so yeah, im trying out people with editing the venusaur analysis. can you all tell me what you think of this i just got in pm?
Here is my attempt at Venusaur:
Venusaur
Sleeper Leader
~ Razor Leaf
~ Sleep Powder
~ Swords Dance
~ Body Slam
As he is faster than the bog-standard Exeggutor lead, he can get a Sleep Powder in straight away and then, when they switch in (and with a bit of luck), paralyze the next Pokemon with Body Slam.
Razor Leaf can almost OHKO Starmie - with Razor Leaf's high critical chance a proper OHKO is not that unlikely. After a Swords Dance, he becomes quite a formidable attacking force with Body Slam - he can 2HKO Chansey and deal lots of damage to most lesser pokemon with Body Slam.
If the opponent allows their Exeggutor to sleep and they don't have a Gengar then this set has the potential to destroy entire teams - most of his counters are still scared of Body Slam with multiple Swords Dances.
Other Options
Hyper Beam can always work with Swords Dance, put it over Sleep Powder if you've got plenty of other sleepers, or over Razor Leaf if you think you can wear down Golem and Rhydon with something else and finish them with a Hyper Beam - although, of course, this leaves him vulnerable to the opponent's Sleep Powders. Growth could work in conjunction with Mega Drain, but it's not really recommended as Venusaur has much better things to do.
Opinion
Venusaur is fast enough (80 base speed) to outspeed Exeggutor and put it, and a lot of other slowish standards, to sleep. He can then do decent amounts of damage with either Razor Leaf or Body Slam. With one or two Swords Dances he can pose a threat to most pokemon and his defences aren't bad either - although his typing is not brilliant (four 2x weaknesses and one 4x weakness). Overall a pretty good Pokemon.
Counters
Gengar is immune to his boosted Body Slams and can switch in on a Hyper Beam and Hypnosis away - forcing you to switch out.
Moltres, Zapdos and Articuno are also good counters; they have super effective attacks (Flamethrower, Ice Beam and Drill Peck), are faster, and are resistant to Razor Leaf, although, like everything they need to be wary of boosted Hyper Beams.
Alakazam, Jynx and even Rhydon can counter to a lesser extent but he takes a good amount of damage from Earthquake, so try not to switch him into it too often.
Thanks.
Tim