This post bothers me because obviously have never used Bulk Up Talonflame. Personally it's my favorite set since it breaks stall and can actually laugh at Heatran. The point is to come in on something like Ferrothorn, Chansey or Heatran, use Taunt and grab some Bulk Up boosts as they switch.
Cherrim doesn't seem THAT horrible when I look at it; Flower Gift basically gives it 130 Special Attack. However...yeah, unusual choice when Megasaur is super duper common.
Even in sun, Cherrim's (effective) 90 base attack is hardly usable. Even with 117 Special Defense, it boosts a common offensive type that it's weak to as a trade-off.Cherrim's Smogon Analysis said:
It's not an effective base 90. It's an effective base 114.5 after full investment and Adamant or Lonely nature (Lonely to avoid nerfing its Sp. Atk and Sp. Def, which it needs for its ability and for Weather Ball). Its Physical moveset is still pretty bad, however, basically boiling down to Swords Dance, Return, Petal Blizzard, Natural Gift, and Rollout. It can also use Weather Ball for a 100 base power Special Fire move boosted by Sun, which can probably deal a good bit of damage even uninvested if it's SE. Nature Power access would've actually made it pretty usable last gen, but since Nature Power calls Special moves now... not so much. If it learned Stone Edge, that would make it at least somewhat more viable, since relying on Rollout is less than ideal. The other problem is it sort of needs both Sun support and Swords Dance in order to deal real damage.
Talonflame learns Bulk Up? That changes much. I also like how you put Taunt in there, to stop a Tormenting Heatran or Aegislash from being a pain.
That is fucking it. i'm doing this shit.
YOU CAN DO IT BUT I DID IT FIRST
#dundiddlydooyoloswaghellyeahfuckingright
Your replay is worth watching twice for the sheer absurdity of the opponent's team. Air Balloon non-mega Fire Punch Ampharos? Air Slash Bravaiary? (nice base 57 sp attack stat). Iron Tail Umbreon? Blizzard Swampert (and using it on a Magikarp)? lol.
Scarf...maybe? Greninja is usually super fast, and Magnezone has like 60 speed, so I can see the confusion.
Scarfed Timid max speed Magnezone outspeeds Modest max speed Greninja, so it is possible without the other player being completely stupid.
Do you mean ThunderPunch Dragonite, or people using ThunderPunch against Dragonite?
I've seriously overestimated the bottom of the ladder. Apparently, raantaa could not handle the double bird combo of Farfetch'd and Delibird. Can anyone do it with Azurill instead of one of the birds? I would like to believe there is a team so bad that no one could lose to it, but people just keep proving me wrong.
You have to do it on the OU ladder for it to be official.
You're doing UU and you're using Spinda, who we agreed was OP xD
I would, but I don't want to lower my OU ranking.
Use an alt, do you think I actually ladder under 'SWAGMLGPRO'? xD
People were able to successfully sweep teams with Spinda, so I said that you had to make the team even worse by getting rid of Spinda and running Feebas instead.
I give fucking up
