Prompted by a convo with Birkal
Hey all,
After an interesting discussion about the Prevo name thread that led to us (before the later votes) having a tie situation, I wanted to just make sure we are OK with the original Tie Breaking rules we have in place.
The last time this was discussed was nearly 10 years ago in this thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/policy-review-tiebreaking-procedure.48108/ and it ended with the following options:
With the new updates to polling methods (such as using ranked pairs etc), are we still OK with using the same Tie Break rules we have used in the past? For example, in an RP vote, all three options can potentially have the same number of wins/losses when placed against each other, or two options can have two wins a piece due to the way vote ties work (read up on Ranked Paired voting for that one, it took me a while to get my head around). In this instance, how do we determine a winner? I would also like to add the word: "Relevant" to the above, as it could be argued that "previous poll" might not be related to the topic at hand...
As an example, before the "extra" votes in the Prevo name thread, we had a two way tie with two names, where the third name had more votes in the previous round. It took a bit to work out what we should do going forwards, as there were different interpretations to what the votes were showing us. This also starts to lead into a conversation of "How many rounds should a poll go too?" but that is more than likely a different discussion.
If we are perfectly fine with the above, nothing needs to change at all, but I thought it would be worth opening it up to the floor to make sure everyone is still okay with the status quo and ratify it to be more "Official" in the age of TLT and different voting methods.
Hey all,
After an interesting discussion about the Prevo name thread that led to us (before the later votes) having a tie situation, I wanted to just make sure we are OK with the original Tie Breaking rules we have in place.
The last time this was discussed was nearly 10 years ago in this thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/policy-review-tiebreaking-procedure.48108/ and it ended with the following options:
This is echoed on our Process rules page here: http://www.smogon.com/cap/process/process_rules (Which also needs updating due to the addition of new ways to vote).Conclusion:
In the case of a tie vote, the following tiebreakers will be used to determine a winner:
1) The number of votes recieved in the single most recent previous poll
2) The sum total of all votes accumulated in all previous polls
3) Topic/Section leader choice
With the new updates to polling methods (such as using ranked pairs etc), are we still OK with using the same Tie Break rules we have used in the past? For example, in an RP vote, all three options can potentially have the same number of wins/losses when placed against each other, or two options can have two wins a piece due to the way vote ties work (read up on Ranked Paired voting for that one, it took me a while to get my head around). In this instance, how do we determine a winner? I would also like to add the word: "Relevant" to the above, as it could be argued that "previous poll" might not be related to the topic at hand...
As an example, before the "extra" votes in the Prevo name thread, we had a two way tie with two names, where the third name had more votes in the previous round. It took a bit to work out what we should do going forwards, as there were different interpretations to what the votes were showing us. This also starts to lead into a conversation of "How many rounds should a poll go too?" but that is more than likely a different discussion.
If we are perfectly fine with the above, nothing needs to change at all, but I thought it would be worth opening it up to the floor to make sure everyone is still okay with the status quo and ratify it to be more "Official" in the age of TLT and different voting methods.