OU Chandelure [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash, Gengar, and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, its ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch, which would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o, Calm Mind Clefable, and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. A Timid nature allows Chandelure to Speed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, as well as outspeeding Jolly Dracovish and Cloyster.

Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teammates like Corviknight, Dragapult, and Rotom-W that can bring it in safely with U-turn or Volt Switch. Strong entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely vulnerable to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can keep Chandelure healthy with Wish throughout the game. Lastly, Chandelure pairs very well with late-game cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful offensive Ghost-type core with Chandelure, as the latter can easily overpower Dragapult's checks such as Mandibuzz, Clefable, and Toxapex, allowing it to ravage the opposing team unopposed.

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Trick / Overheat
move 4: Energy Ball
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Modest

evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe


name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
- Chandelure's amazing offensive typing and astonishing power allows it to serve as a frighteningly powerful wallbreaker. It is important to mention how it faces stiff competition from other Ghost-types like Dragapult and Aegislash but that it differentiates itself from them thanks to its ability to come in on Fairy-types like Clefable and Sylveon. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Toxapex, and Tyranitar Ferrothorn and Toxapex aren't great examples since they generally don't want to come in on Chandelure anyway, mention Kommo-o instead. in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. If running Flamethrower, Overheat is a viable alternative to Trick as it allows Chandelure to perform a last resort burst of damage before going down. Fire Blast is generally the better choice over Flamethrower since as a wallbreaker Chandelure wants to do as much damage as possible to potential switch-ins. I don't think Overheat is worth a mention either since Trick is important to cripple switch-ins like Kommo-o. Energy Ball is mostly filler, but it does allow Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch. Energy Ball is not really filler, it's actually quite a useful coverage move. Talk about it before Trick too. Memento can fill either the third or fourth slot to allow Chandelure to generate offensive momentum and turn an opposing Pokemon into set up fodder. Memento is not worth a mention. A Modest nature is preferred for extra power as Timid doesn't reach any particularly notable benchmarks. I think Timid's the better option because Chandelure doesn't want to be outsped by other base 80s like Togekiss and Mamoswine, while outspeeding Jolly Dracovish, Cloyster, and Bisharp (Trick circumvents Sucker Punch and cripples it) is a nice plus; you still 2HKO Toxapex with Timid Shadow Ball after all. Modest is still a good option for extra power though.

Split your text up into two paragraphs so the reader has an easier time finding what they're looking for.

Chandelure pairs very well with late game cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Spam core with Chandelure. Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teamates that can bring it in safely with U-Turn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned Dragapult, and Rotom Wash are fine choices. Strong hazard control is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Mantine are good choices for more balanced teams, while Excadrill and the Rotom formes can work for more offensive teams. Chandelure also can be easily revenge killed by extremely dangerous offensive Pokemon such as Dragapult, Excadrill, and Hydreigon. Defensive pivots such as Toxapex, Clefable, and Corviknight can pivot into offensive Pokemon to protect Chandelure. Wish support from Fairy-types like Clefable and Sylveon is definitely worth mentioning since Chandelure is susceptible to being worn down throughout the game, and they also check Hydreigon and Kommo-o which Chandelure struggles with.

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Good job so far. I'd like to take another look once you've implemented this.
 

Ruft

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Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch who would otherwise counter Chandelure.
They still wouldn't be counters since they're still crippled by Trick, call them checks instead or leave that part of the sentence out. Switch these two sentences too. 1/2 when you've done that, good job.
 
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They still wouldn't be counters since they're still crippled by Trick, call them checks instead or leave that part of the sentence out. Switch these two sentences too. 1/2 when you've done that, good job.
Implemented, thank you! Ready for the next check.
Edit: If my understanding of the writing process is correct, there are three quality control checks, so I changed the thread title.
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, Chandelure's ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and the ability to beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. I would like for you to explain why Fire Blast is prefered to the consistency of Flamethrower. Reliably 2HKOing Mandibuzz is huge, and something the reader should be made aware of. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch who would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. I would specifically like to see a mention of Calm Mind Clefable here. They can be a little greedy against Chandelure and Trick can shut them down for the rest of the game.
Both Timid and Modest have their own merits. Timid allows Chandelure to speed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, while outspeeding Jolly Dracovish, Cloyster, and Bisharp. Bisharp will always use Sucker Punch, it's not a relevant benchmark. If this is not deemed needed, Modest is viable for the noticeable power boost. Are there any notable calcs that you can only attain with a Modest nature? If there is, note a few of those. If there's not, remove this entirely.

Chandelure pairs very well with late game cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Spam core with Chandelure. Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teamates that can bring it in safely with U-Turn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned Dragapult, and Rotom Wash are fine choices. Strong hazard control is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Mantine Excadrill are good choices for more balanced teams, while Excadrill and the Rotom formes can work for more offensive teams. There is no need to make a distinction here. Excadrill and Rotom-A are mostly seen on bulky offensive and balanced teams, specifying that they're useful for offensive teams makes no sense. I would prefer Excadrill to Mantine as an example because it's just more relevant. Chandelure also can be easily revenge killed by extremely dangerous offensive Pokemon such as Dragapult, Excadrill, and Hydreigon. Defensive pivots such as Toxapex, Clefable, and Corviknight can pivot into offensive Pokemon to protect Chandelure. This is not particularly notable and this paragraph's too long as is. Lastly, Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can help Chandelure with Wish to keep it alive throughout the game.

This second paragraph is rather unfocused and that is partly due to how unorganized it is. You should order it as follows: pivots > entry hazard removal > Fairy-types > late-game cleaners.

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I would like to take another look once this is implemented.
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, Chandelure's ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and the ability to beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch who would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o, Calm Mind Clefable, and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak.
A Timid nature allows Chandelure to speed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, while outspeeding Jolly Dracovish, and Cloyster.
Strong hazard control is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill are great choices. Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can help Chandelure with Wish to keep it alive throughout the game. Lastly, Chandelure pairs very well with late game cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Spam core with Chandelure. A little more depth to this would be useful; Chandelure can break past Mandibuzz for Dragapult. Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teamates that can bring it in safely with U-Turn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned Dragapult, and Rotom Wash are fine choices. Pivots should be the first mentions.
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You need to fix some of the formatting and fill in the credits. Good job, 2/2.
 

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash, Gengar, and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, Chandelure's ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and the ability to beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch,(AC) who which (It is preferred to stick with genderless pronouns when referring to Pokemon) would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o, Calm Mind Clefable, and Tyranitar,(AC) in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. A Timid nature allows Chandelure to sSpeed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, while as well as (I would avoid using "while" as a conjunction, in this case I opted for "as well as" because it usually places more emphasis on the second part of the sentence, as in "X as well as Y = not only Y but also X") outspeeding Jolly Dracovish,(RC) and Cloyster. Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teammates that can bring it in safely with U-Tturn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned aforementioned Dragapult, and Rotom-Wash(AH) are fine choices. Strong hazard control is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill are great choices. Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can help Chandelure with Wish to keep Chandelure it alive with Wish throughout the game. Lastly, Chandelure pairs very well with late-game(AH) cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Sspam core with Chandelure, as Chandelure the latter (I'd personally avoid being redundant with Chandelure's name) can easily overpower Dragapult's checks such as Mandibuzz, Clefable, and Toxapex, allowing Dragapult to ravage the opposing team unopposed.
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- Written by: [[Candle Head, 503914]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash, Gengar, and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, Chandelure's its ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and the ability to beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch,(AC) who which (It is preferred to stick with genderless pronouns when referring to Pokemon it's not just preferred; it's required) would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o, Calm Mind Clefable, and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. A Timid nature allows Chandelure to sSpeed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, while as well as (I would avoid using "while" as a conjunction, in this case I opted for "as well as" because it usually places more emphasis on the second part of the sentence, as in "X as well as Y = not only Y but also X" "while" would've been fine here if you just removed the comma before it) outspeeding Jolly Dracovish,(RC) and Cloyster.

Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teammates like Corviknight, Dragapult, and Rotom-W that can bring it in safely with U-Tturn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned Dragapult, and Rotom Wash are fine choices. Strong entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone vulnerable to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill are great choices. Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can help Chandelure with Wish to keep it alive Chandelure healthy with Wish throughout the game. Lastly, Chandelure pairs very well with late-game(AH) cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Spam offensive Ghost-type core with Chandelure, as Chandelure the latter (I'd personally avoid being redundant with Chandelure's name yea this works; you can also just say "it can easily overpower Dragapult's checks") can easily overpower Dragapult's checks such as Mandibuzz, Clefable, and Toxapex, allowing Dragapult it to ravage the opposing team unopposed.
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- Written by: [[Candle Head, 503914]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

Milak feel free to contact me here or on Discord if you have further questions. I removed any amedits that I disagreed with. gp 1/1 once done
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Spd / 252 Spe 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
While Chandelure does face heavy competition from Aegislash, Gengar, and Dragapult as a Ghost-type wallbreaker, Chandelure's its ability to safely come in on Fairy-types such as Clefable and Sylveon and the ability to beat Mandibuzz on its own gives it a viable niche. Energy Ball allows Chandelure to smack Gastrodon and Tyranitar on the switch,(AC) who which (It is preferred to stick with genderless pronouns when referring to Pokemon it's not just preferred; it's required) would otherwise check Chandelure. Trick enables Chandelure to cripple defensive Pokemon such as Kommo-o, Calm Mind Clefable, and Tyranitar in the event that it is no longer needed to wallbreak. A Timid nature allows Chandelure to sSpeed tie with Mamoswine and Togekiss, while as well as (I would avoid using "while" as a conjunction, in this case I opted for "as well as" because it usually places more emphasis on the second part of the sentence, as in "X as well as Y = not only Y but also X" "while" would've been fine here if you just removed the comma before it) outspeeding Jolly Dracovish,(RC) and Cloyster.

Due to Chandelure's overall abysmal bulk, it appreciates teammates like Corviknight, Dragapult, and Rotom-W that can bring it in safely with U-Tturn or Volt Switch. Corviknight, the afromentioned Dragapult, and Rotom Wash are fine choices. Strong entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill is mandatory when using Chandelure, as it is extremely prone vulnerable to being worn down via entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Mandibuzz, Corviknight, and Excadrill are great choices. Fairy-types such as Sylveon and Clefable can check Hydreigon and Kommo-o, both of which Chandelure struggles with. In addition, Clefable and Sylveon can help Chandelure with Wish to keep it alive Chandelure healthy with Wish throughout the game. Lastly, Chandelure pairs very well with late-game(AH) cleaners such as Dragapult, Choice Scarf Keldeo, and Zeraora. Dragapult in particular can form an extremely powerful Ghost Spam offensive Ghost-type core with Chandelure, as Chandelure the latter (I'd personally avoid being redundant with Chandelure's name yea this works; you can also just say "it can easily overpower Dragapult's checks") can easily overpower Dragapult's checks such as Mandibuzz, Clefable, and Toxapex, allowing Dragapult it to ravage the opposing team unopposed.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Candle Head, 503914]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

Milak feel free to contact me here or on Discord if you have further questions. I removed any amedits that I disagreed with. gp 1/1 once done
Implemented, thank you! This analysis is done now. Thank your a wonderful experience everyone, I'll be sure to contribute more to this great website!
 
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