Resource VGC 2022 Speed Tiers

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:ss/regieleki::ss/calyrex-shadow:VGC 2022 Speed Tiers :ss/calyrex-ice:

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Special thanks to Charlotte for helping me put this together alongside the BSS Series 12 Speed Tiers!
You ever see something weird and don't know how fast it is, or are just not sure what speed benchmarks to hit when making your own EV Spread? Then this is the thread for you! In this thread, we got a big list of Pokemon speeds for your viewing and teambuilding pleasure! Here's a few tips to get the most out of this thread!

- Any Speed in BOLD AND RED means its a pretty important speed benchmark to consider outspeeding! Any Pokemon in BOLD AND BLUE is a particularly relevant target in that speed tier!

- Note this currently doesn't take into account Pokemon that are known to hit a variety of Speed spreads. A big example of this is Zacian-C: Zacian-C has a bazillion different speed benchmarks it likes to hit, this just covers some of the extremes!

- Use the VGC damage calc with this thread to help craft your own EV spreads, as the calc DOES take speed modifiers into account!

- For any non max Speed Pokemon that is known for using 252 / 252 spreads, add an extra point in Speed for them, or 2 extra points if they double their Speed.

- I was a bit leery on including EVERYTHING under Tailwind just because that'd make these speed tiers massive, but I would like feedback on this!

- THERE WILL be debuff tables based around speed drops and paralysis later! They'll be in post #2 when they're done!

- Don't be afraid to point out mistakes, I'm sure there's some stuff I missed!

- Feel free to suggest more mons to add to this thread, or for mons to be removed! For the Battle Stadium Singles thread, I was pretty liberal and included some not so great Pokemon, so players can quickly reference these tables if they find something odd. While I'm fine with approaching these speed tiers like this as well, I was more conservative with what I included, because I wanted feedback from you folks first!

Tier 0: Faster than +Speed Regieleki

Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral 252 EVs
447:thundurus:Thundurus (+3)
417:charizard:Charizard :zapdos:Zapdos (all +3)
415:regieleki:Regieleki (+1 or Choice Scarf)
:yveltal:
Yveltal (+3)
392:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+3)
378:regieleki: Regieleki (+1)
368:whimsicott: Whimsicott (Tailwind)
358:thundurus:Thundurus :tornadus:Tornadus (both +2 or Tailwind)
334:charizard:Charizard
:zapdos:
Zapdos (all +2)
333:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S (Choice Scarf or +1)
332:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all +2)
330:ditto::zacian-crowned:Choice Scarf Ditto transformed into Zacian-C
314:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+2)
302:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all +2)
300:kingdra:Kingdra (Swift Swim)
290:venusaur:Venusaur (Chlorophyll)

Tier 1: Regieleki to Timid Charizard

Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral 252 EVs0 EVs
277:regieleki: Regieleki:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+3)
274:kingdra:Kingdra (Swift Swim)
268:thundurus:Thundurus (+1)
265:kartana:Kartana (+1)
264:venusaur:Venusaur (Chlorophyll)
252:regieleki:Regieleki
250:charizard:Charizard :zapdos:Zapdos (all +1)
249:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
244:urshifu:Urshifu :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala (+1 or Choice Scarf)
240:zapdos:Zapdos (all +2)
235:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+1 or Choice Scarf)
234:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
226:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all+1 or Choice Scarf)
222:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+2)
220:zacian-crowned:Zacian-C:regieleki:Regieleki (no boost)
213:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
200:zacian-crowned: Zacian-C
184:whimsicott:Whimsicott
179:thundurus:Thundurus :tornadus:Tornadus
177:kartana:Kartana
167:charizard:Charizard:zapdos:Zapdos :palkia:Palkia

Tier 3: Timid Yveltal to Neutral 0 Spe Rillaboom

Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs
166:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+1)
163:urshifu:Urshifu :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
161:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
157:landorus-therian:Landorus-T
156:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon :dialga:Dialga:reshiram:Reshiram
151:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
150:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :kingdra:Kingdra
149:urshifu:Urshifu, :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
147:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
145:venusaur:Venusaur
142:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
137:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :kingdra:Kingdra
135:amoonguss:Amoonguss (+1)
132:venusaur:Venusaur
131:thundurus:Thundurus
130:blastoise:Blastoise
123:incineroar:Incineroar :grimmsnarl:Grimmsnarl
120:zapdos:Zapdos :palkia: Palkia
119:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
116:mimikyu: Mimikyu
112:calyrex-ice: Calyrex-I
111:landorus-therian: Landorus-T
110:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
105:Indeedee-F:Indeedee-F :tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom

Tier 4 (Slowest): Jolly Shedinja to -Speed 0 IV Ferrothorn
Speed+Speed 252 EVsNuetral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs-Speed 0 IVs
101:shedinja:Shedinja
98:blastoise:Blastoise
94:palkia:Palkia
92:shedinja:Shedinja
91:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
90:amoonguss:Amoonguss:mimikyu:Mimikyu
85:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
81:rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :tapu fini:Tapu Fini
80:incineroar:Incineroar:porygon2: Porygon2 :grimmsnarl:Grimmsnarl
74:blastoise:Blastoise
70:Calyrex-ice:Calyrex-I
59:gastrodon:Gastrodon
58:incineroar: Incineroar :porygon2:Porygon2
50:amoonguss:Amoonguss
49:calyrex-ice:Calyrex-I
40:ferrothorn:Ferrothorn :torkoal:Torkoal
39:gastrodon:Gastrodon
31:amoonguss:Amoonguss
22:ferrothorn:Ferrothorn :torkoal:Torkoal
 
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Debuff Tables

For those of you that use Rock Tomb and Paralysis, this will come in handy! The first able covers Pokemon that have -1 Speed, while the second upcoming table will cover paralyzed Pokemon!

Speed Drop Table (-1 Speed)
Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs
315:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
287:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
244:whimsicott:Whimsicott (Tailwind)
238:tornadus:Tornadus :thundurus:Thundurus (both under Tailwind)
200:kingdra:Kingdra (Swift Swim)
192:venusaur:Venusaur (Chlorophyll)
186
184:regieleki:Regieleki
182:kingdra:Kingdra (Swift Swim)
180:seismitoad:Seismitoad (Swift Swim)
176:venusaur:Venusaur (Chlorophyll)
168:regieleki: Regieleki
164:seismitoad:Seismitoad (Swift Swim)
148:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S
146:zacian-crowned:Zacian-C:regieleki:Regieleki
142:dragapult:Dragapult
133:eternatus:Eternatus:zacian-crowned:Zacian-C
129:dragapult:Dragapult
125:cinderace:Cinderace
122:whimsicott:Whimsicott
119:thundurus:Thundurus :tornadus:Tornadus
118:kartana:Kartana :raichu:Raichu
111:charizard:Charizard:zapdos:Zapdos:palkia:Palkia
110:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
108:urshifu:Urshifu :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
107:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
104:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon:landorus-therian:Landorus-T:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
101:zapdos:Zapdos:palkia:Palkia
100:tapu fini:Tapu Fini:rillaboom:Rillaboom :kingdra:Kingdra:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
99:urshifu:Urshifu :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
98:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
96:venusaur:Venusaur
95:landorus-therian:Landorus-T
94:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
92:rotom-heat:Rotom-H
91:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F
87:thundurus:Thundurus
85:gothitelle:Gothitelle
84:seismitoad:Seismitoad
82:incineroar:Incineroar :grimmsnarl:Grimmsnarl :weezing:Weezing
80:zapdos:Zapdos :palkia:Palkia
79:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
74:calyrex-ice:Calyrex-I:landorus-therian:Landorus-T
73:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
70:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :rotom-heat:Rotom-H


-2 Speed Table (aka the Scary Face Table)
Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs
270:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
246:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
207:regieleki:Regieleki (Choice Scarf)
165:ditto::zacian-crowned:Choice Scarf Ditto transformed into Zacian-C
138:regieleki:Regieleki
126:regieleki:Regieleki
117:kyogre:Kyogre
:landorus-therian:
Landorus-T
:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon (All Choice Scarf)
111:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S
110:zacian-crowned:Zacian-C
106:dragapult:Dragapult:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon (all Choice Scarf)
100:eternatus:Eternatus:mewtwo:Mewtwo:zacian-crowned: Zacian-C
94:cinderace:Cinderace :inteleon:Inteleon
92:whimsicott:Whimsicott
91:eternatus:Eternatus :mewtwo:Mewtwo
89:thundurus:Thundurus :tornadus:Tornadus
88:kartana:Kartana :raichu:Raichu
85:cinderace:Cinderace
83:charizard:Charizard:yveltal:Yveltal :zapdos:Zapdos :regigigas:Regigigas:xerneas:Xerneas:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+1)
81:urshifu:Urshifu:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
80:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
78:kyogre:Kyogre
:landorus-therian:
Landorus-T
:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon
75
:tapu fini:
Tapu Fini
:rillaboom:
Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :kingdra:Kingdra
:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
74:urshifu:Urshifu:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
73:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
72:venusaur:Venusaur
71:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon
69
:seismitoad:
Seismitoad
:rotom-h:Rotom-Heat
68:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :kingdra:Kingdra
66:venusaur:Venusaur
65:blastoise:Blastoise
64:gothitelle:Gothitelle
63:seismitoad:Seismitoad
61:incineroar:Incineroar :grimmsnarl:Grimmsnarl :weezing:Weezing
60:palkia:Palkia :zapdos:Zapdos
59:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
58
:mimikyu:
Mimikyu
55:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon:landorus-therian:Landorus-T:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
53:rotom-heat:Rotom-H
52:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F

Paralysis Tables
Tier 0: Faster than Paralyzed Timid Calyrex-S

Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral 252 EVs0 EVs
207:yveltal:Yveltal (+3)
196:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+3)
180:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
166:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S (Choice Scarf or +1)
165:ditto::zacian-crowned:Choice Scarf Ditto transformed into Zacian-C
164:coalossal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
150:eternatus:Eternatus :mewtwo:Mewtwo (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
148:yveltal:Yveltal (+3)
141:cinderace:Cinderace (+1)
140
138:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+3)
132:kartana:Kartana (+1)
128:cinderace:Cinderace (+1)
124:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
122:urshifu:Urshifu:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala (+1 or Choice Scarf)
120:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W :kyurem-black:Kyurem-B:rayquaza:Rayquaza (all+1 or Choice Scarf):kartana:Kartana (+1)
117:kyogre:Kyogre
:landorus-therian:
Landorus-T
:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon
113:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas (all+1 or Choice Scarf)
112:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F (all Choice Scarf or +1)
111:urshifu:Urshifu, :solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala (+1 or Choice Scarf)

Tier 1: Paralyzed Timid Calyrex-S to Jolly Garchomp
Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs
111:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-S
110:zacian-crowned:Zacian-C :zygarde: Zygarde :darmanitan-galar: Darmanitan-G :kyurem-white: Kyurem-W :kyurem-black:Kyurem-B:rayquaza:Rayquaza (all+1 or Choice Scarf)
106:dragapult:Dragapult:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
102:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F(all Choice Scarf or +1)
100:eternatus:Eternatus:mewtwo:Mewtwo:zacian-crowned: Zacian-C
94:cinderace:Cinderace :inteleon:Inteleon
92:whimsicott:Whimsicott
91:eternatus:Eternatus :mewtwo:Mewtwo
88:kartana:Kartana
85:cinderace:Cinderace

Tier 2: Paralyzed Timid Charizard to Neutral 0 Spe Rillaboom

Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral Speed 252 EVs0 Speed EVs
83:charizard:Charizard:yveltal:Yveltal :palkia:Palkia :regigigas:Regigigas:xerneas:Xerneas:landorus-therian:Landorus-T (+1)
81:urshifu:Urshifu:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
80:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
78:kyogre:Kyogre
:landorus-therian:
Landorus-T
:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon
75
:tapu fini:
Tapu Fini
:rillaboom:
Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :kingdra:Kingdra
:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
74:urshifu:Urshifu:solgaleo:Solgaleo :lunala:Lunala
73:kyurem-white: Kyurem-W
72:venusaur:Venusaur
71:kyogre:Kyogre :dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram :groudon:Groudon
69
:seismitoad:
Seismitoad
68:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F :kingdra:Kingdra
66:venusaur:Venusaur
65:blastoise:Blastoise
64:gothitelle:Gothitelle
61:incineroar:Incineroar :grimmsnarl:Grimmsnarl :weezing:Weezing
60:palkia:Palkia
59:yveltal:Yveltal :xerneas:Xerneas
58
:mimikyu:
Mimikyu
55:kyogre:Kyogre :groudon:Groudon:landorus-therian:Landorus-T:dialga:Dialga :reshiram:Reshiram
52:tapu fini:Tapu Fini :rillaboom:Rillaboom :indeedee-f:Indeedee-F

Niche Speed Tiers
For uncommon Pokemon in case of seeing them or needing to speedcreep them!
Speed+Speed 252 EVsNeutral 252 Speed EVs0 Speed EVs-Speed 0 IVs
376:barraskewda:Barraskewda (Swift Swim)
360:coalossoal:Coalossal (Steam Engine)
328:coalossal: Coalossal (Steam Engine)
276:seismitoad:Seismitoad (Swift Swim)
252:seismitoad:Seismitoad (Swift Swim)
250:entei:Entei (Choice Scarf)
223:pheromosa:Pheromosa
213:dragapult:Dragapult
200:spectrier:Spectrier:eternatus:Eternatus :tapu koko:Tapu Koko :mewtwo:Mewtwo
195:talonflame:Talonflame
189:inteleon:Inteleon
188:cinderace:Cinderace:barraskewda:Barraskewda
180:persian-alola:Alolan Persian
178:raichu:Raichu
173:liepard:Liepard
167:entei:Entei :regigigas:Regigigas
161:indeedee-m:Indeedee-M
152:entei:Entei
150:suicune:Suicune
138:seismitoad:Seismitoad:rotom-heat:Rotom-H
128:gothitelle:Gothitelle
127:kingler:Kingler
126:seismitoad:Seismitoad
123:weezing:Weezing :lapras:Lapras
120:entei:Entei
112:lapras:Lapras
110:alcremie:Alcremie
106:rotom-heat:Rotom-H
105:suicune:Suicune
94:seismitoad:Seismitoad
85
:gothitelle:
Gothitelle :umbreon:Umbreon
83:regigigas:Regigigas (Slow Start)
:lapras:Lapras
70:sableye:Sableye:chansey:Chansey
63:gothitelle:Gothitelle :umbreon:Umbreon
62:alcremie:Alcremie
34:bronzong:Bronzong
27:dusclops:Dusclops
22:shuckle:Shuckle
 
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Rotom-H, Suicune, Inteleon, Alcremie, Shuckle, Barraskewda, Bronzong, Entei should problaby be added. Palkia doesnt speed boost in vgc. Tysm for making this
Added this stuff, and as suggested on Discord, I've added a new "niche table" to reduce clutter. Feel free to ask me to move some mons there! Note I have't included speed drop tiers for them yet, because I honestly haven't heard of most of these mons before, so I want to make sure I have the right speed benchmarks for them via feedback before I add more rows!
 
Added this stuff, and as suggested on Discord, I've added a new "niche table" to reduce clutter. Feel free to ask me to move some mons there! Note I have't included speed drop tiers for them yet, because I honestly haven't heard of most of these mons before, so I want to make sure I have the right speed benchmarks for them via feedback before I add more rows!
I made a list of mons that would problaby fit there. Most are in the other speed tiers now, but some might be completely new.
Gothitelle
Coalossal
Seismitoad
Cinderace
Dragapult
Dusclops
Umbreon
Regigigas
Weezing
Spectrier
Lapras
Sableye
Tapu Koko
Indeedee-M
Liepard
Talonflame
Pheromosa
Mewtwo (Idt mewtwo is viable, but low ladder players really like it fsr)
Kingler
 
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I made a list of mons that would problaby fit there. Most are in the other speed tiers now, but some might be completely new.
Gothitelle
Coalossal
Seismitoad
Cinderace
Dragapult
Dusclops
Umbreon
Regigigas
Weezing
Spectrier
Lapras
Sableye
Tapu Koko
Indeedee-M
Liepard
Talonflame
Pheromosa
Mewtwo (Idt mewtwo is viable, but low ladder players really like it fsr)
Kingler
Finally got to this, sorry for the long wait! Let me know if I screwed up any tiers. I haven't removed all the niche stuff from the debuff table yet (just left them on for now), but most of them SHOULD be gone from the main tables. If there's any demand for speed control on niche mons, I'll get to them, but it might take a few days due to the tedium lol.
 
Finally got to this, sorry for the long wait! Let me know if I screwed up any tiers. I haven't removed all the niche stuff from the debuff table yet (just left them on for now), but most of them SHOULD be gone from the main tables. If there's any demand for speed control on niche mons, I'll get to them, but it might take a few days due to the tedium lol.
tyty, can u maybe do raichu too? Its good but hard to fit on a team. Its usage is a lot lower than i thought a week ago lol
 

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