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OP stolen from Magnemite
The PU ladder is a whacked-up ladder filled with low-ladder players using outclassed or unviable Pokémon or sets such as Slaking and Assault Vest and Power-Up Punch on random Pokémon. This thread strives to end these trends by explaining why these Pokémon or sets are bad or outclassed and which Pokémon or sets can do better in what the other sets try to do.
Here's an example of what to do (taken and edited from a post from the NU edition):
Don't use this:
Slaking @ Choice Band
Ability: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Giga Impact
- Hammer Arm
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
Why it's bad: Sure, Slaking may have stats equivalent to that of Ubers. Sure, its Attack is higher than that of Deoxys-N. So why is Slaking bad? One word: Truant. This is an extremely exploitable ability, as all you have to do is use Protect or predict a move and switch into something that resists it. It gets worn down very easily because of this, and the only way to remove its ability is to use Yamask, and any smart player will not try to use contact moves to get mummified. The worst part about Slaking is that it is massive setup bait because of Truant which can turn the tide away from you.
Use this instead:
Tauros @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe or 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly / Naive Nature
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt
- Rock Slide / Fire Blast / Iron Head
Why it's better: Tauros is less suspicable to Protect shenanigans that stop Slaking in its tracks, allowing it to have more chances of breaking through its opponent. Sheer Force is an excellent ability for Tauros, as it will not take LO recoil damage from moves with secondary effects, thus making it harder to wear down. Better physical Normal-types aren't just limited to Tauros. Purugly has Defiant, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Fake Out, and U-turn, Bouffalant has decent bulk, Dodrio has Flying coverage as well as Knock Off, Sawsbuck does wonders in sun, Ursaring has Guts for a powerful Facade, Kecleon can use AV, Linoone has Belly Drum and ExtremeSpeed, Stoutland is a great sand cleaner, Vigoroth is bulky with Eviolite, and even niche options like Furfrou, Raticate, Bibarel, Fearow, Persian, Dunsparce, Stantler, and Furret have something that gives them greater niches over Slaking.
RULES:
-Generally, you should post about an unviable or outclassed Pokémon if it receives more usage than (more) viable Pokémon, while you should post about sets used by the Pokémon if they show up in the usage statistics of the month before you create your post, or if you frequently see these sets whenever you are on the ladder.
-Don't just bash certain Pokémon, this is meant to be an educational thread.
Archive
OP stolen from Magnemite
Don't Use That, Use This
The PU ladder is a whacked-up ladder filled with low-ladder players using outclassed or unviable Pokémon or sets such as Slaking and Assault Vest and Power-Up Punch on random Pokémon. This thread strives to end these trends by explaining why these Pokémon or sets are bad or outclassed and which Pokémon or sets can do better in what the other sets try to do.
Here's an example of what to do (taken and edited from a post from the NU edition):
Don't use this:
Slaking @ Choice Band
Ability: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Giga Impact
- Hammer Arm
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
Why it's bad: Sure, Slaking may have stats equivalent to that of Ubers. Sure, its Attack is higher than that of Deoxys-N. So why is Slaking bad? One word: Truant. This is an extremely exploitable ability, as all you have to do is use Protect or predict a move and switch into something that resists it. It gets worn down very easily because of this, and the only way to remove its ability is to use Yamask, and any smart player will not try to use contact moves to get mummified. The worst part about Slaking is that it is massive setup bait because of Truant which can turn the tide away from you.
Use this instead:
Tauros @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe or 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly / Naive Nature
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt
- Rock Slide / Fire Blast / Iron Head
Why it's better: Tauros is less suspicable to Protect shenanigans that stop Slaking in its tracks, allowing it to have more chances of breaking through its opponent. Sheer Force is an excellent ability for Tauros, as it will not take LO recoil damage from moves with secondary effects, thus making it harder to wear down. Better physical Normal-types aren't just limited to Tauros. Purugly has Defiant, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Fake Out, and U-turn, Bouffalant has decent bulk, Dodrio has Flying coverage as well as Knock Off, Sawsbuck does wonders in sun, Ursaring has Guts for a powerful Facade, Kecleon can use AV, Linoone has Belly Drum and ExtremeSpeed, Stoutland is a great sand cleaner, Vigoroth is bulky with Eviolite, and even niche options like Furfrou, Raticate, Bibarel, Fearow, Persian, Dunsparce, Stantler, and Furret have something that gives them greater niches over Slaking.
RULES:
-Generally, you should post about an unviable or outclassed Pokémon if it receives more usage than (more) viable Pokémon, while you should post about sets used by the Pokémon if they show up in the usage statistics of the month before you create your post, or if you frequently see these sets whenever you are on the ladder.
-Don't just bash certain Pokémon, this is meant to be an educational thread.
Archive
Use Thick Club if you want to use Marowak
CB Scyther > CB Ninjask
Zebstrika: HP Water > HP Grass
Why Seed Bomb is bad on Gourgeist-S
Stoutland is only good in sand
Frogaider: Life Orb > Choice Scarf
Hippopotas is dependent on Stoutland
Use SmashPass if you want to use Huntail
Do not use AV Stunfisk
Use Defog if you want to use Swanna
Use NP if you want to use Simipour
Pelipper > Lumineon
Sneasel: Low Kick > Brick Break
Avalugg: Specially defensive > Physically defensive
Bastiodon: Do not use attacking moves
Dusknoir: CB > AV
Mightyena: Adamant > Jolly
What not to use on Altaria
Bouffalant: CB > AV
Ditto: Choice Scarf > All
Dodrio > Unfezant
Don't use ChestoRest Relicanth, Use CB Relicanth
CB Scyther > CB Ninjask
Zebstrika: HP Water > HP Grass
Why Seed Bomb is bad on Gourgeist-S
Stoutland is only good in sand
Frogaider: Life Orb > Choice Scarf
Hippopotas is dependent on Stoutland
Use SmashPass if you want to use Huntail
Do not use AV Stunfisk
Use Defog if you want to use Swanna
Use NP if you want to use Simipour
Pelipper > Lumineon
Sneasel: Low Kick > Brick Break
Avalugg: Specially defensive > Physically defensive
Bastiodon: Do not use attacking moves
Dusknoir: CB > AV
Mightyena: Adamant > Jolly
What not to use on Altaria
Bouffalant: CB > AV
Ditto: Choice Scarf > All
Dodrio > Unfezant
Don't use ChestoRest Relicanth, Use CB Relicanth
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