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to B- or C+ While it retains its good matchup against Weavile HO and can basically always switch into Yveltal, it just performs so poorly against team structures other than that for a B mon and was completely irrelevant in SCL. It just feels like a waste of a team slot way too often and felt...

In pure BW OU fashion, it is an arguably broken mon that isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Join the club

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Trying to set up a sweep without a near-guaranteed way to outspeed a healthy Regieleki or remove it prior isn't a very good play

I don't think the meta has shifted in a way that benefits Regieleki at all and think it could even drop to C tbh. It's not revenge killing much of anything with a mandatory volt resist on any serious opponent and the resurgence of the grounds with reliable recovery (mainly Gastrodon but Hippo is...

I think Calyrex-S was honestly just a scapegoat for the many many.... many many many problems with this gen's Ubers and as a mon on its own not a whole lot stands out as AG worthy. The same person that posted a copium image was also saying a while back that having to run Yveltal made the mon...

How about we compromise and root for Montreal

Would you care to explain how banning gems will make the tier worse? How is it stifling creativity when the best way to handle gem spam HO is to run the most restrictive archetype in the tier in rain, or is this just concern trolling. I'm leaning towards the latter because it's pretty...

I'm a little concerned about all of the dubious analogies and comparisons being made from other pokemon in previous generations without much analysis of the things CalyS does in tournaments or how its checks actually aim to deal with it. Even moreso that some people are taking that as their...

I'm assuming you understand that a mon entering a tier is a lot different than a mon leaving a tier, you have reasonable recourse for the former whereas when a mon leaves one.... well... And yeah, this is a normal part of the tiering system but that's exactly why rises weren't frozen in 2021...

I think this is a bit disingenuous honestly and reads like you haven't really engaged with arguments both for or against banning Calyrex. Kyogre I kind of agree with but I don't want to derail the thread so oop. Xerneas is not worse, it's far more limited in terms of breaking past Necrozma than...

SS Ubers is not really a salvageable tier with or without Calyrex-S, so I think that instead of trying to bring in Ubers' historically inconsistent and vague tiering policy about whether something like CalyS is truly suspect worthy, more of the anti-ban posts should frame it more on the traits...

How does this team deal with a well-played SpDef Gastrodon?

I think that it's a problem that could be solved by more frequent updates of the actual OU main site and further incorporating the viability rankings into places more people can see. There will always be non OU mons that are surprisingly splashable and potent, and I don't think that lower tiers...

I feel vindicated that Lele and Zapdos rose to A+, they've felt like A+ mons to me for a while (and Zapdos' rise should've happened earlier since its reasoning has kinda been the case all year but it's okay no hard feelings teehee) but the rise of LeleShifu archetypes is at least a stronger...

You can list flaws of a pokemon and make it sound bad without even addressing how metagame trends and top threats+ teams deal with it. You yourself have said you aren't even a spectator so why bother? What are common (and good) mons that run body press and can switch into Ttar and beat it? Its...

Pexatox :Toxapex:

Other than the fact that Weavile rarely gets knocked off and could end up pickpocketing an item it really doesn't want, Pressure can let SD Weav pressure stall Hazes and scout stuff like Scarf Lele if the Pressure activates after Psychic Surge. FWIW both abilities aren't particularly great on...

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Basically every move on SD has a pretty big opportunity cost in not running, but I find ice shard possibly the most non negotiable, it feels like the main reason you run Weavile over other SD users because strong STAB ice priority combined with everything else that's been talked to death about...