That’s because Mega Latias is not going to UU. It already got banned so it’s not coming in with all of the other fat and broken garbage that OU dispensed.
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Data Usage-Based Tier Update for July 2018 (Aug @ #84) (Sep @ #138)
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Exactly, it officially becomes UUBL again and it's a information that should be specified
ILoveMilk
Banned deucer.
Fire/Flying Stab is able to hit a large majority of the tier for heavy damage + is a good defensive typing as well
it's a strat to ban sciz lol
Diancie-Mega moved from OU to UU
Send help.
lowkey though Metagross just won
Send help.
lowkey though Metagross just won
problem is, now we need it more lol
Another minor typo lol
It's not a "typo" per se. Antar's system doesn't read whether a mon is in a BL (like UUBL, RUBL, etc), so it just lists it as PU by default
Done
Why did serp rise explain what the fuck is low ladder smoking
Basically a veil team became very popular and Serp was in it too. Serp is a decent mon in OU but it should not be an OU mon.
Gastrodon jumping up 5 tiers got me like
It's kind of funny, Gliscor leaving the tier at the same time Mamoswine, one of it's best checks, returns. I guess this time around it's probably not going to be leaving again.
Mega Venusaur is gonna be quickbanned for sure imo, It's basically everything Amoonguss wishes it was except that it doesn't have spore and regenerator and takes up the Mega slot. Amoongus already body-blocked a huge chunk of the tier and now put in something with even more bulk and we practically have an immovable object.
It's kind of funny, Gliscor leaving the tier at the same time Mamoswine, one of it's best checks, returns. I guess this time around it's probably not going to be leaving again.
Mega Venusaur is gonna be quickbanned for sure imo, It's basically everything Amoonguss wishes it was except that it doesn't have spore and regenerator and takes up the Mega slot. Amoongus already body-blocked a huge chunk of the tier and now put in something with even more bulk and we practically have an immovable object.
pokemonisfun
Banned deucer.
Let's not be elitist though; there is no "should" or "should not" in determining the tiers. If people want to use a certain Pokémon, then let them have their fun!
I mean, it does suck that a C+ 'mon in a tier it rose in got stolen from a tier where it was pretty influencial tbh
Sorry that I came off that way, I am just not a fan of the Grass Snek rising to OU. I loved what it was accomplishing in UU, but that surge in usage it got in OU makes me feel like OU robbed Serp from us.
pokemonisfun
Banned deucer.
Oh no, I'm sorry for calling you elitist. It's just that I don't want anyone to think their opinion on tiering is more "right".
A lot of people agree with you that tiering by usage as it is has some problems (like losing Serperior) so they are discussing ways to fix it here https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lower-tier-shifts.3638656/#post-7851255
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
>I propose abolishing/restricting rises, I get shut down by a huge margin
>A big player proposes abolishing/restricting rises, they get tons of support and even dissenters are willing to discuss a good middle-ground option
On one hand, I should be absolutely fucking livid right now, like that one guy in a cartoon who makes a great idea only to get ignored, only for another character to make the same great idea seconds later and get tons of support.
On the other hand, I'm extremely happy that people are finally seeing the light. Praise based dodmen!
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pokemonisfun
Banned deucer.
Can you show where you proposed the change?
What you say doesnt surprise me the least. We all need to acknowledge the elitism on this website and do our best to treat each other as we would offline, respectfully, seriously, and kindly.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...te-for-april-2018.3632386/page-8#post-7810537
This was my first post on the matter. The discussion that follows speaks for itself. Compare it to the reactions on dodmen's post. Hypocrisy much?
pokemonisfun
Banned deucer.
Yes, after reading both your first and dodmen's, I have to say there is a glaring amount of hypocrisy. I'm sorry for that. One difference, is that he posted in Policy Review, which is more suitable for this discussion. But I think that highlights another point of elitism - you, an unbadged user, made a perfectly valid argument that was shot down. If we're saying it's been shot down because you put it in the wrong forum, we're essentially saying it was shot down because you're an unbadged user but the PR poster was not. It's clear elitism.
This website has huge ego and elitism problems, perhaps it's the nature of it for being an online gaming community, filled with teenagers and 20 somethings. All I can say is I'm sorry you aren't treated fairly and I will always do my best to treat others fairly, respectfully, seriously, and kindly myself.
I think presentation and character has a lot to do with it tbh. No offense at all man, but a lot of times these posts can come off as 'whiny', that sounds a bit harsh but it's the closest word I could think of. You've had several posts in the past that also walk that line like Lando-T and I think Golisopod stuff in RU as well. Call this a criticism if you will, but from reading your post about the tiering rises you get defensive pretty quickly which can lead to others seeing you as stubborn or impolite. I very much hope that's not your intent, but I've certainly felt that to some regard. I don't disagree about the elitism factor however, even if I don't personally feel it's as big of a factor as others do I can acknowledge the effect it's having. Again, I truly don't mean to take aim at you here man, I'm just offering my perspective.
i was gonna put something more positive here to combat the cynicism but it's late af and there ain't a positive bone left in my body
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