I said Latias is healthy because it provide offense an answer to threats, but unhealthy because of its Z move capabilities. I didn't contradict myself, I simply showed both sides of the coin, whereas Breloom has no defensive merit for the tier that it bring along with its capabilities for destroying teams. Same thing can be said for Cb Azu/Sap sipper Azu. They can hurt, and they can help. Or how Slowbro-M was suspected, but it also helped against Physical Z-Move users etc. Why are Z-moves not unhealthy? There is no reason to back that up. You could say I was being blunt or straightforward, but I never went out of my way to be rude. And I'm not just talking about Swampert, I'm simply saying solid walls have been stripped into counters. If someone want to check knock Scizor and lure Latias, they could easily run that specific variant, however rare it is. It's like running hail in gen 5 uu. Abomasnow was banned anyway even through the playstyle was rare, it was still broken. And anything can run a Z-move. So if Swampert can threaten your Latias, what else can the 30 pokemon in UU between coverage moves do to blow through any potential wall. That's the point I wanted to get across.
Edit: I've hated Latias being in the tier for quite some time. The people who liked your post know that very clearly. I believe I commented about it in one of the first posts.
Edit: I've hated Latias being in the tier for quite some time. The people who liked your post know that very clearly. I believe I commented about it in one of the first posts.
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