I'm no bellyzard expert and Firestorm seems to, but why Fly over, well, pretty much everything else that exists?
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[ Warstory ] Firestorm vs EBCubs03
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I just realized I forgot to mention items in my post. Raichu had Life Orb, Milotic had leftovers, and EBCubs03's team all had leftovers except Infernape.
Bellyzard without Blaze and Salac Berry is like Link without a sword and shield. So I haven't really thought of getting rid of substitute. That extra boost of power puts a lot more things into OHKO range than you think!
Aerial Ace would have had a 73% chance of OHKing Gyarados after Intimidate. That's assuming the opponent is using the DDGyara build in the Analysis. It has a 0% chance of OHKOing BulkyGyara after Intimidate.
The reason I have Fly is more for Swamperts, Vaporeons, and their little friends. Even Earthquake don't kill them so I stick with it. 90 Base (135 after STAB) is enough to kill most threats in the game that doesn't completely resist it. And no one really sees it coming unless they know beforehand that I have it. Only real problem is Rhyperior and Tyranitar.
Fly isn't going to be everyone's first (or second or third or second last) choice, but I find it works out alright in my games. Becomes hard to use once used in the battle, but the first time is usually fine. It guarantees a KO unless they have Impish Rhyperior with 252 hp / 252 def, in which case their physical wall has just been crippled.
I remember trying Whirlwind on NetBattle and I kinda liked it. But the two Pokemon I usually see leading that sub up are Jolteon (who I break the sub of with U-Turn) and Ninjask (who always stays in to get Encored by Raichu and sometimes even stays in not knowing how Encore works and lets Charizard set up). I'm just too afraid of sand teams to get rid of Sunny Day I guess =/
The Blissey he uses would have done about 66% to me with Thunderbolt. But yeah, Fly doesn't have the best accuracy and it's one of the reasons I don't use it unless I have to. Thankfully, I don't need it in most battles and those that I do usually only need it once or twice. I have had it screw me over before.
Bellyzard without Blaze and Salac Berry is like Link without a sword and shield. So I haven't really thought of getting rid of substitute. That extra boost of power puts a lot more things into OHKO range than you think!
Well, the thing with Fly is, if I didn't have it, I would have been 4-0ed. Earthquake wouldn't have even affected Gyarados.
Aerial Ace would have had a 73% chance of OHKing Gyarados after Intimidate. That's assuming the opponent is using the DDGyara build in the Analysis. It has a 0% chance of OHKOing BulkyGyara after Intimidate.
The reason I have Fly is more for Swamperts, Vaporeons, and their little friends. Even Earthquake don't kill them so I stick with it. 90 Base (135 after STAB) is enough to kill most threats in the game that doesn't completely resist it. And no one really sees it coming unless they know beforehand that I have it. Only real problem is Rhyperior and Tyranitar.
Fly isn't going to be everyone's first (or second or third or second last) choice, but I find it works out alright in my games. Becomes hard to use once used in the battle, but the first time is usually fine. It guarantees a KO unless they have Impish Rhyperior with 252 hp / 252 def, in which case their physical wall has just been crippled.
If he had aerial ace or EQ > fly, in this particular battle, since I knew most of the moves he had.. A +4 Aerial Ace would do 85-100% against my Gyarados EV spread, so he'd definitely might be in trouble unless he was packing fly. EQ would prove even worse for him. Rock Slide is an option, but then some more stuff could wall his Charizard potentially.
Although I know very little about belly drumming Charizard, so I could be wrong on a lot.
Although I know very little about belly drumming Charizard, so I could be wrong on a lot.
Great Sage
Banned deucer.
This story is even more proof that Umbreon is useless bait; all it does is attract anything and everything to rape you. I do enjoy the Butterfree usage, though.
I think Firestorm knows this is where he needs work most, he's looking into putting some more defense into his team. But Umbreon with taunt works well for him. He mean looked my Donphan switching in, taunted it, switched to Charizard, swept me. His umbreon provides wish support and I think is a good part of his team.
I agree with this statement. He can work sometimes, though, but is unreliable.
But, good warstory. Too bad on the loss, but Charizard is proving that he can work quite well in the warstories of yours that I have read. Intimidate is bitch, though.
Bait, but not useless bait. Choice Scarf Heracross makes for a good Bellyzard set up as it's locked into Megahorn or Close Combat. Band Infernape was bad. I have a new set I'm going to try on him soon which I hope to get good results out of.
Very nice story. It was very cool to say Bellyzard go down with the right strategy. Good job on using the Pokemon you did
Excellent warstory. You write in a sympathic way and always manages to keep it exciting and interesting to read until the very end. And your team of non-standards only makes things even more interesting.
Your first story made me breed a BellyZard of my own and it has serves me very well so far. It's not exactly the same as yours though...
Well done. Hope you win next time ;)
Your first story made me breed a BellyZard of my own and it has serves me very well so far. It's not exactly the same as yours though...
Well done. Hope you win next time ;)
Amazing warstory, really well written. I think this warstory is the thing that will seriously push me towards not using a SunnyZard and using a Bellyzard instead.
Nice warstory, and nice usage of Butterfree + BellyZard. I've never heard of Fly used on BellyZard until now, and as far as I know, it wasn't a standard on advance. Is there any reason it became more useful now?
Well, it did get a power boost from 70 to 90, but it's still fairly sketchy.
Like Deck Knight said, the base power was upped from 70 to 90. With STAB, it becomes his strongest attack (other than Giga Impact and Focus Punch). But also like Deck Knight said, it's sketchy. Once your opponent knows you have it, you're left pretty vulnerable. Wish Charizard learned Close Combat!
Although that wouldn't helped in this situation either with Gyarados resisting it and all.
Yeah, EBCubs IMed me about how Stealth Rock would definitely help me. I really should get rid of Milotic for Swampert like Tangerine told me a while ago. Helps against my electric and rock weak, pretty much can do what Milotic does, and provides stealth rock to hurt focus sashers and bring other Pokemon into KO range for Charizard.
Great warstory. EBcubs happens to be a friend of mine and yeah. His team is quite hard to beat.
I like your writing.
I like your writing.