Project SS PU Victim of the Week | Week 2 - Sneasel (Submissions)

[wooper]

Silvally-Psychic @ Psychic Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Multi-Attack
- X-Scissor
- U-turn​

nominating vally-psychic as an offensive check to specs mr. rime. vally can switch in on both specs psychic and focus blast with ease, even with rocks up, and retaliate with either x-scissor (instead of crunch to bypass potential colbur berries on other psychic types) or u-turn, both of which can ohko at +2. specs ice beam and shadow ball from rime are guaranteed 2hkos back on vally however, so you must play correctly vs it!

attacking calcs

252 Atk Silvally-Psychic X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 180-212 (59.8 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Silvally-Psychic U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 158-186 (52.4 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Psychic X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 356-420 (118.2 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Psychic U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 312-368 (103.6 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

defending calcs

252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Psychic: 102-120 (30.8 - 36.2%) -- 59.7% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Psychic: 204-241 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Psychic: 242-286 (73.1 - 86.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Psychic: 90-107 (27.1 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[Rubicon]

Well, you hate to see it happen: me disclosing a way to take out one of my boyz, but...

Pikachu @ Light Ball
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Extreme Speed
- Knock Off
- Volt Tackle​

FreekachuPikachu is here to put Mr. Rime in check. While everything (including Shadow Ball, which has a 68.8% chance to instantly KO) Mr. Rime has holds killing power, Pikachu has speed on his side, being able to KO with a Knock Off or Volt Tackle, depending on your line of thinking: Knock Off for if you'd care to let something else lose their item if they want to switch out, or Volt Tackle for sheer power

Attacking calculations

252 Atk Light Ball Pikachu Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 314-370 (104.3 - 122.9%)
252 Atk Light Ball Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 289-342 (96 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO, guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

 

[dhilandesaiisgay]

reserving dusknoir again

Nominating AV Dusknoir as a counter to Specs Rime

Dusknoir @ Assault Vest
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Power-Up Punch
Dusknoir serves as an excellent counter to Mr. Rime, as both of its STABs do unimpressive damage, it’s immune to Focus Blast and its SE coverage move in Shadow Ball can’t even 2HKO Dusknoir. In addition to this, Dusknoir’s STAB Shadow Sneak will ALWAYS move first and cleanly 2HKO Rime. Power-Up Punch raise attack, although it is often unnecessary. Earthquake barely misses out on the 2HKO, and Ice Punch is just there for coverage.

Defensive Calcs

252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Dusknoir: 120-142 (40.8 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Dusknoir: 102-120 (34.6 - 40.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Dusknoir: 79-94 (26.8 - 31.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. Dusknoir: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever]

Offensive Calcs

252+ Atk Dusknoir Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 152-182 (50.4 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dusknoir Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 127-150 (42.1 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Dusknoir Power-Up Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 51-61 (16.9 - 20.2%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Dusknoir Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 48-56 (15.9 - 18.6%) -- possible 6HKO

 

[Obstabooze]

Well, here goes an offensive check for Mr. CRime:

Linoone-G @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Quick Feet
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Sp Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Facade
- Taunt/Switcheroo
- Parting Shot
​

So with the good ol Toxic Orb set you can get an OHKO most of the time and a guaranteed one after a little bit of chip (like 10%) with Knock Off, and you will always outspeed Rime with or without your ability activated. Facade is there to get some STAB and it can OHKO 12% of the time after Rocks damage.

Parting Shot is a nice way to keep the offensive momentum; and the last slot can be filled depending of what you want to do with this average sized racoon. Taunt can prevent a switch in from setting up, Switcheroo to cripple something that comes in.

And let's not forget the fact that it is inmune to both Psychic and Shadow Ball so it has an easier time getting in.

Damage Calcs

252 Atk Linoone-Galar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 270-318 (89.7 - 105.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO; guaranteed after Stealth Rock; guaranteed OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes
252 Atk Linoone-Galar Facade (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 195-229 (64.7 - 76%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

 

[BulbaBrain]

Scarf Stonjourner as an offensive check

Stonjourner @ Choice Scarf
Jolly Nature
Ability: Power Spot
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Heat Crash
- Stealth Rock​

Not much to say here, can't believe I got this pick as well. Heck, you OHKO with the two super effective moves so you dont even have to worry about Rime's offensive power. I think Rime is sadly easy to beat offensively because of its bad defensive typing but hey.
252 Atk Stonjourner Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 404-476 (134.2 - 158.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 324-382 (107.6 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Heavy Slam can be used over heat crash but for now i'll stick with heat crash. Heavy slam also has the same calc.
Now that you know how this works, please vote for this most straightforward, viable, fast, threatening and stonehenge nomination :D.

Seriously though, thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed.

 

[dhilandesaiisgay]

Whens the voting phase going to begin?

 

[i ship no one cuz im cool]

So, uh, when is this going to start up again?

 

[kakaks]

Heatmor @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 176 HP / 120 Spa / 212 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Overheat
- Focus Blast
- Giga Drain
- Scorching Sands
Scarf heatmor can kill mr rime easily ( 120 SpA Heatmor Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mr. Rime: 326-386 (108.3 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO ) by outspeeding and ohkoing mr rime with overheat. the evs are to not get ohkoed by it, kill it and outspeed it. the other 3 moveslots are the only coverage heatmor gets.

 

[gum]

hi! so yeah this is still a thing, but due the meta changing a ton there's (sadly) no point in having a voting stage for last round. anyway, this round's victim is...


bubblegum bitch (Bouffalant) @ Choice Band
Ability: Reckless / Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Charge
- Throat Chop
- Earthquake
- Close Combat / Megahorn / Toxic

one of pu's newest additions, bouffalant has already proven to be an incredible breaker with its choice band set, allowing it to plow through some of the tier's sturdiest physical walls like tangela with a reckless-boosted stab head charge. however, it's quite easy to take advantage of once it's locked into a move, and its mediocre speed tier leaves it prone to getting revenge killed by faster threats.

submission phase ends thursday evening, lmk if you have any questions! good luck, and have fun!

ban bouff

 

[Cheezy]

reserving gladiator boi falinks

Falinks @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- First Impression
- Throat Chop
- Zen Headbutt​

Check. Falinks out speeds and OHKOs with CC but it can't take the literally only move that Bouff always spams against me in battle. It can switch in on the other coverage though.

252 Atk Life Orb Falinks Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 445-525 (112.9 - 133.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Rubicon]

Holding on to Dubwool

Dubwool @ Leftovers
Ability: Fluffy
EVs: 96 HP / 252 Def / 160 Spe
Impish Nature
- Cotton Guard
- Body Press
- Payback
- Rest​

How do you keep all that puffy hair in check? With a bunch of puffy wool. If Close Combat is absent though, it slides closer to being a counter. But alas...
All it takes is a turn to puff up the cotton guard, after which Dubwool's not taking any bull, dispatching him right away with a Body Press. Also, I'm not sure who came up with the "standard" 152 EVs in speed, but 160 EVs (giving him an extra 2 points in speed, chipping his HP down to 309) helps him edge out Hitmonchan and full-speed Flareon.

Defending calculations (no Cotton Guard boosts)

252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Head Charge vs. 96 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Dubwool: 103-122 (33.3 - 39.4%)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Earthquake vs. 96 HP / 252+ Def Dubwool: 115-136 (37.2 - 44%)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Close Combat vs. 96 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Dubwool: 138-163 (44.6 - 52.7%)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Megahorn vs. 96 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Dubwool: 69-81 (22.3 - 26.2%)
(Throat Chop's not even worth mentioning, besides that it merely prevents the use of Sleep Talk on the first turn of Rest)

Defending calculations (with Cotton Guard)

252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Head Charge vs. +3 96 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Dubwool: 42-49 (13.5 - 15.8%) (even the damage calculator goes into "Possibly the worst move ever" territory with this)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Earthquake vs. +3 96 HP / 252+ Def Dubwool: 46-55 (14.8 - 17.7%)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Close Combat vs. +3 96 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Dubwool: 56-66 (18.1 - 21.3%)

Attacking calculations

252+ Def Dubwool Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 168-198 (50.7 - 59.8%)
252+ Def Dubwool Body Press vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 250-296 (75.5 - 89.4%) (this is after he hits something with Close Combat, which comes with an 18.8% chance to KO after a layer of hazards)
+3 252+ Def Dubwool Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 416-490 (125.6 - 148%)

 

[Katy]

reserving dusclops


Dusclops @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

makes up for a great check to Bouffalant, as it can come in on its physical normal-type move in head charge and its ground-coverage in earthquake very easily, while threatening bouffalant with a toxic which puts this bull on a timer or it can use seismic toss to slowly wear down its health. furthermore dusclops can switch into throat chop as the maximized ev-stat and eviolite allows it to tank a super effective throat chop fairly easy. but dusclops has to be wary about switching into a throat chop when it is already weakened due to entry-hazards or chip damage. close combat also wont hit dusclops and its other coverage in megahorn will not do much damage either. when bouffalant uses toxic dusclops is still able to cure the toxic with using rest, therefore dusclops is one of the best checks to bouffalant.

calcs:

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252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Throat Chop vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 102-122 (36 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 64-76 (22.6 - 26.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 38-45 (13.4 - 15.9%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Oathkeeper]

Falinks @ Lum Berry
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Zen Headbutt
- Throat Chop

Check. Falinks doesn't want to take any hit from Banded AfroBull since it just flat out hurts. Even Head Charge OHKOs, so a safe switch in for this thing is required. Should that happen, Falinks easily outspeeds and OHKOs even with an unboosted CC despite Bouff's already great natural bulk

Calcs

Bouffalant attacks
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Head Charge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Falinks: 286-337 (105.5 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Falinks: 159-188 (58.6 - 69.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Falinks: 191-225 (70.4 - 83%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Throat Chop vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Falinks: 63-75 (23.2 - 27.6%) -- 77.5% chance to 4HKO

Falinks attacks
252 Atk Falinks Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 342-404 (103.3 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[wooper]

Hitmonchan @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Throat Chop
- Thunder Punch
- Mach Punch​

LO hitmonchan serves as an offensive check to banded bouffalant. with max attack and speed and an adamant nature, you are naturally faster and easily ohko with drain punch: 252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Hitmonchan Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 377-447 (113.8 - 135%) -- guaranteed OHKO.

 

[gum]

a world alone (Gourgeist-Super) @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Synthesis
- Will-O-Wisp
- Skill Swap
- Foul Play

check. could be a counter but it can easily get overwhelmed by throat chop + rocks after it has consumed its colbur berry, as well as potential toxic damage. everything else does pitiful damage, although megahorn forces u to synthesis. probably the best "switchin" the tier has to offer to bouff after dubwool, although still a rather shaky one. the set itself doesn't need much explaining, with synth providing recovery, wow burning stuff, and foul play being its best option in the current meta.

checks

by Rubicon
by Katy
by Oathkeepre
by sexywooper
by gum

counters

none :(

vote for 2 checks. voting phase ends sunday, don't hesitate to poke me if im late :)

 

[Oathkeeper]

 

[Rubicon]

Hitmonchan & Falinks
No counters though? Dayum

 

[wooper]

dubwool & falinks

 

[Chloe]

 

[Katy]

dubwool & falinks

 

[Raahel]

Dubwool and Dusclops

 

[gum]

the winners are dubwool by Rubicon and dusclops by Katy. congrats! your submissions will be added to the archives (when i stop being lazy)

this week's victim is...


carousel (Klinklang) @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 160 SpD / 96 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Toxic
- Protect
- Gear Grind
- Shift Gear

an excellent typing, setup move, and respectable attack have made klinklang one of the tier's best defensive pivot and setup sweeper. however, its overreliance on toxic to get past its would-be answers have led to multiple pokemon starting to run rest. due to its average attack uninvested, even boosted, klinklang has trouble with getting past even its offensive checks.

submission phase ends thursday / friday. good luck and have fun!!

ban klink lol

 

[Katy]

mareanie


Mareanie @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Toxic Spikes
- Haze

is a solid counter to klinklang as it has a great bulk with the eviolite and gear grind isnt super effective on mini pex. furthermore it is able to scald-burn klinklang which makes klinklang unable to function as a lategame-option. furthermore mareanie can setup toxic spikes to annoy klinklangs teammates, regenerator and recover makes up for mareanie's potential to always counter klinklang. haze is great to swipe away the boosts klinklang got due to the use of shift gear. overall mareanie acts like a great counter to klinklang.

calcs:

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0 SpA Mareanie Scald vs. 252 HP / 160 SpD Klinklang: 43-52 (13.2 - 16%) -- possible 9HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 36-42 (11.8 - 13.8%) -- approx. possible 7HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 52-62 (17.1 - 20.4%) -- approx. possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 70-84 (23.1 - 27.7%) -- approx. 4HKO after Stealth Rock
+3 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 86-102 (28.3 - 33.6%) -- approx. 99.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+4 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 104-124 (34.3 - 40.9%) -- approx. 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+5 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 120-144 (39.6 - 47.5%) -- approx. 41.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Procopius]

I nominate defensive Throh as a counter to Klinklang

Throh (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Guts
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spe
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Circle Throw
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Calculations

Defending Calculations:

0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Throh: 86-104 (19.4 - 23.5%) -- approx. possible 5HKO
+1 0 Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Throh: 132-156 (29.8 - 35.2%) -- approx. 7.2% chance to 3HKO
Rocky Helmet damage to Klinklang on on Gear Grind: Approximately 33%

Attacking Calculation:

0 Atk Throh Circle Throw vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Klinklang: 116-138 (35.8 - 42.5%)

Defensive Throh with a rocky helmet poses multiple challenges to Klinklang. It is safe to switch in any time that Klinkland is in, as it is 5hkoed without setup, and likely 4hkoed if Klinklang uses shift gear on the switch. With rocky helmet, Klinklang takes ~33% damage every time it attacks Throh. If it chooses to set up instead, it is heavily damaged and phased out with circle throw. If it chooses to toxic stall, Throh reveals rest and regains any lost HP.

Unlike other Pokemon that use rest to nullify toxic, Throh is not a momentum drain to its team. Sleep talk is a fairly free moveslot for Throh, and allows Throh to threaten damage and phasing while asleep. Throh is also a nearly mandatory slot for hazard stacking teams, meaning that you don't have to build your playstyle around a niche Klinklang counter. For these reasons, I think defensive Throh is the best Klinklang counter in the current meta.

 

[Raahel]

Dugtrio-Alola