Gen 8 Zweil la Zweil

[Menace17]

Zweil la Zweil
Zipette Zipette elle fait une fixette sur ZWEILOUS


Pour mon 17ème post il fallait marquer le coup, donc salut la team et bienvenue dans un tuto sur comment jouer Zweilous.

Teambuilding Process:
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The main idea:
So the idea was to build with a funny mon. Thanks to Hustle, some high BP moves and the ability to carry a Choice Band, Zweilous had the potential to be a super good breaker.


Help Zweilous in doing damages:
Due to his typing, Zweilous struggle against Fairy-Type, specially Clefable (and Tapu Koko) who don't take Stealth Rocks and have the ability to heal freely and forcing Zweilous out, same for Weavile which is a super top threat that can revenge kill easily.
To handle that, Assault Vest Melmetal was a good option, he eat most moves from the 3 aboves Pokémon like a chief (maybe not Low Sweep Weavile but we'll come to that later) and pressure them with the 2nd most dumbest move ever invented.
To complete that, Scarf Tapu Lele act as a revenge killer, cleaner and speed control, outspeeding Dragapult, Tapu Koko, Weavile etc... as well as offering great support to Zweilous with Future Sight.


Don't lose to everything:
At this point it was obvious that fast Ghost-Type such as Dragapult and Blacephalon were top dangerous. Despite his typing, Zweilous can only come once on resisted moves from them, and they almost have the 2HKO with rocks up. In the same way, Heatran was really pressuring, and thanks there is a Pokemon that can handle all three of them.
Tyranitar with SpeDef invest appeared as the answer to all of that. Can check really dangerous threat, set rocks up, spread para with Thunder Wave and offer a way to play around weather based team.


The final touch:
At this point there were still things that can end Zweilous career on preview: fast physical mon (specially scrafer who outspeed Tapu Lele). Urshifu, Kartana, Barraskewda, Rillaboom, Landorus, Garchomp are all dangerous.
Tangrowth is an amazing mon with the ability to check almost everything on the physical side. He's weak to U-Turn but punish spam with the Rocky Helmet, don't take that much from neutral move, even at +2 and can hit back with correct Atk and SpAtk stats. Regenerator grant healing ability and his low SpeD stats is completed by TTar's ability to come on what threat him. But, there's still a big problem, hazards.
To get rid of hazards, offer a ground immunity and a way to pivot, Rotom-Wash was perfect. At some point, Tornadus was seen as an option but the neutrality to Elec, the ability to "check" Weavile were definitly what was needed to the team. Rotom offer momentum with Volt-Switch, can clear the field with Defog, heal and chip with Pain Split and do some damages with Hydro Pump (shitty move).

Sets explanation:

Tangrowth

Tangrowth @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
- Knock Off/Sludge Bomb
- Stun Spore/Sleep Powder/Sludge Bomb/Earthquake
- Focus Blast​

• Come on most physical threat specially: Urshifu, Landorus, Barraskewda, Excadrill, Rillaboom, Zeraora, Kartana and punish with Rocky Helmet.​
• Focus Blast allow to "pressure" Ferrothorn, Kartana or Melmetal, as well as cheap Heatran on switch or anything that want to come on Tang.​
• Giga Drain is the main STAB and Stun Spore allow to spread Paralysis to help Zweilous to spam move easily.​
• Knock Off help against almost everything, knock Boots from Tornadus-T, Zapdos or Leftovers from Landorus, Melmetal, Heatran combo with Stealth Rocks and Rocky Helmet allow a to kill slowly.​

Others options:
- Sludge Bomb: it's an option to think about, a good move to hit Tapu Koko, Clefable, Rillaboom and poison. Could be used instead of Stun Spore to keep a mean of removing items but keep spread a status, or instead of Knock Off to spread two status. Poison is specially useful for mons like Garchomp, and Volcarona that can normally come on Tangrowth.
- Earthquake: Same as Sludge Bomb, allow to hit some mons like Tapu Koko, Heatran, Magnezone on a switch as well as Glowking. It basically hit same things as Focus Blast (+ some others) in a less miss reliant way but you lose the ability to hit Kart/Ferro.

Melmetal

Gamagorille @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 128 HP / 116 Atk / 252 SpD / 12 Spe
Careful Nature
- Double Iron Bash
- Earthquake/Superpower
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch​

• Can come on Fairy such as Clefable, Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele to check and force them out as well as a lot of mons on both physical and special side.​
• Double Iron Bash is basically Melmetal Fishious Rend so it cancel anything that don't resist on a in with rocks up.​
• The other moves are just coverage to hit what DIB can't.​

Other Option:
- Superpower: As explained most of the time Earthquake is better, but Superpower is a way to hit Ferrothorn which can be helpful with Lele.

Extra

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Thunder Wave/Fire Blast​

• Tyranitar set Stealth Rock which offer some good calc to Zweilous and Lele. Can come on most Special move and is a good in to check Dragapult, Blacephalon and Heatran.​
• Rock Blast/Earthquake are here to do some damages, to like Zapdos, Tornadus, Tapu Koko, Heatran and others mon on in.​
• Thunder Wave is, again, here to spread paralysis and help Zweilous.​

Other Option:
- Fire Blast: Fire Blast is an option to consider so TTar will be less passive agains't Ferrothorn and Corviknight.

Tapu ELLE

Arrivée Nui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psyshock
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
- Future Sight​

• Scarf Lele act as a good revenge killer.​
• Psyshock to hit everything that don't resist, Moonblast to hit everything because fairy type is dumb, Focus Blast to hit when the other move can't and Future Sight to help Melmetal/Zweilous to Break.​

Rotom-Wash

Mankanshoku Washko @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 144 Def / 116 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Defog
- Pain Split​

• Rotom pivot with Volt Switch to help gain momentum.​
• Mixed spread to check Melmetal, Heatran, Volcanion and some rain mons, like Seismitoed Weather Ball.​
• Allow to clear hazards with Defog.​

Zweilous


Matoi Zweiluuko @ Choice Band
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Superpower
- Outrage
- Crunch
- Head Smash​

• Is dumb.​
• Miss moves.​
• Click Head Smash/Superpower until there is no STAB resist and then go Outrage.​
• Die from recoil.​

Some funny calc with Zweilous

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 200 Def Clefable: 307-362 (77.9 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery.
252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 210-248 (52.5 - 62%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery.
252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 171-202 (51.1 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 129-153 (42.4 - 50.3%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 216 Def Tapu Fini: 223-263 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

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Weaknesses ​

Alone mons:
- Buzzwole: Buzzwole can be checked by Tangrowth and revenge killed by Tapu Lele. But without Sludge Bomb Tangrowth can't do much and with Rocks up it's hard to in Lele, not a dead MU but hard to deal with.
- Volcanion: Specs drop things but Rotom can "in" few times against it and Rocks prevent to come freely. Boots Volcanion is a real hard MU.
- Volcarona: Almost same as Volcanion, you may have to play aggro to prevent a setup that will lead to a sweep.
- + Clefable: Clefable is not dangerous or hard to break by itself, but the Rocky Helmet basically kill Zweilous and chip Melmetal.
- + / Lokix : Just a pain.

Hard to break cores:
- + GastroTran: Heatran in are Rotom and Tytar, and both are cancel by Gastrodon that even prevent Rotom to get the momentum back. Just try to play around SR to cheap and maybe kill tran. FSight + Zweilous can break but be aware of Flame Body.
- / () +/ Rocky Helmet: As said, Rocky Helmet on mons that can come on Zweilous and Melmetal is a hard, so everything that take advatange from them weakened is a pain. Skarmory can easily be Knock Off by Tangrowth and with FSight you can manage to break it.
And prolly some more.

Replays:
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VS Stall : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1801503135
VS HO : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-70084602
VS ElecSpam : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexubers-1801524634
VS Pop Simoké : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1801497383
VS the goat : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1801529383

Remerciements particuliers:​

Un gros merci tout particulier à Pheo' et Shafofficiel pour toutes les games de test et plus généralement pour être des gars pas dégeu au jeu, c'était vraiment très sympa de pouvoir jouer avec vous.

Merci particulier à ironwater pour avoir répondu à tous les pings concernant la manière dont fallait faire une RMT et pcq c'est un crack (tu peux me follow maintenant, la supercherie a assez durée).

Et un immense merci à Akany, aucune idée de ce que tu deviens mais t'étais vrmnt le goat...

Remerciements spéciaux:

Remerciements

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J'vous aime bien la team (mention spéciale à toutes les personnes avec qui on a brawl/skribbl/Pop Sauce/Gartic/Make It Meme/Codenames/Fall Guys/Bomb Party/MK ou même juster parlé)

Mentions spéciale "salut"

Salut Maxouille, Nael222, Pohjis, yovan33321 et RichardMillePlain

GH

cassez vous dmes DM les pussos (@akhy souleymane )

Remerciement spécial minorités

salam Hyssou BlazingDark et Skyrio

OFCS

Osake Lyna Staxi Panure Lionyx SFG Antorot Altthiel Clementine Swiffix (100% il manque pleins de blazes ^-^''') mais staff la room et plus généralement faire des trucs avec vous c'était vraiment cool. Par contre les RTT ça se mérite donc les stagiaires SSSS là retournez bosser.

febzuafgiber

Palapapop Yelodash Nultiprise Student of Sinnoh vous êtes vrmnt des gars trop trop sympas

Sur ce, tout s'est passé comme sur des roulettes et restez comme vous êtes.
(PS: Cette année on cap Smogon avec Nulti)
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The cool kid is out, hasta la vistar.​

 

[McMeghan]

ce schizo mon dieu

 

[Hyssou]

Solide !

 

[Osake]

avec ce build de fou 100% le cap SPL passe l'an prochain

 

[MurderousMantyke]

Wait why is Lokix in the threatlist if it's an SS OU team?

 

[Turtlek]

Wait why is Lokix in the threatlist if it's an SS OU team?

Don’t break the magic and don’t pay attention to all the replays that are private games

 

[Palapapop]

Depuis que j'ai adopté cette team, j'ai remporté la SPL en solo et trouvé un taff (en plus de mon job de stagiaire de la société SSSS) merci JMM17