ZU SS AV Ludicolo [DONE]

[5Dots]

Raining
[SET]
name: Special Tank
move 1: Scald
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Knock Off
item: Assault Vest
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Modest
evs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ludicolo is a decent special tank thanks its wide coverage, offensive movepool, and unique set of resistances. Scald and Giga Drain both synergize with Assault Vest: Scald dishes out burns, helping Ludicolo take physical attacks better, while Giga Drain provides extra longevity. Ice Beam targets Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Ludicolo's STAB moves like Altaria, Exeggutor, and Ivysaur. Knock Off cripples entry hazard removers like Articuno and Cryogonal, as well as walls like Clefairy and Alcremie. Crippling walls, alongside checking offensive Stealth Rock users like Rhydon, Piloswine, and Alolan Dugtrio with its typing and bulk, lets Ludicolo provide some early-game utility. Assault Vest allows Ludicolo to check special attackers like Rotom, Jynx, and Poliwrath.

Ludicolo appreciates walls like Cofagrigus and Tangela switching into physical attackers like Sawk, Lycanroc-N, and Gourgeist-S; in return, they appreciate it blanket checking special attackers. Once Ludicolo has crippled Defog and Rapid Spin users with Knock Off, partners like Rhydon and Alolan Dugtrio can more easily keep Stealth Rock up. This helps all sorts of offensive partners wallbreak and sweep. Notably, physical attackers like Sawk and Klinklang can take advantage of special walls that wall Ludicolo, using the momentum to have an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Both sets can use Leaf Storm or Energy Ball to replace Giga Drain; however, Ludicolo does not appreciate Leaf Storm’s Special Attack drops and Energy Ball's lack of passive recovery, the latter either exacerbating Life Orb recoil or limiting Ludicolo's longevity as a tank.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Specially Defensive Pokemon**: Some Pokemon such as Articuno and Type: Null can stomach a rain-boosted Hydro Pump and fire back with a super effective move like Freeze-Dry or U-turn, although neither appreciates losing its held item to Assault Vest Ludicolo.

**Super Effective Attacks and Coverage**: Sweeper Ludicolo's subpar defenses and base Speed leave it exposed to super effective attacks from foes such as Qwilfish and Silvally-Flying when rain is not active. Setting up Rain Dance is difficult against walls with super effective coverage like Altaria and Tangela, with Life Orb recoil being a huge factor as well. Pokemon like Thwackey and Silvally-Dark sporting super effective coverage like U-turn can also hamper setup opportunities.

**Priority Moves**: Priority move users such as Thwackey, Flapple, and Gurdurr can revenge kill a weakened Ludicolo, with the former two forcing Ludicolo to use Ice Beam—and take Life Orb recoil without Giga Drain healing, if applicable—should they not cleanly take it out. Kangaskhan not only has the fearsome Fake Out + Sucker Punch combination, but it can strategically use Fake Out to waste Ludicolo's remaining turns of rain.

**Shedinja**: Shedinja is immune to all of rain sweeper Ludicolo's attacks. Using Protect, it can even scout for Knock Off from Assault Vest variants of Ludicolo on non-rain teams.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454], [5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tuthur, 369076], [S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [Jett, 226429]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Adeleine, 517429]]

 

[5Dots]

Ready for QC!

 

[Jett]

qc 1/2 - tuthur, i stole a cookie from the cookie monster before i did this qc

add remove comments

[SET]
name: Special Tank
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Knock Off
item: Assault Vest
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Modest
evs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ludicolo is a decent special tank thanks its wide coverage, and offensive movepool, and unique set of resistances. Giga Drain's recovery increases Ludicolo's effective HP which synergizes greatly with Assault Vest. (Feel free to reword this sentence to fit better) Ice Beam targets Altaria, Exeggutor, and Ivysaur. Knock Off cripples hazard removers like Articuno and Cryogonal, as well as walls like Clefairy and Alcremie. Assault Vest allows Ludicolo to check Rotom, Jynx, and Poliwrath.

Ludicolo appreciates walls like Palossand, Cofagrigus and Tangela switching into physical attackers like Klinklang (Choose a different physical attacker, Ludicolo does a lot to Klang but resists Gear Grind so actually does OK into it if at full health), Sawk, and Gourgeist-Small; in return, they appreciate it blanket checking the aforementioned special attackers. Ludicolo can also provide early-game utility with Knock Off and threaten various walls like Altaria, Stunfisk, and Tangela with its vast coverage, while also checking offensive Stealth Rock users like Rhydon, Piloswine, and Alolan Dugtrio with its typing and bulk. However, it should be wary of their own coverage or Toxic. Other physical attackers like Sawk and Klinklang can take advantage of Ludicolo weakening physical walls to have an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Both sets can use Scald or Leaf Storm to replace one of its STAB moves, respectively; however, Ludicolo does not appreciate Scald’s lower power or Leaf Storm’s defense Special Attack drops.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Specially Defensive Pokemon**: Some Pokemon such as Articuno and Type: Null can stomach a rain-boosted Hydro Pump and fire back with a super effective move like Freeze-Dry or U-turn, although neither appreciate losing its held item.

**Super Effective Attacks**: Ludicolo's subpar defenses and base Speed leave it exposed to super effective attacks from foes such as Accelgor, Silvally-Flying, and Skuntank when rain is not active. Setting up Rain Dance is difficult against walls with super effective coverage like Altaria and Tangela, with Life Orb recoil being a huge factor as well.

**Priority Moves**: Priority move users such as Thwackey, Flapple, and Gurdurr can revenge kill a weakened Ludicolo, with the former two forcing Ludicolo to use Ice Beam—and take Life Orb recoil without Giga Drain healing—if they do not cleanly take it out. Kangaskhan not only has the fearsome Fake Out + Sucker Punch combination but can strategically be used to waste Ludicolo's remaining turns of rain.

**Shedinja**: Shedinja is immune to all of rain sweeper Ludicolo's attacks. Using Protect, it can even scout for Knock Off from Assault Vest variants of Ludicolo on non-rain teams.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454], [5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tuthur1, 369076], [S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [Jett, 226429]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

 

[Tuthur]

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Raining
[SET]
name: Special Tank
move 1: Hydro Pump Scald
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Knock Off
item: Assault Vest
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Modest
evs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ludicolo is a decent special tank thanks its wide coverage, offensive movepool, and unique set of resistances. Scald dishes burns, while Giga Drain improves Ludicolo's longevity and synergizes with Assault Vest. Ice Beam targets Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Ludicolo's STAB moves Altaria, Exeggutor, and Ivysaur. Knock Off cripples hazard removers like Articuno and Cryogonal, as well as walls like Clefairy and Alcremie. Assault Vest allows Ludicolo to check special attackers like Rotom, Jynx, and Poliwrath.

Ludicolo appreciates walls like Palossand, Cofagrigus and Tangela switching into physical attackers like Sawk, Lycanroc-N, and Gourgeist-Small i do believe palo is a terrible teammate for reasons mention at the end of the para; in return, they appreciate it blanket checking the aforementioned special attackers. Ludicolo can also provide early-game utility with Knock Off and threaten various walls like Altaria, Stunfisk, and Tangela with its vast coverage, while also checking offensive Stealth Rock users like Rhydon, Piloswine, and Alolan Dugtrio with its typing and bulk. However, it should be wary of their own coverage or Toxic. Other physical attackers like Sawk and Klinklang can take advantage of Ludicolo weakening physical walls to have an easier time cleaning late-game. -> ludi is a special attacker, mention pokemon that appreciate special walls being crippled, also mention Rhydon and Alolan Dugtrio as SR setters that can keep SR up versus knocked off cuno and cryo, which is huge for these special attackers

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Both sets can use Scald or Leaf Storm or Energy Ball to replace one of its Grass STAB moves, respectively; however, Ludicolo does not appreciate Scald’s lower power or Leaf Storm’s Special Attack drops and Energy Ball's lack of passive recovery.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Specially Defensive Pokemon**: Some Pokemon such as Articuno and Type: Null can stomach a rain-boosted Hydro Pump and fire back with a super effective move like Freeze-Dry or U-turn, although neither appreciate losing its held item.

**Super Effective Attacks**: Ludicolo's subpar defenses and base Speed leave it exposed to super effective attacks from foes such as Accelgor, Silvally-Flying, and Skuntank when rain is not active. Setting up Rain Dance is difficult against walls with super effective coverage like Altaria and Tangela, with Life Orb recoil being a huge factor as well.

**Priority Moves**: Priority move users such as Thwackey, Flapple, and Gurdurr can revenge kill a weakened Ludicolo, with the former two forcing Ludicolo to use Ice Beam—and take Life Orb recoil without Giga Drain healing—if they do not cleanly take it out. Kangaskhan not only has the fearsome Fake Out + Sucker Punch combination but can strategically be used to waste Ludicolo's remaining turns of rain.

**Shedinja**: Shedinja is immune to all of rain sweeper Ludicolo's attacks. Using Protect, it can even scout for Knock Off from Assault Vest variants of Ludicolo on non-rain teams.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454], [5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tuthur, 369076], [S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [Jett, 226429]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Adeleine, 517429]]

QC 2/2

 

[5Dots]

Implemented
GP Team

 

[Adeleine]

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[SET]
name: Special Tank
move 1: Scald
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Knock Off
item: Assault Vest
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Modest
evs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ludicolo is a decent special tank thanks its wide coverage, offensive movepool, and unique set of resistances. Scald dishes out burns, while Giga Drain improves Ludicolo's longevity and synergizes and Giga Drain both synergize with Assault Vest: Scald dishes out burns, helping Ludicolo take both special and physical attacks, while Giga Drain provides longevity despite Ludicolo's inability to use status moves. (I imagine this makes sense?) Ice Beam targets Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Ludicolo's STAB moves like Altaria, Exeggutor, and Ivysaur. Knock Off cripples entry hazard removers like Articuno and Cryogonal, as well as walls like Clefairy and Alcremie. Crippling walls, alongside checking offensive Stealth Rock users like Rhydon, Piloswine, and Alolan Dugtrio with its typing and bulk, lets Ludicolo provide some early-game utility. Assault Vest allows Ludicolo to check special attackers like Rotom, Jynx, and Poliwrath.

Ludicolo appreciates walls like Cofagrigus and Tangela switching into physical attackers like Sawk, Lycanroc-N, and Gourgeist-Small; in return, they appreciate it blanket checking the aforementioned special attackers. Ludicolo can also provide early-game utility with Knock Off against special walls like Alcremie, Stunfisk, and Clefairy, while also checking offensive Stealth Rock users like Rhydon, Piloswine, and Alolan Dugtrio with its typing and bulk. (moved to first paragraph and slightly changed) Once Ludicolo has crippled Defog and Rapid Spin users like Articuno and Cryogonal with Knock Off, partners like Rhydon and Alolan Dugtrio can more easily keep Stealth Rock up. This would allow special attackers like Skuntank and Rotom an easier time to break through. Other physical This helps all sorts of offensive partners wallbreak and sweep. Notably, physical (I'm not sure how stealth rock would specifically help special attackers. if you want to keep things i removed, clarify a bit how these specifically pair well with ludicolo) attackers like Sawk and Klinklang can take advantage of Ludicolo walls special walls that wall Ludicolo, using the momentum and therefore free damage to have (I imagine something like this makes sense? change if i misunderstand anything) an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Both sets can use Leaf Storm or Energy Ball to replace its Grass STAB moves, respectively; Giga Drain; however, Ludicolo does not appreciate Leaf Storm’s Special Attack drops and Energy Ball's lack of passive recovery, the latter either worsening Life Orb recoil or limiting Ludicolo's longevity as a tank. (I imagine?)

Checks and Counters
===================

**Specially Defensive Pokemon**: Some Pokemon such as Articuno and Type: Null can stomach a rain-boosted Hydro Pump and fire back with a super effective move like Freeze-Dry or U-turn, although neither appreciate appreciates losing its held item to Assault Vest Ludicolo.

**Super Effective Attacks**: Sweeper Ludicolo's subpar defenses and base Speed leave it exposed to super effective attacks from foes such as Accelgor, Silvally-Flying, and Skuntank when rain is not active. Setting up Rain Dance is difficult against walls with super effective coverage like Altaria and Tangela, with Life Orb recoil being a huge factor as well. Assault Vest Ludicolo has good Special Defense but similarly subpar Defense. (I imagine this is a notable weakness despite the HP EVs? if not, though, you can remove or change this)

**Priority Moves**: Priority move users such as Thwackey, Flapple, and Gurdurr can revenge kill a weakened Ludicolo, with the former two forcing Ludicolo to use Ice Beam—and take Life Orb recoil without Giga Drain healing if they do healing, if applicable—should they not cleanly take it out. Kangaskhan not only has the fearsome Fake Out + Sucker Punch combination, (AC) but can strategically be used it can strategically use Fake Out to waste Ludicolo's remaining turns of rain.

**Shedinja**: Shedinja is immune to all of rain sweeper Ludicolo's attacks. Using Protect, it can even scout for Knock Off from Assault Vest variants of Ludicolo on non-rain teams.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454], [5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tuthur, 369076], [S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [Jett, 226429]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Adeleine, 517429]]

GP Team done

 

[5Dots]

I changed the set comments for the first paragraph to have Scald affect only physical attacks (since burns don't affect special attacks), and had Giga Drain have extra longevity (Ludicolo using status moves doesn't impact its survivability).

Implemented pretty much all the things for the second body paragraph and Other Options.

This should be good for upload, thanks for the check!

 

[Tuthur]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/ss/pokemon/ludicolo/zu/