Alphabet Soup Update 
- Neutralizing Gas is just a better Mold Breaker in Soup, at the cost of only being able to inherit from Weezing or Koffing. Mold Breaker by itself is already incredibly strong in Soup, with many Pokemon running Ability Shield. However, Ability Shields do not prevent Mold Breaker. Mold Breaker is mainly used on offensive mon to prevent defensive abilities from halting a sweep.
60/154/118/164/116/92 (704 BST)
Weezing (Numel) @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- No Retreat
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Nasty Plot/Night Daze/Ancient Power
This is the main set for Neutralizing Gas. Being able to bypass Ice Scales and Well Baked Body are very useful tools.
- Alolan Ninetales is very good at everything it commonly does. Speedy utility. Aurora Veil and Nuzzle are able to greatly improve the ability to set up for the rest of Tales's team. Regen pivot. With snow now boosting defense, Tales is suprisingly resilient against physical and special attacks. Being able to immediately set up Veil also makes it last longer. While not consistent, Snow Cloak has made Alola Tales a more annoying with dodging moves that would take it out of the game every time, like Trick. Freeze Dry is also good because it can 2hko a lot of mons. Ninetales also enables snow sweepers, like Sandshrew or anything that wants Slush Rush.
76/106/111/125/143/162 (720 BST)
Tornadus-Therian (Ninetales-Alola) @ Light Clay
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nuzzle
- Volt Switch
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry/Blizzard
- As I've said in previous posts, the Raichu bros are the same mon more or less. Kanto is more of utility by being able to set up Electric Terrain. Alola has Speed and the ability to hit on the physical side with STAB Psystrike (although Ice Scales still makes Psystrike weaker) and can outspeed pretty much anything in Electric Terrain.
Iron Bundle/Basculegion-F (Raichu-Alola) @ Life Orb/Heavy Duty Boots
60/128/91/151/123/173 (726 BST)
60/131/79/145/126/158 (699 BST)
Ability: Quark Drive/Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rising Voltage
- Nasty Plot
- Psystrike
- Volt Switch/Parabolic Charge/Surf
60/135/94/147/129/172 (737 BST)
Raichu @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Life Orb
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rising Voltage
- Nasty Plot
- Volt Switch/Parabolic Charge
- Surf/Psystrike/Grass Knot
- Tail Glow
- Timburr is maybe the strongest physical threat in Soup. Just like Conk in Pokebilities, it has Iron Fist, Guts, and Sheer Force. This means it has a 1.5x boost to its physical attack (when Neutralizing Gas isn't present), a 1.2x boost to punching moves like Mach Punch and Drain Punch, and a 1.3x due to Sheer Force (Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Thunderous Kick). Timburr getting access to T moves as well is very helpful. Tidy Up allows Timburr!Ursaring to outspeed most things after just one boost, even with a measly 92 speed. It's other usual moves are Drain Punch, Thunder Punch, and Knock Off/Mach Punch. Mach Punch is usually for Timburr!Haxorus, for hitting through defensive abilities like Fur Coat and Fluffy. Timburr on a team automatically requires offensive play to overcome.
75/214/143/75/97/92 (696 BST)
Ursaring (Timburr) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Quick Feet
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Tidy Up
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
75/218/147/72/96/103 (711 BST)
Haxorus (Timburr) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Tidy Up/Bulk Up
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
| NGas | ATales | Raichu | Alolachu | Tail Glow | Timburr | Belly Drum | |
| BBP | Restrict | DNB | DNB | DNB | Abstain | DNB | Unban, Restrict |
| TTLT | Restrict | DNB | "Abtain" | "Abtain" | DNB | Ban | Unban, Restrict |
| We Up | Abstain | Abstain | Abstain | Abstain | Abstain | DNB | Unban, Restrict |
| Result | Restrict | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB | Unban, Restrict |
Restricted Neutralizing Gas, Belly Drum unbanned and restricted
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Alphabet Soup Update
LC Mix and Mega has RESTRICTED Buizel and Gligar!
Calyrex-Shadow
Ditto
Komala
Numel
Arena Trap
Contrary
Huge Power
Illusion
Magnet Pull
Moody
Pure Power
Shadow Tag
Stakeout
Sleep Moves Clause
Terastal Clause
Slaking - Whenever Slaking is freed from the shackles of Truant, it's a major threat. As mentioned above, the nearly peerless durability and power of Slaking (most commonly fused with Breloom or Gliscor) make it a meta-defining threat. As the tier develops, council will be watching Slaking closely to see if its influence is healthy.
Poison Heal - With two viable fuses donating the ability and a host of viable bases to take advantage (along with the recent ban Neutralizing Gas), the meta is prime real estate for Poison Heal. Perhaps the status immunity and passive healing is a little too free...
instead of their respective preferred items, drastically reducing their effectiveness. This would also have an unhealthy domino effect on gameplay involving some of the top offensive threats, such as Slaking[Breloom/Gliscor] and Miraidon[Mewtwo].
Alphabet Soup Update
adpg.2007 (Me)
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Boomburst: Haha, Adaptabilty Boomburst goes brr. The damage is just insane.
Quiver Dance: Because is not so widely spread, we're gonna give it a try
Kingambit: this Mon have a pretty widespread of moves and Supreme Overlord can make every Poke a overpowered cleaner, however, the testing is not enough yet
Tail Glow: +3 in Sp. Attack in one turn can be extremely threatening
Avalugg: This thing with his Titanic Defense and a good typing sometimes is completely unbreakable, specially if there's another Mon that can tank the special side to support It, like Chansey, Blissey or Goodra.
Skeledirge: Unaware + Cosmic Power + Torch Song + Stored Power is a overpowered combo in almost any mon, so it's banned
Espathra and Flitle: because they are the causes of Speed Boost being overpowered, is better to ban It again and for that.
Pelipper: with the combination of Water Spout + Drizzle, this is nearly unwalleable, while also having good coverage and priority to back it
Contrary: everything getting STAB High Base Power Attacks that boost Stats in Superpower, Leaf Storm and Fleur Cannon just make snowballing extremely easy
Eruption: Because Eevee gets Eruption with Adaptabilty, is nearly unwallable from him, more when you think of It getting Electro Drift too, but with this out, is still a good donor, but not an OP one
Ursaluna: because Heracross gives the exact same traits, Ursaluna not has something special to offer, so it gets unbanned
Iron Valiant: just banned from Base Inheritance, with Pult being free, Valiant is not really a Top Mon, so it gets unbanned
Dragon Dance and Tidy Up: just for testing purposes, these moves are gonna be allowed and see if they are the OP thing 
no
take a guess
no
idrk tbh. maybe
same as pdon, No
this sucks ass now
still no
sit tight guys
this gets better cuz other things get better. worth mentioning that it can heal off status if it isn't impostering.
this doesn't change like, at all. it's still good tho
now this is a change that looks balanced but also VERY good. now that this gets magic bounce (i think), stuff like will-o-wisp, glare and strength sap are rendered useless against this
this is a teeeeny change, but primal kyogre has more offensive value. now those scalds really do be hitting
next
all the ultra beasts gain minor buffs, but this one is pretty significant because its kart
next
this is identical to kyogre-p in the that their defensive stab gains more buffs
since most things get pressure, this isn't too important
next
nah nothing too important here
no large change here, similar to dialga-o
ok now THIS is neat. auto teravolt means that walls are no longer true walls anymore and this gives kyurem-b a big boost to its offensive capabilities
normally, this wouldn't be too important as sand force is mainly useless but we have a new star coming up...keep reading...
regen + another defensive ability?!? yes plz sign me up.
for this, abil isn't important
like kart, but less of an impact
no change, next
also no change, next
no change here as well, next
ooh now this is heat ngl. this usually runs pixilate itself, so now that it can run a secondary one makes it a whole lot easier
shadow shield on this mon is quite nice, as it can set up no-retreat easier, giving it another niche over arc-ghost (one niche is stored power)
nope next
nah next
its a shame this has such a bad stab combo, but it still looks horrifying. tough claws/sword of ruin + adaptability might cook (almost outclassed by something else actually)
well, this is similar to kart except its weaker but faster
nope next
not a large change that makes it very important, but iron barbs can helps against stuff like kart and phero
actually not bad. this would've been better during lumina unban because of how it was immune to the stat drops but this is still alr
a miniscule niche which helps it against ash-greninja thanks to shell armor
normalize sets are screwed but pixilate sets are alr. booster could work but i might be overestimating. it also pairs well with something else stay tuned...
ew no
next
similar to dialga-o and eternatus. next
it would be a REAL shame if almost ALL of msciz's viable moves were over 60 BP hmm?
no next
like mirai, zacian gains a better offensive ability which doesn't help as much
like kyu-b, this has auto turboblaze soo walls are no longer TRUE walls
not really worth mentioning as it's role is a special wall, but pixilate sets become somewhat viable
ooh cool tech coming right up. protean sets would've been very cool, but other abilities like adapt can work well with neuroforce
excluding the stats, this is worse solgaleo
will work, does power construct override stuff like bounce or fc.
