Discussion #2
(Dark) B--->A
(Water) A--->B
(Steel) B--->A
(Dragon) B--->A
(Fighting) S--->A
Discussion #1 Change(s)
(Psyshic) A-->B - Has such a high opportunity cost and is not the greatest mega on Psyshic
(Psyshic) B--->A- Good Stealth Rocker and good fairy check. It also can run Choice Scarf and has Healing Wish
(Flying) A--->B Same reason as Gallade but not being able to use incarnate form
(Bug) Stays B- Way too controversial to change
(Fire) B--->A- B was placeholder Rank and now A seems nice seeing how it has fit into the metagame
Other Change(s)
(Grass) Unranked--->C- It's not that bad has Wil-o-Wisp and can block Rapid Spins it's alright
(Ice) D--->C- It's a decent suicide lead and summons hail
(Ice) C--->B- Both Megas on Ice should be same rank
(Ice) D--->C Was a change before just didn't get applied
(Bug) Unranked--->C- Durant is fast and can pick off some threats Omega's post says it all
Houndoom I'm very torn on. Yea, it's got a pretty good speed tier and helps tremendously vs Bug, but the main things that bug me are its ability (which is completely useless), its weakness to SR, and it's not incredibly strong to start until you NP (yea 140 Special Attack is pretty good, but, most people do run Timid, which gets its special attack to a tad higher than max base 120). There's also the fact that TTar and Sharpedo will probably* be the most used Megas--TTar upon Mega evolution gains more bulk, and more raw power (and DDance can slay unprepared teams), and Sharpedo is an awesome lategame cleaner. I'm pretty undecided on that.
Alo I agree with for
B. Despite its phenoninal defense, its usually only used on Stall Teams, otherwise, you don't really see it on much else.
Jirachi I agree with for A. It's incredibly versatile, and can run a number of sets, inclduing Scarf, AV, Sp Defensive, ect. It helps a lot vs Fighting (Scarf especially), I don't see what wouldn't warrant that for
A rank.
Mega Garchomp I agree with for
A rank.
terrors summed it up well, I won't reiterate his points.
Mega Gallade on Fighting I disagree with moving down to A. Medicham does have extraordinary wallbreaking power, but, Gallade has better bulk, and a much better speed tier (ex, speed tying with Lati@s, which can often threaten Fighting teams). Not to mention, after an SD, its stronger than Medicham (and Bulk Up even). I'd keep that at
S.
While I'm at it, I have a couple nominations myself.
Eelektross A ---> B/C. Lately it's seen seldom usage, and on top of that, not very strong. With AV it does have the ability to check Volcarona, but, that's about it. You often don't even have enough room to run a STAB attack. That's why I wanted to see about lowering that to B rank.
Luxray B ---> A. Electric has an extremely low pool of Physical Attackers. While I can agree Thundy edges it out because of Priority Twave and better Speed, Luxray is still great for people that want to run Special Thundy, and it has the ability to break Chansey/P2 (Thundy does not like taking an Ice Beam), which Electric severely struggles with otherwise. Plus, its an awesome switchin to status (especially seeing Zapdos or Rotom don't like be toxic'd nullifying their walling abilities), Luxray can easily punish them. I think it should go back to A rank.
I would also like to back up
Waszap's nomination, however, if Lapras goes up, I feel Walrein should as well. Similar roles, however Walrein is a great con vs Fire, while Lapras is great vs Water. Not to mention, both are able to effectively (or at least as best as you could possibly get) check Scizor.
Regular Sharpedo C ---> B (Dark). Mega Sharpedo does outshine it a tad, but, Regular Sharpedo has a much better ability to run a Mixed Set, thanks to LO. Like its Mega counterpart, its also a great cleaner, and a good way to threaten Ground, Flying, and Fire. I think that merrits it good enough to be ranked up.
Weezing C ---> B. I hated that it was dropped to C rank on Poison in the first place. It's another good Ground Immunity, with pretty good Physical Defense, and access to WoW, Haze/Clear Smog, and Pain Split for recovery (not exactly the best, but its usable). Why wouldn't it be B ranked?