time to use absol i seeIt's interesting how the metagame has shifted now that Probopass and Bastiodon have become more common. Rock Blast is becoming common too. Due to all of this, Jynx usage is shot. I've only seen a single one in the past few days!
Substitute users in general are having a hard time with all of the multi-hit moves flying around. Marowak especially, Bonemerang is amazing.
that would be a gimmick, probably still gets at least 2hkoed through +2 SpD and does nothing in return, so... would always rather run leech seed or sleep powder or whatever you're running that over > amnesiaI just realized something: Tangela gets Amnesia. Could this be used to help patch up its flat-out terrible Special Defense, or is it a gimmick?
With a single Amnesia, Eviolite and 252SpD with a Calm Nature, Tangela has a chance of getting 2HKO'd by Gorebyss and Jynx with SR up. Magmortar still 2HKOs it.I just realized something: Tangela gets Amnesia. Could this be used to help patch up its flat-out terrible Special Defense, or is it a gimmick?
Corsola's poor stat distribution and equally bad defensive typing does not seem to lend itself as an effective Screener/Wall. I personally don't think it will work very well but that doesn't mean you can't try it anyway!I'm thinking of trying out Corsola with regenerator and having a moveset of:
Corsola "Tough Coral"
Calm
Light Clay
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Recover
- Scald
Think this could work guys?
In theory it could make the leech seed variant unstoppable, but it's mostly a gimmick, the same as using synthesis on Tangela. Due to regenerator Tangela has no need to stay in on threats it can't handle as it can easily afford to switch about.I just realized something: Tangela gets Amnesia. Could this be used to help patch up its flat-out terrible Special Defense, or is it a gimmick?
It wouldn't make Leech Seed Tangela unstoppable.In theory it could make the leech seed variant unstoppable, but it's mostly a gimmick, the same as using synthesis on Tangela. Due to regenerator Tangela has no need to stay in on threats it can't handle as it can easily afford to switch about.
Sub/Seed/Amnesia with an attack to break subs would be incredibly hard to kill if you could get it behind a sub with a few boosts (not much will break the sub in one hit). In saying that it's not likely you'd pull it off and I wouldn't be trying to set up Amnesia on Tangela so it's still a gimmick. It could potentially annoy the crap out of someone on a team with Toxic Spikes however.It wouldn't make Leech Seed Tangela unstoppable.
1: Grass types with Toxic
2: Criticals
3: Anything with Sub that can set up on it
Well, the Subseeder to use if you want (nearly) infinite substitutes + Toxic Spikes damage is Subseed Exeggutor. 'IF' you can grab a single substitute, Sub + Protect with Sitrus berry means basically you get your health back above 50% even without Leech Seed. I've used that set and while it is a gigantic troll, it's nowhere near broken. Even if that Tangela set works as intended, it probably isn't 'broken.'
Also, Sub / Seed / Amnesia leaves you with a single free moveslot. It's either Giga Drain to avoid Taunt, or Sleep Powder / Toxic / Stun Spore. This way, you are prone to getting set up by a lot of stuff, regardless of what you choose. Mesprit can start killing stuff right away with SubCM, Grass/Poisons still beat you to the ground, Garbodor starts setting up Tspikes which ruins your Tangela and the rest of its team. You even lose to SubSD Leafeon, something you are supposed to 100% counter! I feel that Subseed in itself isn't the greatest strategy in NU because there's so many Grass-types (and/or Poison-types around).