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I said a lot, not every single one (and of the ones you mentioned amonguss is still widely used even after HA incineroar so i'm not completely fond of dropping it).

Tbh a lot of those pokemon would have been dropped even without incineroar because they couldn't compete (marowak and ninetales just to name a few). I actually don't think incineroar should be S despite having a lot of tools and I still see a lot of merit in using Landorus over the big cat, but...

Maybe you should add Assault Vest as a potential good item, i'm finding it very strong atm

I disagree with some of those (not that it matters but still...). Tyranitar: Should remain in where it is. If scarfed it's pretty easy to lock in a move and playing it around. If not scarfed it get outspeeds by almost everything and usually dies. As someone before me said, i think it's just a...

I was pointing that that if you want to change something based solely on results you should consider more than a single tournament (i still think it's not a so great idea tbh).

I don't think we should do sweeping changes based solely on the results of a single tournament (Kanga had totally dominated both japan and italian nationalsand it's still the most popular pokemon on BS).

First of all, the whole argument clefairy + salamence lead is not so solid because its an unreliable lead that can't be done so often because competitive/defiant users are always a threat, and usually even the majority of steel type pokemon can take care of them pretty easily (no stabbed/boosted...

What i meant with ghosts with WoW mean that they are the only one that will totally wall kanga, the others you mentioned will still take a beating. Salamence is always walled by something (usually very common), depending on what he runs. Kangaskhan has almost always ways to beat her counters...

Rotom (especially H), thundurus and zapdos will always check pretty easily salamence and then proceed to OHKO or cripple it then there are the others you mentioned. Tbh i don't really think salamence deserves to be S, imho people are just too paranoid when facing him. Kang on the other hand is...

I still haven't seen a special mega salamence do something like that because special mega salamence is just weak. Hyper voice does meaningful damage only to these weak (return and double edge do still a lot of damage even neutral). The real threat of salamence is its unpredictability.

And still Mega kanga can still win easily win 1v2, something that only lando with a lucky streak of flinch can do.

No bulky water likes to take a zen headbutt and these bulky water can only hope for a scald burn. Meanwhile they can straght out kill mega Salamence with ice beam, so? The only true good checks to Metagross are Heatran, Aegislash and Bisharp (it still takes almost half HP with an Iron Head)...

Tbh if charizard is a little damaged it gets KOed by a zen headbutt.

Ludicolo is used more as a bulky special tank than a sweeper and does this job darn well.

Speaking of pokemon not A+ i still wonder wht amoonguss is there. I mean, it's still a great redirectioner but it get shat on by a lot of common pokemon ontroduced with oras other that its old counters. If you evs your amoongus to not be OHKOed by physical attacks like Zen Headbutt from...

I think normal Blaziken should rise to B or B+ I'm using it just now with great success. A mixed life orb set can basically outspeeds and OHKO Aegislash, Amoongus, Kangaskhan, Not AV Landorus-T, Metagross, Not bulky Mega Salamence, Hydreigon, Terrakion, Bisharp and probably more I don't remember...

This and I still think normal metagross should be placed somewhere around C/C+

I think Ludi should always be a little higher than poli. People use Toed only for its ability instead Ludicolo can serve as a great special tank or a rain counter (or both). And while M-Venu is really cool but I noticed that gets walled or demolished by so many things (every steel type...

I think blaziken forces your opponent to play mind games, like bisharp wth sucker punch (not as powerful as bisharp ofc). If you think he's gonna protect and he doesn't you'll probably lose one of your pokemon. The mixed set Superpower/Overheat/Protect/??? is really effective and should not be...

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