Metagame Suicide Cup

[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d]

Would Dugtrio or Mamoswine be the better Stealth Rock setter in a non-NatDex Court Change team? I believe they're the two best SR setters in the non-NatDex meta because Dugtrio is the fastest and has Arena Trap, while Mamoswine is the fastest setter with Oblivious (and is neutral to SR, while Dugtrio resists). Mamoswine scouts for anti-Court Change tactics more poorly, though.

Dugtrio is the fastest SR setter and can trap Magic Bounce users for a guaranteed SR, while Mamo is immune to Taunt and thus isn't as vulnerable to faster taunters like Prankster Sableye or Weavile. Overall, I'd go with Duggy almost always. Trapping allows a smooth switch into Cinderace on a mon that usually doesn't have Taunt so u can gurantee the Court Change. Mamo can set up on Weavile sure but when you switch into Cinderace then you're just getting taunted anyways.


Gen8 Sets:

Below is a list of sets with descriptions on how to use a good majority of viable mons currently found:

Sets

Darminitan-Galar
https://pokepast.es/a7f765de1a8d92e9

Sableye
https://pokepast.es/7780113ea83c6cb2

Bronzor
https://pokepast.es/07b12bb090e8fe20

Hawlucha
https://pokepast.es/52bb1e51cfb81f26

Gothitelle
https://pokepast.es/e16064dad2d4a6d3

Cinderace
https://pokepast.es/b0f72fbc978f6b68

Cutiefly family
https://pokepast.es/b1f637ff60e1bbb6

Snom
https://pokepast.es/4d3409289d7c035a

Linoone-Galar
https://pokepast.es/47bbde28b614fbb9

Charizard
https://pokepast.es/32fb63a6e1cf6714

Dugtrio
https://pokepast.es/c4b813c9cbba31f7

Ferroseed
https://pokepast.es/ee3c16240e0e9e97

Silvally
https://pokepast.es/12e084b2f769a5d8

Raltz family
https://pokepast.es/ffecf5657ad67f6c

Cottonee family
https://pokepast.es/d87858c7f967baab

Wimpod
https://pokepast.es/ae99a742c2808b3b

Trubbish
https://pokepast.es/ec89e8fe63b16c7f

Accelgor
https://pokepast.es/04e7dccd5f1c4c4d

Weavile
https://pokepast.es/c60e6baa8a869f14

Togedemaru
https://pokepast.es/1a5836ecc45fc7bc

Kommo-o
https://pokepast.es/4ca7d0ac718efaf3

 

[flying moose]

Amazing compilations. I’m now thoroughly convinced that Steel Beam will be meta-defining.

Based on the flavor of the move, it really doesn’t sound like Steel Beam would be blocked by Damp like Mind Blown was, but has anyone tested it to make sure?

Also, Xatu now has a more important niche than last gen as a magic bouncer that can’t be trapped by Dugtrio, unlike Espeon and Hatterene.

 

[CringeMeta]

Just to let people know, the Gen 8 thread is up now!

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/suicide-cup.3657270/