Yep. Who wants to invest time into a setup just to learn it doesn't work?
Pokesav fixes that, though. But a lot of ppl don't have wifi readily accessible.
Pokesav fixes that, though. But a lot of ppl don't have wifi readily accessible.
Honestly, if you feel that "legitimately raising pokemon is a pain in the ass" there are all sorts of ways to go about "raising pokemon" illegitimately. So... argument is kinda invalid.Because legitimately raising pokemon is a pain in the ass. Simulators allow you to make any team without any effort, which is their real draw.
Uhh, yeah, way off topic. :0Honestly, if you feel that "legitimately raising pokemon is a pain in the ass" there are all sorts of ways to go about "raising pokemon" illegitimately. So... argument is kinda invalid.
At this moment I kinda see simulators kinda like piracy. If legitimately playing the game is a pain in the ass, why play the game at all? Just play the simulator. If you don't play the game at all, why bother buying the game?
Hence: Why buy/play pokemon black/white when you can just play the copy for free?
Anyway - off topic - >.>
This is Gen 5, not Gen 4.Uhh, yeah, way off topic. :0
...I'd make a response, but I don't want to possibly also get infracted for talking about that in here. >.> Anyway....
So, Soul Dew is banned / unavailable in BW? :0 Why is that now? I hadn't heard anything about it. I'd like to think that he'd be OU, but if Latias got banned to Ubers WITHOUT Soul Dew, I highly doubt that Latios won't also. Still.... we can dream, right?
Well, as far as sets without Soul Dew go, there's always the old Dual Screen-Memento thing with Light Clay.
clarification regarding Lati@s/Soul Dew.So, Soul Dew is banned / unavailable in BW? :0 Why is that now? I hadn't heard anything about it. I'd like to think that he'd be OU, but if Latias got banned to Ubers WITHOUT Soul Dew, I highly doubt that Latios won't also. Still.... we can dream, right?
Well, as far as sets without Soul Dew go, there's always the old Dual Screen-Memento thing with Light Clay.
Nope.Because legitimately raising pokemon is a pain in the ass. Simulators allow you to make any team without any effort, which is their real draw.
basically what I've been saying as well. Pursuit is nice and all, but tbqh, Lati@s' weakness to one move doesn't put Sazandora anywhere near these two.Nope.
As for latios/latias. SpecsLatios owns like no other. The thing hits like a truck...no a...(trying to think of something witty but can't so I failed there)...well you get the point. It is, however, REALLY hurtful to go up against pursuit users, which are quite common as well. This is where sazandora comes in as it's not pursuit weak (though I still see specsdora as an inferior specslatios).
maybe he is quite Powerful, but atm many things are that and he cant take too much hits as even with 80/80/110 Defenses a lots of things put a nice dent in him.But do you think that Latios will be banned on Smogon? He probably will if he is holding Soul Dew, even if it is available.
Why Surf? Just Dragon and HP Fire is only resisted by Empoleon, Aggron, Bastiodon, and Probopass. Out of those four, Empoleon has the highest usage statistics on Pokémon Online.Latios@Lefties/LO/Haban
EV:252 SpA/252 Spe/4 HP
Nature: Timid
-Clam Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf/T-Bolt
-Recover/HP Fire
you could use less SpA EVs and pump your HP a bit for more bulk, but i dont know how much would be efficient so maybe just run a few calcs to see if its worth it.
This set is cockblocked by Blissey so Psycho Shock might could come too your mind but it gets none use outside of the and gots horrible coverage together with Dragon Pulse, you could use it instead of Recover or HP Fire but then Natorei laughs at you and he is far more common then Bliss for now.
Recover or HP Fire is Nattorei vs. durability and i think HP Fire is the better choice but if you use a more bulky EV Spread it could be cool to use.
Surf is IMO the best option as Dragon/Water is only walled by Empoleon and you wont see him very often and after a few CMs he cant do much too you.
Electric/Dragon isnt bad too and hits Bulky waters SE, but is blocked by some more things and T-Tar will get a Bitch.
Surf also hits T-Tar on the switch harder than Dragon Pulse. While it will never be an ohko, it can take out previously weakened T-Tars, especially if they attempt to pursuit without a Scarf. Heatran and Shandera are incredibly common, and baing able to hit them with Surf is extremely nice.Dragon/Water is resisted by Nattorei and Empoleon. Dragon/Fire is resisted by Heatran. Pick your posion I guess. Although personally I'd go with Dragon/Water and use a Magnezone or Shandera to clear Steels out of the way beforehand.
This is what I meant:Why Surf? Just Dragon and HP Fire is only resisted by Empoleon, Aggron, Bastiodon, and Probopass. Out of those four, Empoleon has the highest usage statistics on Pokémon Online.
If you skip Surf, then you can have a slot for Recover.
You're still wrong. All those are part steel types, which Fire hits for super effective. They all take neutral damage. They may not mind it, but they do not resist Dragon/Fire. The only pokemon that resists Dragon Pulse and HP Fire is heatran.This is what I meant:
Dragon Pulse
HP Fire
Calm Mind
Recover
Only resisted by Empoleon (setup fodder), Aggron, Bastiodon, Probopass, and Heatran.
Surf hits Tyranitar a lot harder than Thunder and my LO one can 2HKO all of the Tyranitar I've seen with it. It also hits Hippowdon harder than any of your other attacks. I haven't used Latios a whole lot on the DW tier, but in the Wi-Fi tier, where there's no DrizzleToed, Sandstorm is the most common playstyle and Surf is a great attack to use in there.Updated OP, removed Soul Dew from the movesets, and added some new movesets that some of you posted. Sorry for the long wait for the revision but I haven't checked up on this topic in a while.
Also, Latios with Surf is debatable for me atm. Since we got Ninetails and Politoad packing auto weather moves, Thunder can outshine surf with it's 30% paralysis though Surf does get a nice boost in the rain that surpasses Thunder.