Suspect SV AAA Suspect Test #2: Fur Coat and Ice Scales

[Lyna]

s/o Osake for team <3

 

[Siegfried]

Confirming as FURSCApollon

 

[RL]

s/o Osake for team and no s/o Givra ☯ (l2p )

 

[z2freezy]

Fursca gotta go no gholden

 

[shadowpea]

well that was hellish

will vote ban

https://pokepast.es/c458fd4c73a179fc (edited) by Grim_Blazer and friends broken team
https://pokepast.es/9b11249e0cf7f9b6 by Uninteleon fun team
https://pokepast.es/c6dfdae27230a23f by glimmeraqua beautiful shocker team use shocker and pretend dnite dont exist

 

[tzaur]

Was incredibly close to another undefeated run, but I randomly got farmed and haxed to death by a random Levitate Iron Moth with Discharge on my 23rd match. Wasn't very impressed with any of the teams I tried, so I just used an adjusted version of Isaiah's stall team that he built much earlier on in the meta.

 

[Blitz]

Similar to tzaur: tried a bunch of teams, didn't mesh well with most of them (my first 4 losses were in the first 15 matches), then I took the ^ above stall team and ran with the rest. Thanks for the carry.

Ban these abilities lol

 

[shiloh]

pls ban and whens ompl

 

[BrainDamageHaver]

:)

 

[uMilks]

Gonna be voting to ban FurScales, hate that stuff

 

[Quantum Tesseract]

Building without ice scales was hell, building without fur coat was mildly annoying but easily doable. As such, I think ice scales definitely needs to go. It warps the metagame around it to an absurd extent, rendering essentially all other forms of walling special pokemon irrelevant. In addition to the normal negative of overcentralization, it is also so much better at this task that matches often come down to how your breakers match up against their ice scales user; if you don't have a good load into their scales, you're entirely reliant on physical mons to make progress, and if you do they cant do shit to stop you.

Fur coat, meanwhile, has plenty of real competition. There are some pokemon, like ceruledge, that you can basically only wall with FC, but they're both fewer in number than the scales equivalent and there are other alternatives for specific ones if you end up with your FC of choice losing to one of them. I've also run FC no recovery tanks and had both healthy interactions and not spent long bemoaning the lack of defensive core the way I did for scales. I might change my mind and want it suspected again in a few months (Once we've banned the dumb special attackers ice scales has been papering over and have a more free meta) but for the current moment I will be voting DNB on fur coat.

 

[anaconja]

thanks to blunder for bringing in players i can win against, tried at the beginning of the suspect and it was about as fun as pulling your teeth out

edit: and pokeaim

 

[UT]

The voting thread is live! If you have any issues, DM me or another OM leader!

 

[Isaiah]

Both are banned