Other Tier National Dex Little Cup

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LC (Little Cup) is a format where players may only use Pokémon that have not yet evolved, are capable of evolution, and are obtainable at level 5 in-game.

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Council
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Flou
MuffinMelody
Charis_Akins
Roldski32

Banlist:

Pokemon

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• Aipom
• Basculin-White-Striped
• Corsola-Galar
• Cutiefly
• Drifloon
• Dunsparce
• Duraludon
• Flittle
• Girafarig
• Gligar
• Meditite
• Misdreavus
• Murkrow
• Porygon
• Qwilfish-Hisui
• Rufflet
• Scraggy
• Scyther
• Sneasel
• Sneasel-Hisui
• Stantler
• Swirlix
• Tangela
• Woobat
• Yanma

Abilities

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• Moody
• Chlorophyll

Items

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• Eevium Z
• King's Rock
• Quick Claw
• Razor Fang

Moves

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• Assist
• Dragon Rage
• Sonicboom
• Baton Pass

Codes

Challenge Code

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/challenge gen9nationaldex @@@ Little Cup, Adjust Level = 5, -Sneasel, -Scyther, -Swirlix, -Tangela, -Gligar, -Corsola-Galar, -Aipom, -Rufflet, -Drifloon, -Cutiefly, -Meditite, -Yanma, -Woobat, -Murkrow, -Misdreavus, -Girafarig, -Flittle, -Dunsparce, -Porygon, -Stantler, -Basculin, -Qwilfish, -Scraggy, -Duraludon, -Eevium Z, -Chlorophyll, +Arena Trap, +Shadow Tag, -Sonicboom, -Dragon Rage

Tournament Code

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Watchlist:
Vulpix-alola
Clamperl

NDLC Discord

 

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Sample Teams

Hisuian Voltorb Balance by TheShowdownHoedown and MuffinMelody


Trapinch Balance by Sciroccoo


LO Voltorb Grass Spam by Charis_Akins


Hyper offense by rarre


Voltturn Hazard Stack by Roldski32


RegenSpam by Flou

 

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Viability Rankings (Last updated 3/4/24)

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S
Mienfoo
Vullaby

S-
Diglett
Pawniard

A+
Abra
Ferroseed
Koffing
Voltorb-hisui

A
Foongus
Gastly
Mareaine
Ponyta
Snivy
Staryu
Timburr

A-
Carvanha
Growlithe-hisui
Mudbray
Onix
Shellder
Spritzee
Tyrunt
Vulpix-alola
Wingull

B+
Clamperl
Doduo
Gothita
Grimer-alola
Grookey
Magnemite
Snubbull
Stunky
Surskit
Trapinch
Vulpix


B
Archen
Dwebble
Magby
Glimmet
Minccino
Zigzagoon

B-
Charmander
Dewpider
Elekid
Frillish
Munchlax
Omanyte
Sandshrew-alola
Toedscool

Below in C & D, these Pokemon are generally considered to have negatives such that they are not considered very competitive choices for your team. However these Pokemon usually have at least one positive quality which makes them usable though nonoptimal. These are generally considered "for fun" but are ranked to indicate their strengths and weaknesses. Please do not spend your energy discussing if a Pokemon in C should actually be in D (or vice versa).

C

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Chespin
Chinchou
Cottonee
Croagunk
Drilbur
Fuecoco
Hippopotas
Houndour
Larvesta
Meowth
Nymble
Pikipek
Ponyta-galar
Pumpkaboo-super
Shellos
Shroodle
Slowpoke
Taillow
Tinkatink
Tirtouga
Torchic
Zorua-hisui

D

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Amaura
Axew
Buizel
Bunnelby
Corphish
Dratini
Farfetch’d-galar
Golett
Kabuto
Lileep
Natu
Numel
Pancham
Quaxly
Riolu
Sandygast
Skrelp
Snover
Trubbish
Wattrel

Visual:

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Speed Tiers:
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[Flou]

Guess I'll be the first one to post, thanks for making this happen, National Dex overlords



I think of the two Mons on the watchlist currently, Clamperl is the one more obviously broken.

One Shell Smash with Screens or Memento support is basically a loss if you don't have priority, and even that can be accounted for with Substitute for Pokemon like Pawniard's Sucker Punch or Protect for Mienfoo's Fake Out. (You can also just Sub on the Mienfoo swapping out if they are continuously sacrificing Pokemon to Fake Out spam...)

Water-types that take on Clamperl are shaky answers or not answers at all. Frillish is generally a poor bring due to being a victim of much of the greatest threats, offensive Staryu (defensive sucks) dies 70% of the time to Surf BEFORE Tera Water, Mareanie is OHKO'd with Tera Water after Rocks. Grasses like Foongus die to Ice Beam (or Tera Water Surf after rocks) and Ferroseed better hope that it stayed healthy enough to eat Ice Beam. Also, this calc:

84 SpA Ferroseed Giga Drain vs. -1 76 HP / 0 SpD Clamperl with an ally's Aurora Veil: 10-13 (47.6 - 61.9%) -- 93.8% chance to 2HKO

lol

I won't even begin to mention Tera Water +2 Surf calcs, because if your typing doesn't resist Surf you die.

With a Clamperl ban, Vulpix-A and Aurora Veils lose one more sweeper option and could make them easier to handle without extensively preparing for them in the builder. I could of course be completely wrong and veils could be broken even without Clamperl, but I think banning one Pokemon as opposed to killing an entire strategy is favorable.

See you all in May for the seasonal