Jolteon is being suspected tested due to the immense impact it has had on the NU tier since it's reintroduction following the NUBL unbans vote a handful of months ago. With a blistering speed state of 130, it comfortably outspeeds every relevant threat in the metagame outside of Electrode-Hisui and select Choice Scarf users such as Rotom-Mow, Bruxish, Shaymin, and Tauros-Paldea-Blaze. Jolteon's speed and access to a fantastic pivoting move in Volt Switch allows it to take advantage of its most used item; Heavy Duty Boots more than any Pokemon in the tier, by pivoting out of any poor matchup and chipping away at it's counters before they have the opportunity to strike it, all whilst avoiding any passive chip from hazards. With Calm Mind it can quickly boost up its Special Attack and Special Defense against things like a Choice-locked Rotom-Mow, or a passive Pokemon that cannot threaten to KO it, and sweep through teams in the mid to late game. Furthermore, as Jolteon can force a lot of switches and pivot out of them, it works exceptionally well as an enabler of some of the tier's most fearsome breakers including; Hoopa, Goodra, Heracross, and Grimmsnarl, all of whom appreciate being able to safely switch into defensive Pokemon. Although it cannot pivot out of Ground-types, it's most used Tera-types allow it to blast past them, with Tera-Ice threatening to OHKO Pokemon such as Gligar and Sandaconda, and setup Calm Minds on Palossand. Piloswine is undoubtedly the best counter to Jolteon, as it can both prevent it from pivoting completely, and is not bothered by either Tera Ice or Tera Fairy blasts due to its bulk, typing, and Thick Fat ability. However, Piloswine is only a single Pokemon that can reliably prevent this, and will inevitably be worn down by hazards without any access to reliable recovery or Leftovers. Tera-Ice also allows Jolteon to quickly overwhelm Grass-types that may attempt to check it, and has the added bonus of dealing good damage to Goodra. However it does not have the defensive benefits of Tera-Fairy, and thus sees reduced usage nowadays. Tera-Fairy on the other hand allows Jolteon to resist priority Sucker Punches from Grimmsnarl, Toxicroak, and Bombirdier, while still getting good coverage to neutrally hit Ground-types, hit Goodra super-effectively, and grant itself resistances to Scarf Passimian and Scarf Heracross's STAB moves. Jolteon has also exhibited it's ability to dominate and turn around matches in high profile tournaments such as SCL, and has previously been deemed a banworthy Pokemon in the NU metagame for similar reasons. However, this time around Jolteon is a lot more reliant on Terrastalizing to break past the wider pool of Ground-types available in the tier, and the tier admittedly has a wider pool of viable physical Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill it without worrying about Calm Mind boosts. Furthermore, the rise of Sand teams and defensive teams built around the core of Chansey + a bulky Ground-type with a Choice Scarf user in the back have shown that there is adaption available to limit Jolteon's power in a match. Overall, it's presence is a controversially contested one within the tier, and thus the NU Council have deemed it as more than deserving of a public suspect test to determine its fate.
- ***WE ARE USING A NEW METHOD FOR SUSPECT REQS*** Reading this is mandatory for participating in the suspect test. We will be trialing a new method for reqs that does NOT utilize GXE. Instead, the voting requirements are that you achieve an 80% winrate with a minimum of 32 games won. For example, a record of 32 wins to 8 losses is an 80% winrate which totals at 40 games overall, thus you would qualify for reqs with this. A record of 32-0 would also qualify for reqs, and is the minimum amount of games that can be played to qualify. There is NO maximum game limit, so you may take as many games as you need to achieve reqs as long as you arrive at an 80% winrate. For example, a record of 46 wins to 11 losses would also qualify me for reqs, as 80% of 57 is 46 wins.
- You must signup with a newly registered account on Pokemon Showdown! that begins with the appropriate prefix for the suspect test. For this suspect test, the prefix will be NUJS For example, I might signup with the ladder account NUJS etern
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- We will be using the regular NU ladder for this suspect test. We will not be creating a new Suspect Ladder. At the beginning of every battle, there will be an announcement denoting the ongoing suspect with a link to this thread.
- Jolteon will be allowed on the ladder.
- Any form of voting manipulation will result in swift and severe punishment. You are more than welcome to state your argument to as many people as you so please, but do not use any kind of underhanded tactics to get a result you desire. Bribery, blackmail, or any other type of tactic used to sway votes will result in infractions and further discipline.
- Do not attempt to cheat the ladder. We will know if you did not actually achieve voting requisites, so don't do it. Harsh sanctions will be applied. This also includes throwing games to help other people qualify. Play your games normally and fairly.
- The suspect test will last until Tuesday, October 31st @ 11:59pm (GMT-4), and then the voting thread will be posted in the Blind Voting subforum.
Keep this banned; no shot its workable.
Unban; The utility set from this pokemon adds SO MUCH to the tier. Unfortunately, I think the CM and Choice sets are going to end up being too good, like they were before. We have more tools now then we did before but in the end I think Florges will be too strong.
This was already on the outs when it rose last month. Strength sap in a meta with Goodra is just hard to justify. You're recovery is negated and you're giving a very strong Pokemon in the tier an almost free entry.
This mon is going to wreck havoc on the tier. Our hazard control already feels insufficient, and now we will have Spikes+Twave spam everywhere. Beyond the support options, I genuinely believe the setup set will be able to run away with games. We've seen what Bulky setup+tera has done with other pokemon, and seen how potent draining kiss sets can be. Klefki's amazing typing helps it get those first few turns it needs to get the ball rolling.
Snow teams have been waiting for this to come back. This pokemon stole the show last generation and I can see it happening again. Ice/Ground coverage has been showing itself to be incredibly strong recently and I think Sandslash will abuse that quite well. It is notable that it needs Jolly to outspeed Scarf Bruxish/Tauros-Paldea-Blaze, but being able to, unlike Beartic, is huge.
This thing with Roost would have been really neat, unfortunately it doesn't have that, and as a result I don't think it adds much that our other electric types don't already provide.
