Gen 3 [Ubers] Wobbuffet

[Noitu]

[OVERVIEW]
Due to its access to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet stands as one of the main trappers in ADV Ubers, along with Magneton, Dugtrio, and Umbreon. Wobbuffet separates itself from the other trappers with its superior bulk and the ability to immediately trap any foe. Shadow Tag has no limitation on what can be trapped, which allows Wobbuffet to remove at least one opposing Pokemon in most games. In addition, Wobbuffet's access to Encore prevents it from becoming setup fodder. Encore in conjunction with Shadow Tag can provide teammates with valuable setup opportunities as well.

However, Wobbuffet's utility in ADV Ubers is limited due to the overall lack of Choice Band users, as Pokemon that can utilize Choice Band often prefer other items. In addition, most Pokemon carry at least one non-damaging move, which forces Wobbuffet into mind games with Encore. Its passive nature is also exploited by some setup sweepers, meaning that one incorrect read can prove devastating. While Wobbuffet's bulk may ease predictions, its inability to hold Leftovers limits the number of hits it can take: Wobbuffet is banned from holding Leftovers, as Wobbuffet vs. Wobbuffet will always result in an unending battle due to ADV's Struggle mechanics.

[SET]
name: Oh, no! It's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Counter
move 2: Mirror Coat
move 3: Encore
move 4: Safeguard / Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Careful / Impish
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
Using Wobbuffet is simple. Lead with it or switch it in for a revenge KO. Given its good bulk, it can also directly switch into some attacks. Thereafter, Encore is usually the move of choice. If the opposing Pokemon is locked into a damaging move, use Counter or Mirror Coat accordingly. If the foe is locked into a status move, take the opportunity to freely switch into a setup sweeper. Safeguard is usually the preferred final move to protect Wobbuffet and other team members from status. This is especially useful for providing setup sweepers with a safe switch. Alternatively, Destiny Bond can be used to better deal with Pokemon that lack status moves. Against a foe that can 2HKO or 3HKO Wobbuffet, Destiny Bond can at least either punish further setup or force a trade.

Wobbuffet is best at removing Choice item users. These include Deoxys-A, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Metagross, and, less frequently, Groudon, Snorlax, and Lugia. No single attack from these Pokemon can OHKO a full-health Wobbuffet without a critical hit, and Counter will easily KO back. Choice Band Heracross not locked into Megahorn can also be removed. Lum Berry is the preferred item to cure Wobbuffet of status once.

Team Options
========
Wobbuffet is a generalist when it comes to trapping. Unless an opposing Pokemon can outpace Wobbuffet and afflict it with poison or burn, it is a target for removal. In theory, Wobbuffet can support any Pokemon.

Since most priority users hold Choice Band, Wobbuffet can give Salac Berry users like Groudon, Heracross, and Kyogre an opportunity to sweep. Removing the likes of Choice Band Deoxys-A and Ho-Oh can also increase the sweeping potential of Pokemon such as Mewtwo, Latios, and Latias.

The combination of Encore and Shadow Tag also makes strong yet frail setup Pokemon good partners. Pokemon that usually have a difficult time finding setup opportunities can take advantage of Wobbuffet's ability to provide a safe setup turn. This makes Pokemon such as Belly Drum + Baton Pass Smeargle, Substitute Deoxys-A, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza good teammates. Choice Band Swellow can also be an interesting partner; simply lock a foe into a status move, switch Swellow in, and freely spam boosted Facade. A teammate with Roar and Whirlwind such as Kyogre, Groudon, and Ho-Oh can also be used as insurance to prevent foes locked into a setup move from becoming an issue.


[SET]
name: Blob-Removing Blob
move 1: Counter / Mirror Coat
move 2: Safeguard
move 3: Encore
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Def / 44 SpD / 212 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
This set aims to remove most special walls besides Deoxys-D. Slower special walls are all susceptible to being trapped by this set. This includes common special walls such as Blissey and Snorlax. While Dugtrio can also fulfill this role, Wobbuffet's superior bulk gives it the ability to directly switch into these Pokemon. Lum Berry is the preferred item, as it cures Wobbuffet of status once. The given Speed EVs allow Wobbuffet to outpace most special walls, while the given Defense EVs allow Wobbuffet to take a +6 Body Slam from an uninvested Snorlax.

Once in play, Wobbuffet can proceed to either use Safeguard against predicted status moves or use Encore to lock opposing Pokemon into both damaging and setup moves. Counter is preferred over Mirror Coat, as it allows Wobbuffett to damage Snorlax locked into a physical move. Destiny Bond ensures that Wobbuffet can secure trades, even against special attacking walls.

Against Seismic Toss users, it is advisable to not use Encore until Wobbuffet is within 3HKO range. If a trapped Pokemon lacks any damaging moves, Wobbuffet will likely PP stall it due to Counter and Safeguard’s high PP. Wobbuffet can also defeat faster special walls, such as Jirachi, Ho-Oh, and Latias, if it manages to Encore a damaging move.

Team Options
========
Strong special attackers such as Latios, Latias, Mewtwo, and Kyogre make fine partners for this set, as Wobbuffet can pave the way for them to sweep with its ability to remove special walls from play. Any additional Pokemon that support this cause are desirable teammates. For example, Metagross can be used to remove offensive checks to Wobbuffet, such as Deoxys-A and Latios, as well as secondary special walls on stall teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============
With only eight available moves, Wobbuffet's other options are rather limited. Either Tickle or Charm can be used to prevent physical attackers from successfully setting up.

Other than alterations to Speed investment, no other EV modification will prove very effective. Spreads with 252 HP EVs and either 252 Defense or 252 Special Defense EVs do not change any crucial 2HKOs into 3HKOs. Most boosted attacks from strong setup sweepers will 2HKO Wobbuffet regardless of its HP investment.

Checks and Counters
===================
A key definition of a counter is having the ability to switch in and remove or force out a target Pokemon. By virtue of its ability in Shadow Tag, it may be said that Wobbuffet does not have any true counters. The best way to defeat it is by exploiting its passive moveset and low Speed.

**Faster Pokemon**: The easiest way to stop Wobbuffet is by utilizing a fast Taunt user. Taunt Mew and Mewtwo can bypass Encore and proceed to set up on Wobbuffet. Skarmory and Deoxys-D can similarly stop Encore and Safeguard to set up Spikes or use Toxic. Additionally, any faster Pokemon with the ability to poison or burn Wobbuffet will quickly neutralize it. However, be wary of becoming locked into a status move, as Wobbuffet can set up Safeguard and switch out into a dangerous setup sweeper.

**Counter-trappers**: Dugtrio and Umbreon can counter-trap Wobbuffet. However, Dugtrio must get around Counter to defeat it. Umbreon can trap Wobbuffet with Mean Look and use Baton Pass to bring in a setup sweeper, leaving Wobbuffet helpless as the foe sets up safely behind a Substitute.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-type Pokemon with physical moves such as Gengar and Dusclops can attack Wobbuffet without the fear of retaliation from Counter due to their Fighting immunity. However, they must be wary of Destiny Bond.

**Strong Setup Sweepers**: Strong setup sweepers that can 2HKO Wobbuffet can force awkward predictions. Kyogre deserves a special mention due to its ability to 2HKO Wobbuffet with its rain-boosted attacks prior to any setup. Therefore, Wobbuffet must win a 50/50 with either Encore or Mirror Coat to get around Kyogre. The same holds true for any setup sweepers that boost as Wobbuffet switches in, given that they can 2HKO Wobbuffet after setting up.

**Self-Destruct and Explosion users**: Self-Destruct and Explosion from the likes of Metagross, Forretress, and Snorlax will OHKO Wobbuffet, or at least weaken it to the point that it is essentially out of the game.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Noitu, 382514]]
- Quality checked by: [[SuperEpicAmpharos, 306959], [Inspirited, 127823]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Aurora, 109385], [dex, 277988]]

 

[Noitu]

Edit 1:
Intro- fixed grammatical error; added information on reason for leftovers + wobbuffet ban.
Set 1 Descripton- Moved reason for inability to hold leftovers to introduction.
Set 2 Descripton- Removed mentions of less common special walls (umbreon, regice, registeel).
Other Options- fixed grammatical error
Checks & Counters- fixed grammatical error; Removed gardevior and porygon2, considering their lack of any other viability in ADV ubers.

Credits for Edits: Ajencis

 

[MMII]

cc for wobb is definitely not traditional and is very situational. I feel like it might be worth covering some more or less common situations / options. For example, faster Pokemon have the choice between letting Wobb encore lock them into a non-damaging move and accepting the pp stall and/or free switch + setup turn. In adv ubers, there's not a whole lot of scary one turn setups so this is usually the better option. Otherwise, you can make the decision to trade the trapped Pokemon for Wobb health to avoid a scenario where the free setup turn loses you the game or to prevent Wobb from trapping something more important. Protect Snorlax can use the priority of Protect to prevent Wobb from forcing a bslam lock. Wobb can easily pp stall this, though, so it's not a perfect solution but imo is worth mentioning. Maybe double switching is worth talking about?

 

[Noitu]

cc for wobb is definitely not traditional and is very situational. I feel like it might be worth covering some more or less common situations / options. For example, faster Pokemon have the choice between letting Wobb encore lock them into a non-damaging move and accepting the pp stall and/or free switch + setup turn. In adv ubers, there's not a whole lot of scary one turn setups so this is usually the better option. Otherwise, you can make the decision to trade the trapped Pokemon for Wobb health to avoid a scenario where the free setup turn loses you the game or to prevent Wobb from trapping something more important. Protect Snorlax can use the priority of Protect to prevent Wobb from forcing a bslam lock. Wobb can easily pp stall this, though, so it's not a perfect solution but imo is worth mentioning. Maybe double switching is worth talking about?

Thank you for the reply! Checks and counter to Wobbuffet is quite situational, isn't it? Beating Wobbuffet would mean either forcing it out, or switching in a "counter" after Wobbuffet has done its job. I chose not to include opting to be encore-lock into a non-damaging move, because the results can be dangerous. For example, if Latios is the team's counter to Kyogre and it is encore-locked into recover/refresh, Kyogre coming to set up a Calm Mind or forcing a KO would be devastating. Also, the opponent may want to lock something into a non-damaging move, as to provide a free switch into BellyPass Smeargle. PP stalling Encore is certainly an option, of couse. I'd love to hear more about you and other's thoughts on this.

Protect Snorlax is an interesting option, and I'd like to hear more about that as well. In my opinion, it still loses to to the second set, since 8 Encore PP is plenty to drain Protect PP. The only way for Snorlax to win in this situation is to get lucky triple, quadraple consecutive protects.

I don't know if double-switching can be considered a counter. By its virtue, good double switch will counter anything! Of course, Wobbuffet is a special case because of Shadow Tag.

I look forward to hearing more feedbacks! Also, would someone kindly tell me how to label this analysis (Revamp, QC, however it is categorized), thanks!

 

[MMII]

Protect is definitely easy for Wobb to PP stall but once the protect PP is gone you can click Curse. The only real advantage is avoiding the Encore lock on Body Slam assuming that was what Wobb switched into.

But yes, I agree with everything you are saying. Shadow Tag breaks the traditional sense of a check/counter. There is counterplay to what Wobbuffet can do, though, and things that you can control to avoid outright losing the game. I feel like talking about those things might be valuable even if they aren't absolute? You are definitely the expert when it comes to Wobbuffet.

 

[SEA]

Not much to add here, pretty straight forward. 1/2.

 

[Inspirited]

2/2

 

[aurora]

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[OVERVIEW]
RSE has gifted Wobbuffet with Shadow Tag, ending its sorrowful GSC days of sitting unused. It no Due to its access to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet stands as one of the main trappers in ADV Ubers, along with Magneton, Dugtrio, and Umbreon. Wobbuffet separates itself from the other trappers with its superior bulk, (RC) and/or the ability to immediately trap any opponent foe. Shadow Tag has no limitation on what can be trapped, which allows it Wobbuffet to remove at least one opposing Pokemon in most games. In addition, Wobbuffet's access to Encore prevents it from becoming a setup fodder. Encore in conjunction with Shadow Tag can provide teammates with valuable setup opportunity opportunities as well.

However, Wobbuffet's utility in ADV Ubers is limited relative to subsequent generations due the overall lack of choice Choice item users, (AC) as Choice band is the only one available, and those Pokemon that can utilize it Choice Band often run other items. In addition, most Pokemon carry at least one non-damaging move, which forces Wobbuffet into mind games with Encore. Its passive nature is also exploited by some setup sweepers, and meaning that one incorrect read can prove devastating. While Wobbuffet's bulk may ease predictions, its inability to hold Leftovers limits the number of hits it can take: (colon) . With Leftovers, Wobbuffet is banned from holding Leftovers, as Wobbuffet vs. Wobbuffet will always results in an unending battle due to ADV's struggle Struggle mechanics.

[SET]
name: Oh, no! It's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Counter
move 2: Mirror Coat
move 3: Encore
move 4: Safeguard / Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Careful / Impish
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

Set Description
=========
This is the bread-and-butter Wobbuffet set that has been used since RSE. The concept is Using Wobbuffet is simple. Lead with it, (RC) or switch it in for a revenge KO. Given its good bulk, it can also directly switch directly into some attacks. Thereafter, Encore is usually the move of choice. If the opposing Pokemon is locked into a damaging move, use Counter or Mirror Coat, (RC) accordingly. If it the foe is locked into a passive status move, take the opportunity to the freely switch into a setup sweeper. Safeguard is usually the preferred final move to protect Wobbuffet and other team members from status. This holds especially true is especially useful to provide for providing setup Pokemon sweepers with a safe switch-in switch into play. Alternatively, Destiny Bond can be used for to better deal with Pokemon that lack status moves. Against an opponent a foe that can 2-3HKO 2HKO or 3HKO Wobbuffet, Destiny bond Bond can at least either punish further set up setup or force a trade.

Similar to following generations, Wobbuffet is best at removing choice Choice item users. These include Deoxys-Attack, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Metagross, and, less frequently, Groudon, Snorlax, and Lugia. No single attack from these Pokemon can 1HKO OHKO a full health Wobbuffet without a critical hit, and Counter will easily KO back. Banded Choice Band Heracross not locked into Megahorn can also be removed. Lum Berry is the preferred item to prevent cure Wobbuffet of status once.


Team Options
========
Wobbuffet is a generalist when it comes to trapping. (full stop) , so it can support many causes. (this is redundant because of the ending sentence) Unless an opposing Pokemon can outpace Wobbuffet and inflict poison/burn afflict it with poison or burn, it is a target for removal. In theory, Wobbuffet can support any Pokemon.

Since most priority users hold Choice Band, Wobbuffet can free up a sweep from give Salac Berry users (such as?) an opportunity to sweep. Also, r Removing the likes of Choice Band Deoxys-Attack and Ho-Oh will can also increase the sweeping potential of Pokemon such as Mewtwo, Latios, and Latias.

The Ccombination of Encore and Shadow Tag also makes strong, (RC) yet frail setup Pokemon good partners. Those Pokemon that usually having have a difficult time finding setup opportunities can abuse take advantage of Wobbuffet's ability to provide a safe setup turn. This makes Pokemon such as Belly Drum + Baton Pass Smeargle, Substitute Deoxys-Attack, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza are a few candidates good teammates. Choice Band Swellow can also be an interesting partner. Lock an opponent a foe into a status move, and switch Swellow in to spam boosted Façade Facade. A teammate with Roar and Whirlwind (such as?) can also be used as an insurance to prevent those foes locked into a setup move from becoming an issue.



[SET]
name: Blob-Removing Blob
move 1: Counter / Mirror Coat
move 2: Safeguard
move 3: Encore
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Def / 44 SpD / 212 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]

Set Description
=========
This set aims to remove a special wall most special walls outside of besides Deoxys-Defense. Slower special walls are all susceptible to trap removal from being trapped by this set. These include This includes common special walls, (RC) such as Blissey and Snorlax. While Dugtrio may can also fulfill this role, Wobbuffet's superior bulk gives it has the ability to directly switch into these Pokemon without having to rely on revenge KO. Lum Berry is the preferred item, as it prevents status cures Wobbuffet of status once. and the bulk allows it to tank a hit on the switch with impunity. The given Speed EVs allow Wobbuffet to outpace most special walls, while the given Defense EVs allow Wobbuffet to take a +6 Body Slam from an uninvested Snorlax.

Once in play, Wobbuffet can proceed to either use Safeguard against predicted status moves, (RC) or use Encore to lock opposing Pokemon into both damaging/ (remove slash) and setup moves. The speed investment allows it to outpace most special walls. The defense allows Wobbuffet to tank a +6 Body Slam from an uninvested Snorlax. Counter is preferred over Mirror Coat, (AC) as it allows Wobbuffett to damage Snorlax locked into a physical move. Destiny Bond ensures that Wobbuffet can finish the job secure trades, even against a special attacking walls.

Against Seismic Toss users, it is advisable to not use Encore the move until Wobbuffet is within 3HKO range. If a trapped Pokemon lacks any damaging moves, Wobbuffet will likely out PP-stall PP stall it due to Counter and Safeguard’s high PP. Wobbuffet may can also defeat faster special walls, such as Jirachi, Ho-Oh, and Latias, if it manages to Encore a damaging move.


Team Options
========
Strong special attackers such as Latios, Latias, Mewtwo, and Kyogre make fine partners to this set, (AC) . (remove full stop) as Wobbuffet can pave the way for them to sweep with its ability to remove special walls from play can remove defensive obstacles in the way of sweep from. Any additional Pokemon that support this cause are desirable teammates. For example, Metagross can be used to remove offensive checks to Wobbuffet, i.e. such as Deoxys-Attack and Latios, and/or as well as secondary special walls in on stall teams.



[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============
With only 8 eight available moves, set Wobbuffet's other options are rather limited. Either Tickle or Charm can be used to prevent physical attackers from successfully setting up. Splash can perhaps force opponents to be timed out as they roll on the floor, bursting in laughter....

Other than to speed alterations to Speed investment, no other EV modification will prove very effective. Investments with 252 HP EVs with and either 252 Defense or 252 Special Defense SpD EVs does not change any crucial 2HKOs into 3HKOs. Most boosted attacks from strong setup sweepers will 2HKO Wobbuffet regardless of its HP investment.


Checks and Counters
===================
A key definition of a counter is having the ability to switch in and remove or force out a target Pokemon. By virtue of its ability in Shadow Tag, it may be said that Wobbuffet does not have any true counters. The best way to defeat it is by exploiting its passive move set moveset and low speed Speed.

**Faster Pokemon**: The easiest way to stop Wobbuffet is by utilizing a fast Taunt user. Taunt Mew/Mewtwo Mew and Mewtwo can bypass Encore, (RC) and proceed to set up on Wobbuffet. Skarmory and Deoxys-D can similarly stop Encore/Safeguard Encore and Safeguard to set up Spikes or use Toxic. That being said, Additionally, any faster Pokemon with the ability to poison or burn Wobbuffet will quickly neutralize it. However, be wary of becoming locked into a status move, as Wobbuffet can set up Safeguard and switch out into a dangerous setup sweeper.

**Counter-trappers**: Dugtrio and Umbreon can counter-trap (hyphen) Wobbuffet. However, In the case of Dugtrio, it Dugtrio must get around Counter to defeat it. Umbreon can trap Wobbuffet with Mean Look and use Baton Pass out into to bring in a setup sweeper, thereby telling the opponent good luck in beating a leaving Wobbuffet helpless against what can eventuate as a fully set-up Pokemon behind a Substitute. If you really dislike your opponent, switch in your own Wobbuffet so that you can waste precious time together.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-type (hyphen) Pokemon with physical moves (such as?) can attack Wobbuffet without the fear of retaliation from Counter due to their Fighting immunity. However, they too should must be wary of Destiny Bond.

**Strong Setup Sweepers**: Strong setup sweepers that can 2HKO Wobbuffet will can force awkward predictions. Kyogre deserves a special mention due to its ability to 2HKO Wobbuffet with its rain-boosted (hyphen) attacks prior to any setup. Therefore, Wobbuffet must win a 50:50 50/50 with either Encore or Mirror Coat to get around Kyogre. Same The same holds true for any setup sweepers that boosts as Wobbuffet switches in, given that it is they will be able to 2HKO Wobbuffet after the setup setting up.

**Self-Destruct and Explosion users**: Lastly, Explosion or Self-Destruct Self-Destruct and Explosion from the likes of Metagross, Forretress, and Snorlax will 1HKO OHKO Wobbuffet, or at least weaken it to the point that it is essentially out of the game.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Noitu, 382514]]
- Quality checked by: [[SuperEpicAmpharos, 306959], [Inspirited, 127823]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]

 

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Hey Noitu please implement Aurora's check and credit her in the credits section. Tag me once you do so and I will give this a final GP check.

 

[Lasen]

went ahead and implemented this check since Noitu has expressed very little interest in returning to writing. This is ready for GP 2.

 

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[OVERVIEW]
Due to its access to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet stands as one of the main trappers in the metagame ADV Ubers, along with Magneton, Dugtrio, and Umbreon. Wobbuffet separates itself from the other trappers like Magneton, Dugtrio, and Umbreon with its superior bulk and the ability to immediately trap any foe. (rp) Shadow Tag has no limitation on what can be trapped, which allows Wobbuffet it to remove at least one opposing Pokemon in most games. In addition, Wobbuffet's access to Encore prevents it from becoming setup fodder, (ac) . (rp) Encore and in conjunction with Shadow Tag can provide its teammates with valuable setup opportunities as well.

However, Wobbuffet's utility in ADV Ubers is limited due to the overall lack of Choice Band item (scarf and specs doesnt exist yet so i'd rather be specific) users, as Pokemon that can utilize Choice Band it often run other items. In addition, most Pokemon carry at least one non-damaging move, which forces Wobbuffet into mind games with Encore. Its passive nature is also exploited by some setup sweepers, meaning that one incorrect read can prove devastating. While Wobbuffet's bulk may ease predictions, its inability to hold Leftovers limits the number of hits it can take: Wobbuffet is banned from holding Leftovers, as Wobbuffet vs. versus Wobbuffet will always result in an unending battle due to ADV's Struggle mechanics.

[SET]
name: Oh, no! It's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Counter
move 2: Mirror Coat
move 3: Encore
move 4: Safeguard / Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Careful / Impish
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
Using Wobbuffet is simple: (replace comma with colon) Lead with it or switch it in for a to revenge kill a foe KO. Given its good bulk, it can also directly switch into some attacks. Thereafter, Encore is usually the move of choice. If the opposing Pokemon is locked into a damaging move, use Counter or Mirror Coat accordingly. If the foe is locked into a status move, take the opportunity to freely switch into a setup sweeper. Safeguard is usually the preferred final move to protect Wobbuffet and other team members from status. This is especially useful for providing setup sweepers with a safe switch into play. Alternatively, Destiny Bond can be used to better deal with Pokemon that lack status moves. Against a foe that can 2HKO or 3HKO Wobbuffet, Destiny Bond can at least either punish further setup or force a trade.

Wobbuffet is best at removing Choice Band item users. These include Deoxys-A, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Metagross, and, (rc) less frequently, (rc) Groudon, Snorlax, and Lugia. No single attack from these Pokemon them can OHKO a full healthy Wobbuffet without a critical hit, (rc) and Counter will easily KO back. Choice Band Heracross not locked into Megahorn can also be removed. Lum Berry is the preferred item to cure Wobbuffet of status once.

Team Options
========
Wobbuffet is a generalist when it comes to trapping. Unless an the opposing Pokemon can outpace Wobbuffet and afflict it with poison or burn, it is they are a target for removal. In theory, Wobbuffet can support any Pokemon.

Since most priority users hold Choice Band, Wobbuffet can give Salac Berry users like Groudon, Heracross, and Kyogre an opportunity to sweep. Removing the likes of Choice Band Deoxys-A and Ho-Oh can also increase the sweeping potential of Pokemon such as Mewtwo, Latios, and Latias.

The combination of Encore and Shadow Tag also makes strong yet frail setup Pokemon good partners, (ac) as they . (rp) Pokemon that usually have a difficult time finding setup opportunities can take advantage of Wobbuffet's ability to provide providing them a safe setup turn. This makes Pokemon such as Belly Drum + Baton Pass Smeargle, Substitute Deoxys-A, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza good teammates. Choice Band Swellow can also be an interesting partner; (as) lock . (rp) Lock a foe into a status move, and switch Swellow in to spam boosted Facades. A teammate with Roar and Whirlwind such as Kyogre, Groudon, and or Ho-Oh can also be used as insurance to prevent foes locked into a setup move from becoming an issue.

[SET]
name: Blob-Removing Blob
move 1: Counter / Mirror Coat
move 2: Safeguard
move 3: Encore
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Def / 44 SpD / 212 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
This set aims to remove most special walls besides Deoxys-D. Slower special walls are all susceptible to being trapped by this set. This includes common special walls such as Blissey and Snorlax. While Dugtrio can also fulfill this role, Wobbuffet's superior bulk gives it the ability to directly switch into these Pokemon. Lum Berry is the preferred item, as it cures Wobbuffet of status once. The given Speed EVs allow Wobbuffet to outpace most special walls, while the given Defense EVs allow Wobbuffet to take a +6 Body Slam from an uninvested Snorlax.

Once in play, Wobbuffet can proceed to either use Safeguard against predicted status moves or use Encore to lock opposing Pokemon into both damaging and setup moves. Counter is preferred over Mirror Coat, as it allows Wobbuffett to damage Snorlax locked into a physical move. Destiny Bond ensures that Wobbuffet can secure trades, even against special attacking walls.

Against Seismic Toss users, it is advisable to not use Encore until Wobbuffet is within 3HKO range. If a trapped Pokemon lacks any damaging moves, Wobbuffet will likely PP stall it due to Counter and Safeguard’s high PP. Wobbuffet can also defeat faster special walls, such as Jirachi, Ho-Oh, and Latias, if it manages to Encore them into a damaging move.

Team Options
========
Strong special attackers such as Latios, Latias, Mewtwo, and Kyogre make fine partners to this set, as Wobbuffet can pave the way for them to sweep with its ability to remove by removing special walls from play. Any additional Pokemon that support this cause are desirable teammates. For example, Metagross can be used to remove offensive checks to Wobbuffet, such as Deoxys-A and Latios, as well as secondary special walls on stall teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============
With only eight available moves, Wobbuffet's other options are rather limited. Either Tickle or Charm can be used to prevent physical attackers from successfully setting up.

Other than alterations to Speed investment, no other EV modification will prove very effective. Investments with 252 HP EVs and either 252 Defense or 252 Special Defense EVs do not change any crucial 2HKOs into 3HKOs. Most boosted attacks from strong setup sweepers will 2HKO Wobbuffet regardless of its HP investment.

Checks and Counters
===================
A key definition of a counter is having the ability to switch in and remove or force out a target Pokemon. By virtue of its ability in Shadow Tag, it may be said that Wobbuffet does not have any true counters. The best way to defeat it is by exploiting its passive moveset and low Speed.

**Faster Pokemon**: The easiest way to stop Wobbuffet is by utilizing a fast Taunt user. Taunt Mew and Mewtwo can bypass Encore and proceed to set up on Wobbuffet. Skarmory and Deoxys-D can similarly stop Encore and Safeguard to set up Spikes or use Toxic. Additionally, any faster Pokemon with the ability to that can poison or burn Wobbuffet will quickly neutralize it. However, be wary of becoming locked into a status move, as Wobbuffet can set up Safeguard and switch out into a dangerous setup sweeper.

**Counter-trappers**: Dugtrio and Umbreon can counter-trap Wobbuffet. However, Dugtrio must get around Counter to defeat it. Umbreon can trap Wobbuffet with Mean Look and use Baton Pass to bring in a setup sweeper, leaving Wobbuffet helpless against what can eventuate as a fully set-up Pokemon behind a Substitute.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-type Pokemon with physical moves such as Gengar and Dusclops can attack Wobbuffet without the fear of retaliation from Counter due to their Fighting immunity. However, they must be wary of Destiny Bond.

**Strong Setup Sweepers**: Strong setup sweepers that can 2HKO Wobbuffet can force awkward predictions. Kyogre deserves a special mention due to its ability to 2HKOing Wobbuffet with its rain-boosted attacks prior to any setup. Therefore, Wobbuffet must win a 50/50 with either Encore or Mirror Coat to get around Kyogre. The same holds true for any setup sweepers that boost as Wobbuffet switches in, given that they will be able to 2HKO Wobbuffet after setting up.

**Self-Destruct and Explosion uUsers**: Self-Destruct and Explosion from the likes of Metagross, Forretress, and Snorlax will OHKO Wobbuffet, or at least weaken Wobbuffet it to the point that it is essentially out of the game.

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[OVERVIEW]
Due to its access to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet stands as one of the main trappers in ADV Ubers, along with Magneton, Dugtrio, and Umbreon. Wobbuffet separates itself from the other trappers with its superior bulk and the ability to immediately trap any foe. Shadow Tag has no limitation on what can be trapped, which allows Wobbuffet to remove at least one opposing Pokemon in most games. In addition, Wobbuffet's access to Encore prevents it from becoming setup fodder. Encore in conjunction with Shadow Tag can provide teammates with valuable setup opportunities as well.

However, Wobbuffet's utility in ADV Ubers is limited due to the overall lack of Choice item Band users, as Pokemon that can utilize Choice Band often run prefer other items. In addition, most Pokemon carry at least one non-damaging move, which forces Wobbuffet into mind games with Encore. Its passive nature is also exploited by some setup sweepers, meaning that one incorrect read can prove devastating. While Wobbuffet's bulk may ease predictions, its inability to hold Leftovers limits the number of hits it can take: Wobbuffet is banned from holding Leftovers, as Wobbuffet vs. Wobbuffet will always result in an unending battle due to ADV's Struggle mechanics.

[SET]
name: Oh, no! It's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Counter
move 2: Mirror Coat
move 3: Encore
move 4: Safeguard / Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Careful / Impish
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
Using Wobbuffet is simple. Lead with it or switch it in for a revenge KO. Given its good bulk, it can also directly switch into some attacks. Thereafter, Encore is usually the move of choice. If the opposing Pokemon is locked into a damaging move, use Counter or Mirror Coat accordingly. If the foe is locked into a status move, take the opportunity to freely switch into a setup sweeper. Safeguard is usually the preferred final move to protect Wobbuffet and other team members from status. This is especially useful for providing setup sweepers with a safe switch into play. Alternatively, Destiny Bond can be used to better deal with Pokemon that lack status moves. Against a foe that can 2HKO or 3HKO Wobbuffet, Destiny Bond can at least either punish further setup or force a trade.

Wobbuffet is best at removing Choice item users. These include Deoxys-A, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Metagross, and, less frequently, Groudon, Snorlax, and Lugia. No single attack from these Pokemon can OHKO a full health-health (add hyphen) Wobbuffet without a critical hit, and Counter will easily KO back. Choice Band Heracross not locked into Megahorn can also be removed. Lum Berry is the preferred item to cure Wobbuffet of status once.

Team Options
========
Wobbuffet is a generalist when it comes to trapping. Unless an opposing Pokemon can outpace Wobbuffet and afflict it with poison or burn, it is a target for removal. In theory, Wobbuffet can support any Pokemon.

Since most priority users hold Choice Band, Wobbuffet can give Salac Berry users like Groudon, Heracross, and Kyogre an opportunity to sweep. Removing the likes of Choice Band Deoxys-A and Ho-Oh can also increase the sweeping potential of Pokemon such as Mewtwo, Latios, and Latias.

The combination of Encore and Shadow Tag also makes strong yet frail setup Pokemon good partners. Pokemon that usually have a difficult time finding setup opportunities can take advantage of Wobbuffet's ability to provide a safe setup turn. This makes Pokemon such as Belly Drum + Baton Pass Smeargle, Substitute Deoxys-A, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza good teammates. Choice Band Swellow can also be an interesting partner. L; simply lock a foe into a status move, and switch Swellow in to, and freely spam boosted Facade. A teammate with Roar and Whirlwind such as Kyogre, Groudon, and Ho-Oh can also be used as insurance to prevent foes locked into a setup move from becoming an issue.


[SET]
name: Blob-Removing Blob
move 1: Counter / Mirror Coat
move 2: Safeguard
move 3: Encore
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Def / 44 SpD / 212 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
This set aims to remove most special walls besides Deoxys-D. Slower special walls are all susceptible to being trapped by this set. This includes common special walls such as Blissey and Snorlax. While Dugtrio can also fulfill this role, Wobbuffet's superior bulk gives it the ability to directly switch into these Pokemon. Lum Berry is the preferred item, as it cures Wobbuffet of status once. The given Speed EVs allow Wobbuffet to outpace most special walls, while the given Defense EVs allow Wobbuffet to take a +6 Body Slam from an uninvested Snorlax.

Once in play, Wobbuffet can proceed to either use Safeguard against predicted status moves or use Encore to lock opposing Pokemon into both damaging and setup moves. Counter is preferred over Mirror Coat, as it allows Wobbuffett to damage Snorlax locked into a physical move. Destiny Bond ensures that Wobbuffet can secure trades, even against special attacking walls.

Against Seismic Toss users, it is advisable to not use Encore until Wobbuffet is within 3HKO range. If a trapped Pokemon lacks any damaging moves, Wobbuffet will likely PP stall it due to Counter and Safeguard’s high PP. Wobbuffet can also defeat faster special walls, such as Jirachi, Ho-Oh, and Latias, if it manages to Encore a damaging move.

Team Options
========
Strong special attackers such as Latios, Latias, Mewtwo, and Kyogre make fine partners tofor this set, as Wobbuffet can pave the way for them to sweep with its ability to remove special walls from play. Any additional Pokemon that support this cause are desirable teammates. For example, Metagross can be used to remove offensive checks to Wobbuffet, such as Deoxys-A and Latios, as well as secondary special walls on stall teams.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============
With only eight available moves, Wobbuffet's other options are rather limited. Either Tickle or Charm can be used to prevent physical attackers from successfully setting up.

Other than alterations to Speed investment, no other EV modification will prove very effective. InvestmentSpreads with 252 HP EVs and either 252 Defense or 252 Special Defense EVs do not change any crucial 2HKOs into 3HKOs. Most boosted attacks from strong setup sweepers will 2HKO Wobbuffet regardless of its HP investment.

Checks and Counters
===================
A key definition of a counter is having the ability to switch in and remove or force out a target Pokemon. By virtue of its ability in Shadow Tag, it may be said that Wobbuffet does not have any true counters. The best way to defeat it is by exploiting its passive moveset and low Speed.

**Faster Pokemon**: The easiest way to stop Wobbuffet is by utilizing a fast Taunt user. Taunt Mew and Mewtwo can bypass Encore and proceed to set up on Wobbuffet. Skarmory and Deoxys-D can similarly stop Encore and Safeguard to set up Spikes or use Toxic. Additionally, any faster Pokemon with the ability to poison or burn Wobbuffet will quickly neutralize it. However, be wary of becoming locked into a status move, as Wobbuffet can set up Safeguard and switch out into a dangerous setup sweeper.

**Counter-trappers**: Dugtrio and Umbreon can counter-trap Wobbuffet. However, Dugtrio must get around Counter to defeat it. Umbreon can trap Wobbuffet with Mean Look and use Baton Pass to bring in a setup sweeper, leaving Wobbuffet helpless against what can eventuate as a fully set-up Pokemons the foe sets up safely behind a Substitute.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-type Pokemon with physical moves such as Gengar and Dusclops can attack Wobbuffet without the fear of retaliation from Counter due to their Fighting immunity. However, they must be wary of Destiny Bond.

**Strong Setup Sweepers**: Strong setup sweepers that can 2HKO Wobbuffet can force awkward predictions. Kyogre deserves a special mention due to its ability to 2HKO Wobbuffet with its rain-boosted attacks prior to any setup. Therefore, Wobbuffet must win a 50/50 with either Encore or Mirror Coat to get around Kyogre. The same holds true for any setup sweepers that boost as Wobbuffet switches in, given that they will be able tocan 2HKO Wobbuffet after setting up.

**Self-Destruct and Explosion users**: Self-Destruct and Explosion from the likes of Metagross, Forretress, and Snorlax will OHKO Wobbuffet, or at least weaken it to the point that it is essentially out of the game.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Noitu, 382514]]
- Quality checked by: [[SuperEpicAmpharos, 306959], [Inspirited, 127823]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Aurora, 109385], [username2, userid2dex, 277988]]

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