Done Adding icons to CAP sprite submissions

[Quanyails]

Approved by Sunfished.

Since the advent of Let's Go, the mini sprite icons used for each Pokemon have gotten quite sizeable, to the point that I don't feel comfortable leaving them as afterthoughts done outside of the main process. I think it makes the most sense to add them to sprite submissions!

Here's what the updated opening post for Sprite Submissions would look like:

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General Sprite Rules

• Sprites should be inspired by the winning designs from the Art Poll. It does not need to be an exact rendition of every detail of the designs; "artistic license" is granted to all spriters. However, drastic deviation from the selected art designs is discouraged.
• All sprites must have a complete, unbroken, distinguishable outline. It does not need to be a black outline, but it must be clearly distinguishable from the adjacent interior colors of the sprite.
• No action effects, move effects, environment effects or additional objects can be rendered on or around the Pokemon.
• Sprites must be in PNG format.
• Use transparent backgrounds.
• All sprites must be scratch sprites that are completely original works by the spriter. Fusions of other sprites or pixel-overs of other artist's lineart (including the main design) are not allowed.
• Do not alter, fuse, recolor or otherwise modify another spriter's submission unless the original artist explicitly gives permission.

Main Sprite Rules

• Main sprites must contain a minimum of two (2) sprites - front and back. If the winning design has supporting art with gender differences, spriters may choose to include those gender differences (Male and Female versions of each), for a total of 4 sprites. Gender differences are NOT required. Spriters cannot create new gender differences.
• All sprites (front and back) can have a maximum size of 96x96.
• All sprites (front and back) must use the same color palette.
• All sprites (front and back) must use roughly the same size and pose when compared to each other.

Icon Sprite Rules

• The sprite can have a maximum size of 68x56.
• The outline enclosing the sprite must be pure black (#000000).
• The outline inside the sprite should be partially #424242.

Final Submission Post

All spriters must make a final submission post conforming to the sprite rules (listed above) and the following:

• The post must have "Final Submission" (in bold) as the first line, with the sprites at the top, and any additional description or comments (if applicable) below them.
• Final submissions must contain one sprite sheet for Main Sprites and/or one sprite sheet for the Icon Sprite. You do not need to submit both Main Sprites and Icon Sprites.
• Please do not submit separate images for both front and back Main Sprites. One "cutsheet" makes it easier for mods to track submissions and ensure each complete set of sprites stay intact.
• The final submission image must be hosted on a reliable image hosting service (such as Imgur). Do not use the forum's 'Drop/upload image' feature. Do not use the 'Attach a photo' tool on messaging apps (e.g. Discord). Do not use Iaza or Ezimba.
• Only make one (1) final submission post.

Advice for Spriters

• Compare your sprites against other Pokemon sprites to make sure your sprites match the in-game sprites in size and style.
  • Gen. V front sprites
  • Gen. V back sprites
  • Gen. VIII icons
• Please look at your transparent sprites against different colored backgrounds, not just white. In Pokémon Showdown, the sprite will be displayed on multiple background colors in battle.
• We recommend you use no more than 16 colors for your sprites' palette. This limit may be broken for complex designs.

Let me know what people think about making this change. :) Feedback from other spriters is especially appreciated!

 

[MrDollSteak]

I think this is a great change! I think it makes sense to be part of the normal sprite process from now on.

In the mean time as part of the general updates for Gen 8 process it might be good to have some seperate threads for people to go back over and update the icons, either with a voting phase or as part of a first in first served situation?

 

[DougJustDoug]

I agree with this. I thought about adding icons to sprite submissions many years ago, but ultimately we decided they were small enough that there really was not sufficient differentiation to warrant it. But agreed, that the icons are getting bigger and bigger to the point now where they really are sprites unto themselves. Making sprites submissions into Front, Back, and Icon just makes sense.

 

[Quanyails]

Approved by DougJustDoug + Sunfished + Quanyails.

Feedback given by QxC which I will incorporate into the OP:

[10:22 PM] Tomomon: "Compare your sprites against other Pokemon sprites to make sure your sprites match the in-game sprites in size and style."
[10:23 PM] Tomomon: I think it'll be helpful to have a link for where to get the in game pokemon sprites

I will link Pokemon Showdown!'s Gen. V sprites directory + Gen. VIII icon sheet in the proposed OP.

In the mean time as part of the general updates for Gen 8 process it might be good to have some seperate threads for people to go back over and update the icons, either with a voting phase or as part of a first in first served situation?

We'll be working with MrDollSteak on creating this thread!

This thread is working under the assumption that we will be using Gen. VIII-style icons on Pokemon Showdown. (Check with Marty as PS! stabilizes for Gen. VIII). If we end up not using new-style icons, I'll chat with the other mods about if we want to make changes to the old-style icons process.