SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[RoiDadadou]

I see the images, i meant thats how i keep track of which one is who when i see the names x'ddd

Oh thank god, you scared me

 

[Bugboy]

I mean how do you do a typo if you're just copying data from files

That’s not how this works though. The data is not listed in the game perfectly ready to copy and paste into a text file lol.

 

[Melons-N-Soda]

Presuming the stats are real, Annihilape didn't get off as badly as some have said. The Speed loss sucks yes, but its still a decent Speed tier especially with Scarf. Plus Ghost/Fighting is a damn solid offensive combo even if its attack stat isn't the absolute highest. If this thing gets Poltergeist this might be solid. Basically a Marshadow but not completely stupid and with U-turn.

Farigiraf is tragic though cause its barely better than fucking Oranguru who needs basically no other Psychic-types existing in a meta to be even remotely viable.

 

[Perriechu]

the stats are.. fake?

i'm blaming Centro

 

[R_N]

I mean how do you do a typo if you're just copying data from files

because i dont think internally the data is literally presented in this format (that is with the / and in this specific order)
there's a small bit of formatting you have to do and at that point you might be doing it by manual typing in attempts to fix errors and making more errors without realizing

imagine this
you have something like this (for simplificationi'll just sassume they got spaces and are in the right order) 94 80 86 122 80 108
and you want to add / instead of the spaces to help readability. replacing is dangerous or you just find it easier so you start going ham
94/808/6/122/80/108
oops! you go into backspace it
94/806/122/80/108
go too far, gotta retype the missing number
94/80/56/122/80/108
yep nailed it


i've done similar things in the past even with full copy pastes available so....

 

[GeneralNameless]

I think the easiest way to test this leak is for someone with the game to catch a mon that hasn't been caught yet, like one of the legendary quartet, and check its stats.

 

[Lectrys]

because i dont think internally the data is literally presented in this format (that is with the / and in this specific order)
there's a small bit of formatting you have to do and at that point you might be doing it by manual typing in attempts to fix errors and making more errors without realizing

imagine this
you have something like this (for simplificationi'll just sassume they got spaces and are in the right order) 94 80 86 122 80 108
and you want to add / instead of the spaces to help readability. replacing is dangerous or you just find it easier so you start going ham
94/808/6/122/80/108
oops! you go into backspace it
94/806/122/80/108
go too far, gotta retype the missing number
94/80/56/122/80/108
yep nailed it


i've done similar things in the past even with full copy pastes available so....

So you don't highlight everything you want spaces replaced with slashes with and Find And Replace spaces with slashes?

That's the equivalent of what I do at work. It's less dangerous than going at it manually.

 

[Perriechu]

I think the easiest way to test this leak is for someone with the game to catch a mon that hasn't been caught yet, like one of the legendary quartet, and check its stats.

without knowing IVs its not possible to get it 100% accurate.

some of my stat estimates were fairly close, but idk if that warrants it being accurate as there's still a margin of error

for reference, my estimates vs actual;

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Dudunsparce
Est: 115 / 90 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 45
Actual: 125 / 100 / 80 / 85 / 75 / 55

Tatsugiri
Est: 70 / 40 / 60 / 115 / 85 / 82
Actual: 68 / 50 / 60 / 120 / 95 / 82

Gholdengo
Est: 85 / 50 / 110 / 140 / 95 / 95
Actual: 87 / 60 / 95 / 133 / 91 / 84

Ting-Lu (I assume this is the Snail based on the speed, but also maybe the deer with the big ass pot?)
Est: 140 / 115 / 140 / 55 / 90 / 40
Actual: 165 / 110 / 130 / 50 / 80 / 45

Tinkaton
Est: 75/80/70/75/105/105
Actual: 85 / 75 / 77 / 70 / 105 / 94

 

[Some random freak]

Yeah I'm thinking the stats are mostly correct barring a couple of errors here and there. Some confirmation would be nice though.

 

[R_N]

So you don't highlight everything you want spaces replaced with slashes with and Find And Replace spaces with slashes?

That's the equivalent of what I do at work.

no

i probably should!

but i dont. Why? who can say why my brain is like this

 

[pecanbegone]

assuming no discrepancy in stats:

oh my god Spidops is terrible lol

 

[Peaches144]

without knowing IVs its not possible to get it 100% accurate.

some of my stat estimates were fairly close, but idk if that warrants it being accurate as there's still a margin of error

I mean we could just get a level 50 Tinkaton and if it's attack is massive then we know the stats were fake. And if it's attack is pitiful then I won't believe it and there's been a terrible mistake.

!!!TinkaBros Rise Up!!!

 

[khlaylav]

assuming no discrepancy in stats:

oh my god Spidops is terrible lol

Unless it gets a great movepool or ability worst Bug type in a looooooong time lol

 

[Perriechu]

I mean we could just get a level 50 Tinkaton and if it's attack is massive then we know the stats were fake. And if it's attack is pitiful then I won't believe it and there's been a terrible mistake.

!!!TinkaBros Rise Up!!!

we saw a screenshot of it in game, although it was EV trained already, my predictions were;

Est: 75 / 80 / 70 / 75 / 105 / 105
Actual: 85 / 75 / 77 / 70 / 105 / 94

its time we face that its not going to be very.. strong

 

[Count Bleck]

we saw a screenshot of it in game, although it was EV trained already, my predictions were;

Est: 75 / 80 / 70 / 75 / 105 / 105
Actual: 85 / 75 / 77 / 70 / 105 / 94

its time we face that its not going to be very.. strong

We can still hold out for a special hold item like thick club or light ball. The hammer is pretty important to it so that may be the key.

 

[Peaches144]

we saw a screenshot of it in game, although it was EV trained already, my predictions were;

Est: 75 / 80 / 70 / 75 / 105 / 105
Actual: 85 / 75 / 77 / 70 / 105 / 94

its time we face that its not going to be very.. strong

But I've been on Hopium for so long that I'm scared to change to Copium <\3

 

[Missingno.1998]

I'm inclined to say they are real simply because of how close they seem to be to the estimates. Nothing seems to far off or crazy.

 

[Some random freak]

Unless it gets a great movepool or ability worst Bug type in a looooooong time lol

Yeah at least Lokix has passable attack and speed and Rabsca could be a potentially good TR setter. Spidops has terrible stats and is monotype. It definitely feels like the red headed step-child of the three bugs.

 

[ThreeT]

Somewhat disappointed in Lokix if true. With a total of 450 BST. 102 attack and 92 speed are the best stats. It would need good moves or abilities to make up for it.

 

[360 No Silph Scope]

Yes they are real I myself made estimates on Cyclizar, Tatsugiri and Tinkaton and the estimate is very close to the real so yeah I think they are indeed real

 

[Eriorguez]

450 is Venomoth tier tho.

 

[Moyashi]

Presuming the stats are real, Annihilape didn't get off as badly as some have said. The Speed loss sucks yes, but its still a decent Speed tier especially with Scarf. Plus Ghost/Fighting is a damn solid offensive combo even if its attack stat isn't the absolute highest. If this thing gets Poltergeist this might be solid.

This. Assuming the stats are real of course. 110/115/80/50/90/90 is a nicely optimized statline. Slightly less offensive but substantially bulkier. 90 speed is great for a breaker anyways

 

[Eriorguez]

Isn't 115/90 what Lucario has for offensive stats anyway?

 

[RoiDadadou]

because i dont think internally the data is literally presented in this format (that is with the / and in this specific order)
there's a small bit of formatting you have to do and at that point you might be doing it by manual typing in attempts to fix errors and making more errors without realizing

imagine this
you have something like this (for simplificationi'll just sassume they got spaces and are in the right order) 94 80 86 122 80 108
and you want to add / instead of the spaces to help readability. replacing is dangerous or you just find it easier so you start going ham
94/808/6/122/80/108
oops! you go into backspace it
94/806/122/80/108
go too far, gotta retype the missing number
94/80/56/122/80/108
yep nailed it


i've done similar things in the past even with full copy pastes available so....

I've copied stats before, no, you just have to CC and import in some formats, and it does it automatically. Unless you don't know how to do that, in which case you can't datamine properly, so you're fake.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Even if the stats are fake, they're pretty damn close to the real stats, whatever they may be. So don't be too excited or disappointed