It's been 1 month since the council decided to quickban Marshadow and we have 2 more months until Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon is released. Recently Whammerist suggested that we unban Deoxys to "save" the metagame. But well, I have a better suggestion.
UNBAN MARSHADOW
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I bet that after seeing this you'll be like "dude wtf is wrong with you Marshadow is broken af"
And I'll remind you that Kyurem-Black is still a thing.But we are not here to talk about how broken Kyurem-Black is that's a post for later.
Rather, I am here to get Marshadow unbanned.
First of all, why was it even banned? Yeah I get it's a good wallbreaker so and? Let me get you some counters for it.
Tapu Koko
Tapu Fini
Altaria-Mega
Celesteela
Diancie/Diancie-Mega
Landorus-Therian
Lopunny-Mega
Mawile-Mega
Mimikyu
Swampert-Mega
Scizor-Mega
Talonflame
and more...
Secondly, Marshadow's decent speed and attack stats make it able to beat sleep abusers such as Jumpluff and Mega Gengar that are considered unhealthy by many.
Moreover, it beats Kyurem-Black.
Lastly, I am against the action of quickbanning Marshadow or anything, because it should be decided by the players whether a pokemon is broken or not.
Yeah that wasn't a long post.
Tapu Koko: I'll give you this one.
Tapu Fini: I'll also give you this one.
Altaria-Mega: 252+ Atk Pixilate Altaria-Mega Return vs. +1 0 HP / 120 Def Marshadow: 270-320 (84.1 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 136 Atk Marshadow Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Altaria-Mega: 390-460 (110.1 - 129.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Edit: Giga Impact/Hyper Beam exist. Fricc, you got me.
Celesteela: 252 Atk Marshadow Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 135-160 (33.9 - 40.2%) -- 41% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Marshadow Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 219-258 (55 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Celesteela Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Marshadow: 186-222 (57.9 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
In short, the only way Celesteela wins all the time is with Specs or something. Leech Seed + Protect gets cucked by Bulk Up.
Diancie: 252 Atk Marshadow Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie: 219-258 (90.8 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
And no, bulky regular Diancie is bad.
Landorus-Therian: Not gonna go into logistics, but Will-O Marsh won unless it was Flyinium, which is suboptimal, and was only used because Marsh was still around.
Lopunny-Mega: Loses to bulkier Marshadows unless Sub + Flail.
Mawile-Mega: You got me on this one, unless you run into that shitty Roseli Berry bait set that was running around.
Mimikyu: Cursekyu loses to Will-O, and SD Mimikyu has no relevance at all anymore.
Mega Swampert: Still gets fricced in some scenarios by Bulk Up + Will-o, I think. Feel free to prove me wrong!
Scizor-Mega: Again, Will-o Bulk Up.
Talonflame: ok, but...
>talonflame
Also, I see some people saying "If Deoxys-N can be unbanned, why not Marshadow?" Thing is, Deoxys isn't anywhere NEAR as bad as Marshadow, or even something like Kyurem-Black, for a handful of reasons:
1. It can't cheese past it's counters like those two can. You see, a lot of the Marsh/Kyub lure sets utilize those mons' decent bulk, such as Roseli Berry/Bulk Up on Marsh and Weakness Policy on Kyub. Deoxys does not have that. It's so bad, Iron Defense/Amnesia cannot save it.
2. Bad offensive typing. Ghost/Fighting is probably the best offensive typing in the game. Dragon/Ice, coupled with 100 BP Physical Electric coverage, is also super solid. Pure Psychic, on the other hand, is just bad.
3. "But what about it's coverage movepool?" For one, most of Deoxys' "amazing coverage" is not even that useful. Like, what are you gonna do with Poison Jab and Drain Punch? Also, as I showed in an earlier post, it isn't even that strong anyway. If it had Hypnosis, a fairly common status move for Psychic types, I would say "no, keep it banned", at least until a potential Sleep banned. But once again, Deo-N does not have that.
So yeah. Marshadow was FAR more unhealthy for the meta than Deoxys-N will ever be.
#FreeMrNoodle
P.S. Could you pls list those other supposed counters kthx
P.S.S. Sorry if the end seemed rushed I have to piss lol and I don't wanna leave my school PC unattended or bring it into the digusting school bathrooms