fsr bc its decent atk + high bp stabs leads to it being a good revenge killer in the meta.
http://pokepast.es/0701c51e45429b82
wanted lax to use z kiss jynx vs kush bc his fatter builds always were weak to it (hootie did give in to me and use it phase 3 for a win), and joey ended up using this level 56 in slam playoffs as well. this is also the team i first decided to try out offensive sub seed whims on which kind of caught on afterwards w/ hootie and disj both hyping it up in different places, which i feel is warranted for such a good set.
http://pokepast.es/36616310e9f15f2a
http://pokepast.es/7a55c09b6601fff4
both the webs builds i made, one that has a specs chatot the other so that golbat / other defoggers can never defog vs you with a combo of double taunt + fast boom. both builds i feel are fairly good. z bug gallade > all other ones btw i dont even think theres much of an argument to be had since bug is able to ohko xatu / uxie / slowbro @ +2 which grass / elec / whatever else ppl are using seem to fail on one of these.
http://pokepast.es/4fb7ee3b3e06f1ea
dod wanted to use a tauros in open so i decided to throw this together, came out /ok/ but tauros really isnt that good atm so i dont see much used to this team now.
http://pokepast.es/4d5450a76d17f060
wanted lax to use a ditto balance build vs blast since he tends to use set up spam builds a lot more than your average person which led to making a team i would never really use otherwise. team turned out pretty fun and i think? i won an official tour w/ it so it isnt that bad ig
http://pokepast.es/b490ef7217c04275
claw + lagging tail whims is a super fun strat i saw after seeing ppl use lagging tail whims in other tiers. this build was born out of that and it ended up pretty solid all things considered. claw can really be any set you want, sub + lo isnt the best idea but it does work sometimes. prob would do ebelt / wise glass > lo if you keep sub or try out hp grass in the last slot > sub.
there are quite a few more teams from semis / a few more i cant find fsr but im fairly tired after putting all of this together already so its w/e
thx eternally for posting"