What’s another way you’d decide whether or not claiming scum is indicative of scumminess? Maybe you’d think about motivation. Last game we had that big last minute push to lynch jalmont, the motivation was to remove someone who had good reads from the game, right? So what’s the motivation for me with a town alignment to claim scum? What’s the motivation for me as scum?
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NOC 11p White Flag Thread
- Thread starter Nuxl
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It doesn't change your role pm outcome, but it doesn't change the fact that you are trolling as either alignment.
You have basically destroyed your end game equity nearly 6 pages in. No matter how you play the next 100 pages this bit is going to come up in end game and regardless of whether you are scum or not will likely become a critical factor.
You have basically destroyed your end game equity nearly 6 pages in. No matter how you play the next 100 pages this bit is going to come up in end game and regardless of whether you are scum or not will likely become a critical factor.
What about more ways of deciding whether an action is scummy or not? Well, one way I think about mafia is that on the player level, you’re really trying to observe duress. Because you have one group of people who really have nothing to hide and are trying to solve a puzzle together, and another group who are lying. People don’t like lying. Nobody likes lying. Even people who are good at lying don’t like it.
So people do stupid shit when they lie. They kind of freak out sometimes (flailing), they deflect, because they know that they’re in the wrong
so maybe one way of thinking about the alignment indicativeness of claiming scum is to think about whether or not these actions are symptomatic of duress
So people do stupid shit when they lie. They kind of freak out sometimes (flailing), they deflect, because they know that they’re in the wrong
so maybe one way of thinking about the alignment indicativeness of claiming scum is to think about whether or not these actions are symptomatic of duress
These are all good ways of thinking about how a persons action matches to a persons alignment
A bad way of thinking about this problem is taking a super simple level 1 surface analysis of words. I’m scum. You think I’m telling you the truth? Everyone else will tell you that they’re town. Are they telling the truth?
of course not! It’s part of the game. Words are just signals, they don’t mean anything by themselves. I could just as easily tell you that I’m a camel. Will you believe that also?
that’s why I say you’re bad
it was a very scientific conclusion
A bad way of thinking about this problem is taking a super simple level 1 surface analysis of words. I’m scum. You think I’m telling you the truth? Everyone else will tell you that they’re town. Are they telling the truth?
of course not! It’s part of the game. Words are just signals, they don’t mean anything by themselves. I could just as easily tell you that I’m a camel. Will you believe that also?
that’s why I say you’re bad
it was a very scientific conclusion
I'm aware of the basics of how to read people.
As town you do this to get a read on somebody via their reaction. As scum you do it to say that you could do it and still win.
Either way the tradeoff of losing endgame equity and likely being lynched outweighs either reward, and makes this a troll play.
As town you do this to get a read on somebody via their reaction. As scum you do it to say that you could do it and still win.
Either way the tradeoff of losing endgame equity and likely being lynched outweighs either reward, and makes this a troll play.
Clearly not, from what I’ve seen these two pages
If last game hadn't happend I'd be townreading hal rn
Jalmont is different from other games but it is probably a towny change, so long as he keeps up the activity and tries solve
MewtwoHidden do you think trolling is scummy?
Ok he kinda answered the question you don't have to answer that anymore
M2h is town
M2h: I'm gonna be concise this game
Also m2h: I'm gonna spend 3 pages complaining to hal about something nai
Also m2h: I'm gonna spend 3 pages complaining to hal about something nai
why are we giving apricity the benefit of the doubt? he tripled down on his scum claim
as for his reason? how should anyone know?
could be scum puffed up trying to use a psychological maneuver aka town thinking that scum wouldn't reveal like that
if he's town he's only confusing other town and plays on mafia's side
my vote stays
as for his reason? how should anyone know?
could be scum puffed up trying to use a psychological maneuver aka town thinking that scum wouldn't reveal like that
if he's town he's only confusing other town and plays on mafia's side
my vote stays
meta is for people that have experience with you
I'm not playing your game
you're BAMBOOZLING the rest of town in trying to get some sort of tension between you and Mew
it's like you're doing this for only a few peeps, to make them sweat or discover you
I take your WORD AT FACE VALUE, scum
I have a feeling I'm going to mislynch clarinet again
U-Turn Out are you scum ? think fast
In the one game I remember with M2H scum, M2H and Former powerscummed.
Hal is jester. There is no jester role in white flag as far as I'm aware and yet he's managed to roll it.
Hi, just finished dinner.
M2H wants to play "conservative" and tries to do so, but eventually seems set on alpacity being scum and jalmont being town. Seems slightly towny because if you claim to want to play like that as mafia I would assume you want to stay consistent with your playstyle yet he chooses to engage w/ alpacity (which seems genuine bc of personal/playstyle issues). (also, alpacity mentioned freaking out/deflecting as scum somewhere on this page, I disagree)
Yeah I played a couple of NOCs 3-4 years ago on this site. I think the only one where I really tried was Fire + Ice mafia though. Haven't played much else.
I don't get.
M2H wants to play "conservative" and tries to do so, but eventually seems set on alpacity being scum and jalmont being town. Seems slightly towny because if you claim to want to play like that as mafia I would assume you want to stay consistent with your playstyle yet he chooses to engage w/ alpacity (which seems genuine bc of personal/playstyle issues). (also, alpacity mentioned freaking out/deflecting as scum somewhere on this page, I disagree)
what does this mean
they bullied town into submission