[Tournament Proposal] making RBY more consistent with other generations

[gastlies]

Hi all, I have a some proposals to make RBY more consistent with later gens since consistency is very important in team tours.

1. Bo1 - this is obvious lol why is RBY the only gen that’s Bo3

2. Patch 1/256 - other gens have their 100% accurate moves hit all the time so RBY should be like this for consistency

3. Fix crit rates - other gens have fixed crit rates not based on speed so why should RBY be an exception? feels inconsistent imo

4. Add in “modern elements” it’s kinda inconsistent that RBY is the only gen without held items, spatk/spdef stats, and other stuff. We can also add things like abilities and the physical-special split too.

5. Mod in Landorus-Therian - In order to be consistent with other generations I feel like RBY should have Landorus-Therian so all the tiers are consistent

6. Add Tera to all oldgens - this isn’t RBY specific but i feel it’s kinda inconsistent for current gen to have tera while old gens don’t

Thoughts on this proposal? I think these should be implemented for SPL in order to increase consistency across tiers, thanks for reading.

 

[Magic Mayhem Maiden]

Dynamax does exist in all generations, but it's also banned in all generations.

 

[gvmgvm40]

Thoughts on this proposal? I think these should be implemented for SPL in order to increase consistency across tiers, thanks for reading.

can we also ban snorlax in GSC for overcentralization? 100% usage last spl lol it's ridiculous, it'd be banned in any other gen

since it's clearly uncompetitive I propose we quickban it the day before the signups. I'm sure the GSC community will be thankful

 

[BigFatMantis]

You forgot some key items:

7. Team Preview - RBY doesn’t have team preview, which makes it impossible to sort your mons pre fight to take advantage of Zoroark’s Illusion ability. We need to patch in preview as well as Zoroark.

8. Change Clefable’s type to Fairy - Clefable is a Fairy type on all other generations and quite good competitively so its typing should change in RBY. Also mod in Body Slam to still get the STAB bonus anyways because it really needs it.

9. Add the Rotom forms - the Rotom forms have defined many tiers for many generations, but they’re absent in RBY. This is likely because there is no Rotom in RBY. As a result, we need to add the form changes but instead apply them to Magneton to stay true to the RBY cartridge.

10. Add in Baton Pass - it’s very unfair to RBY that we never get any Baton Pass drama. To fix this, we have to add Baton Pass into all RBY tiers but then slowly and complexly issue bans around its usage over the course of 8 years before finally banning it for good. Then unban it the year later.

This should round off the top 10, hope we can fix this soon.

 

[Egor]

i think players should be allowed to gentleman on whether they play with 1/256 misses or not. this agreement will be enforced. if no 1/256 miss happened in a game players agreed to have em in, the result is overturned and the players are infracted. repeated offense will result in a tourban

 

[pulsar512b]

can we also ban snorlax in GSC for overcentralization? 100% usage last spl lol it's ridiculous, it'd be banned in any other gen

since it's clearly uncompetitive I propose we quickban it the day before the signups. I'm sure the GSC community will be thankful

i think this is a genuine thing we can discuss fwiw but definitely not as a qb and its very unclear if its correct

 

[1LDK]

if we are making clef fairy then might aswell add jirachi and latias to the game, also add stealth rock in gen 1

 

[Bedal Roscoe]

Freeze should be banned in RBY, it is so uncompetitive and unhealthy.

Add Sleep Talk in RBY too, to nerf sleep.

 

[Heroic Troller]

I didn't think it was possible to miss the meeps posts before this thread

 

[awyp]

Add iron head jirachi and allow it to have an ability called serene grace

 

[Mechalico]

conversely, i propose that wrap in all gens gets changed to gen 1 wrap to make the move more viable

 

[gvmgvm40]

i think this is a genuine thing we can discuss fwiw but definitely not as a qb and its very unclear if its correct

I feel like my decision wasn't communicated clearly enough. it's smogon policy to make the simplest and most consistent decision with the least amount of input from people who play the game (lol losers, imagine playing pokemon). not gonna change until you pester chaos bud

 

[cookie]

6. Add Tera to all oldgens - this isn’t RBY specific but i feel it’s kinda inconsistent for current gen to have tera while old gens don’t

loled

 

[gvmgvm40]

Freeze should be banned in RBY, it is so uncompetitive and unhealthy.

clearly the only logical solution, to stay loyal to cartridge mechanics and to avoid complex bans, is to ban every pokemon who learns a move that can freeze. it's a sacrifice I'd be willing to make on behalf of rby players for the sake of consistency

edit: thank you for policy review access kind stranger

 

[Teh]

I think we should ban Arena Trap to stay consistent with newer gens as well. It makes no sense for RBY to have Arena Trap legal while gens 4+ have it banned

 

[faint]

I Used a Generation 1 Strategy in a Big Pokemon Tournament

 

[awyp]

I think we should ban Arena Trap to stay consistent with newer gens as well. It makes no sense for RBY to have Arena Trap legal while gens 4+ have it banned

arena trap ban is a skill issue, wym you're trapped?

 

[BIG ASHLEY]

admiral ackbar be like: it's a trap! lol.

 

[Let's go shuckles]

Normal types suck in other gens but are good in gen 1. Add steel types, make fighting types not suck, nerf hyper beam and let body slam paralyze normal types to bring them more in line with future gens.

 

[BP]

throw all of these suggestions in the garbage tbh they are all bad. The only way to actually fix RBY is to enable badge boosts

 

[gvmgvm40]

throw all of these suggestions in the garbage tbh they are all bad. The only way to actually fix RBY is to enable badge boosts

what's the boost for ladybug

 

[Geodude6]

what's the boost for ladybug

it doesn't, just like the games

 

[Geodude6]

We should let Waterfall flinch so that Seaking has a niche