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Hello! This thread is here to archive teams across all seven old Overused generations and showcase popular playstyles and archetypes of the current metagames. Its aim is to help beginners and intermediate level players to get acclimated to the tiers, or simply to help anyone in need of a solid team to play.

The teams here are added, replaced and updated by knowledgeable hosts who are directly in touch with top players to keep them up to date with the current metagame. Thus, submissions are closed unlike in current generation tiers.

About credits : It is pretty hard to give proper credits in the oldest generations because of lot of archetypes were created ages ago by long forgotten players and several variants of those have been used by everyone since. "Submitted by" means this is a recent take of a generic playstyle adapted to the current metagame.

Note: The samples are also available on the main site now (here). This thread will continue to provide an venue in which people can voice concerns or ask questions. I will also continue to maintain this thread's OU sample sets (lower tier's are now linked to the main site), keeping them synchronized with the site's set.
 
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RBY OverUsed

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thank you to Melanie uwu for helping me gather teams and to Aliss, Nails and SMB for looking things over

Exeggutor Teams

:starmie: :exeggutor: :alakazam: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Exeggutor / Alakazam
:starmie: :exeggutor: :zapdos: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Exeggutor / Zapdos
:starmie: :exeggutor: :rhydon: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Exeggutor / Rhydon
:starmie: :Exeggutor: :gengar: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Exeggutor / Gengar
:alakazam: :exeggutor: :zapdos: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Alakazam / Exeggutor / Zapdos
:alakazam: :exeggutor: :slowbro: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Alakazam / Exeggutor / Slowbro
:alakazam: :exeggutor: :lapras: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Alakazam / Exeggutor / Lapras

Sing Chansey Teams

:starmie: :cloyster: :jolteon: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Cloyster / Jolteon
:starmie: :cloyster: :alakazam: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Cloyster / Alakazam
:starmie: :rhydon: :slowbro: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Starmie / Rhydon / Slowbro
:gengar: :starmie: :alakazam: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Gengar / Starmie / Alakazam
:gengar: :zapdos: :articuno: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Gengar / Zapdos / Articuno

Jynx Teams

:jynx: :starmie: :alakazam: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Jynx / Starmie / Alakazam
:jynx: :starmie: :jolteon: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Jynx / Starmie / Jolteon
:jynx: :starmie: :rhydon: :chansey: :snorlax: :tauros:
Jynx / Starmie / Rhydon
 
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GSC OverUsed

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4 Attacks Lax + late game Machamp Boom Offense


Vaporeon Boom Offense


Nidoking + Machamp Offense submitted by Lavos.


Rest Marowak + Belly Drum Snorlax + Heal Bell Support


Misdreavus Stall


ParaWak + Lovely Kiss Snorlax + Spin Cloyster Offense by BKC (updated and submitted by Earthworm)


3 Attacks Egg + Nidoking Offense


Jynx Boom Offense submitted by Lavos.


Double Elec + UmbreonSkarm + Belly Drum Snorlax


Curse Heracross Boom Offense


Starmie + Forretress Stall


Double DogBoom Stall by ABR and BKC


Jynx + Machamp Offense


Jynx + Gengar Offense


Blissey + Snorlax Stall by M Dragon


Nidoking + Gengar Offense submitted by M Dragon
 
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ADV OverUsed

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:Skarmory::Jolteon::Tyranitar::Gengar::Metagross::Starmie:
Jolteon Starm Spike Stack by Kerts

:tyranitar::celebi::Magneton::swampert::metagross::aerodactyl:
SD Pass by z0mOG

:suicune::dugtrio::jirachi::celebi::Porygon2::raikou:
CM Spam by dekzeh


Mixed Offense submitted by thelinearcurve


Starmie TSS submitted by UD


Double Status Zapdos + Dugtrio + CM Celebi Balance submitted by Astamatitos

:suicune::snorlax::magneton::salamence::Metagross::Heracross:
Blue Offense by Noitu

:Tyranitar::Milotic::Blissey::Skarmory::Claydol::dugtrio:
Milotic Claydol TSS by Zokuru


MagDol + Double Set-up submitted by CZ.

:tyranitar::skarmory::moltres::jirachi::gengar::flygon:
Molt Superman by Golden Sun


SkarmMag + Aerodactyl TSS submitted by BKC (updated by Astamatitos)


Forretress TSS submitted by M Dragon


Moltres TSS submitted by eden
 
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DPP OverUsed

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Lead Azelf + LoomTar Hyper Offense by Jimmy Turtwig


Lead Empoleon + TR Bronzong + DD Nite Offense by crayon pop


Toxic Spikes + SubTect Tran Balance by BKC


Breloom + CroCune Spikes Stack by SFG


Metagross + Swords Dance Scizor Offense by Vay


Skarmory + Lucario Offense by DeepBlueC and Excal


Hippowdon + Clefable Stall by BKC


Lead Gliscor + Specs Kingdra + Gengar Offense by Seven Thunders


ScarfTar + Suicune Stall by shockproof


Gyarados + Lucario Bulky Offense by Sakito


Skarmory Lead Offense by Pkel SweeTforU


AgiliGross + Fire Water Grass Balance by Excal


Zapdos + Latias Balance by Jimmy Turtwig


Torment Heatran Stall by DeepBlueC
 
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BW OverUsed

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Sand Teams

:tyranitar::Keldeo::Heatran::Amoonguss::Landorus-Therian::Excadrill:
Sand Nō 1 Toxic Protect Keldeo by BKC

:tyranitar::Latios::Rotom-Wash::Ferrothorn::Landorus-Therian::Garchomp:
Sand Nō 2 Lando-T Offense by Finchinator

:tyranitar::Terrakion::Excadrill::Landorus-Therian::Amoonguss::Rotom-wash:
Sand Nō 3 Rock Gem Terrak by Finchinator

:Tyranitar::Latios::Landorus-therian::Ferrothorn::Alakazam::Excadrill:
Sand Nō 4 Alakazam Offense

:Tyranitar::Latios::Landorus-therian::Ferrothorn::Rotom-wash::Excadrill:
Sand Nō 5 Scarf Latios Offense by M Dragon edited by ABR and BKC

:Tyranitar::Latios::Landorus-therian::Ferrothorn::Alakazam::Reuniclus:
Sand Nō 6 Triple Psychic By Finchinator

:Tyranitar::Latios::Landorus-therian::Skarmory::Breloom::Rotom-wash:
Sand Nō 7 Facade Loom + Skarmory by Caetano93

Rain Teams


:politoed::Tentacruel::Ferrothorn::Keldeo::thundurus-therian::latios:
Rain Nō 1 Specs Keldeo Offense by Teclis

:politoed::Tentacruel::Ferrothorn::Keldeo::thundurus-therian::Dragonite:
Rain Nō 2 Substitute DD Dragonite by Caetano93

:politoed::Tentacruel::Ferrothorn::Latios::tornadus::Garchomp:
Rain Nō 3 Tornadus + Substitute Garchomp by Caetano93

:politoed::Tentacruel::Ferrothorn::Keldeo::thundurus-therian::Celebi:
Rain Nō 4 Nasty Plot Celebi Pass by Rubyblood


Weatherless Teams

:Jirachi::Kyurem-black::Magnezone::Dragonite::Garchomp:::Latios:
Weatherless Nō 1 Dragmag BKC edit of Ciele

:excadrill::breloom::Jirachi::Rotom-wash::Latios::Landorus-therian:
W-Less Nō 2 Sub Punch Loom by Finchinator

:Garchomp::Latios::Dragonite::starmie::jirachi::magnezone:
Weatherless Less Nō 3 Specs Starmie D-Mag by Zf


:Skarmory::Gastrodon::Reuniclus::Tyranitar::Latias::Heatran:
Reuniclus Sand Balance by Leftiez

:tyranitar::Mienshao::Gliscor::Skarmory::Amoonguss::Alakazam:
Scarf Mienshao by Soulwind

:Alakazam::Garchomp::Ferrothorn::Landorus-therian::jellicent::Tyranitar:
Alakazam and Choice Band Garchomp by Jirachee

:Scizor::Magnezone::landorus-therian::starmie::Dragonite::Garchomp:
Weatherless Nō 2 Magnezone Offense by Jirachee

:Politoed::Gliscor::ferrothorn::Tentacruel::jirachi::keldeo:
Rain Nō 1 Sub Gliscor Balance by ABR

:Tyranitar::reuniclus::Skarmory::garchomp::Jellicent::heatran:
Sand Nō 6 CB Garchomp Semistall by Jirachee

:Tyranitar::breloom::Latios::Skarmory::reuniclus::gastrodon:
Sand Nō 7 CM reun + Gastro by FNH

:tyranitar::Gliscor::ferrothorn::rotom-wash::latios::alakazam:
Sand Nō 5 SD Gliscor by FNH

:politoed::Keldeo::Tentacruel::Ferrothorn::Landorus-therian::thundurus-therian:
Rain Nō 3 Sub Thundurus Balance
 
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ORAS OverUsed
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Volcarona Spikes by KratosMana


Mega Metagross + Magnezone Bulky Offense by ABR


Mega Charizard Y Sand by xray

:tyranitar-mega::gliscor::rotom-wash::excadrill::tornadus-therian::keldeo:
Mega Tyranitar Sand by CrashinBoomBang, Trosko, and xray

:shuckle::scizor-mega::azumarill::hoopa::thundurus::bisharp:
Sticky Webs Offense by SoulWind

:quagsire::altaria-mega::magnezone::suicune::zapdos::chansey:
Mega Altaria Stall by Trosko

:azumarill::metagross-mega::latias::garchomp::bisharp::thundurus:
Bisharp Azumarill Thundurus Offense by xray

:clefable::latios::amoonguss::magnezone::gliscor::slowbro-mega:
Mega Slowbro Bulky Offense by ABR

:clefable::crawdaunt::metagross-mega::garchomp::rotom-wash::tornadus-therian:
Crawdaunt Bulky Offense by ABR / starry blanket


Mega Slowbro + KeldTar Spikes by innisfree


Mega Metagross Spikes by ABR


Mega Alakazam Spikes by ABR


Mega Venusaur Semi-Stall by ABR

:rotom-wash::hydreigon::clefable::garchomp::tornadus-therian::metagross-mega:
Hydreigon Bulky Offense by BKC
 
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:Clefable::Ferrothorn::heatran::Landorus-Therian::Latias-Mega::Rotom-Wash:
Life Orb Clefable and Electrium Z Rotom-Wash by Tricking

:Hawlucha::Medicham-Mega::Kyurem-Black::Magearna::Tapu Koko::Landorus-Therian:
Hawlucha Hyper Offense by Xtra

:Kartana::Charizard-Mega-Y::Tapu Fini::Heatran::Landorus-Therian::Weavile:
Mega Charizard-Y Sun Offense By ABR

:skarmory::Lopunny-Mega::Reuniclus::Chansey::Gliscor::Toxapex:
Lopunny-Mega Balance by Empo

:Medicham-Mega::Tornadus-Therian::Landorus-Therian::Greninja-Ash::Rotom-Wash::Magearna:
Medicham-Mega and Scarf Rotom by Finchinator

:Kartana::Alakazam::Tapu Lele::Magearna::Landorus-Therian::Rotom-Wash:
Psychic Spam by SM Community

:Scizor-mega::Kartana::Ditto::reuniclus::Chansey::Gliscor:
Ditto Semi-Stall by Punny

:Serperior::Tapu Fini::Scizor-Mega::Heatran::Landorus-Therian::Kyurem-Black:
Serperior and Scizor-Mega offence by False

:Gliscor::Lopunny-Mega::Magearna::Tangrowth::Tornadus-Therian::Toxapex:
Regenerator and Toxic Spam Balance by Finchinator

:Swampert-Mega::Tornadus-therian::Greninja-Ash::Ferrothorn::Manaphy::Pelipper:
Swampert-Mega Rain by Mob Barley

:toxapex::Celesteela::Greninja-Ash::Garchomp::Tapu Bulu::Tornadus-Therian:
Ash Greninja Balance by Finchinator

:Mawile-Mega::Rotom-Wash::Heatran::Landorus-Therian::Tapu Bulu::Kartana:
Dual Grass Offense by TDK

:Lopunny-Mega::Gastrodon::Heatran::Tornadus-Therian::Clefable::Celesteela:
Lopunny-Mega Balance by ABR

:Tyranitar::Mawile-Mega::Landorus-Therian::Heatran::Tornadus-Therian::Amoonguss:
SD Mega-Mawile Bulky Offense by Ske

:Pelipper::Swampert-Mega::Ferrothorn::Greninja-Ash::Magearna::Tornadus-Therian:
Rain by ABR & BKC

:Aggron-Mega::Chansey::Clefable::Alomomola::Mew::Zapdos:
Mega-Aggron Stall by Finchinator
 
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:Mewtwo:RBY Other Tiers :Mew:


:Lugia: GSC Other Tiers :Ho-OH:


:Groudon: ADV Other Tiers :Kyogre:


:Palkia: DPP Other Tiers :Dialga:


:Reshiram: BW Other Tiers :Zekrom:


:Xerneas: ORAS Other Tiers :Yveltal:


:Solgaleo: SM Other Tiers :Lunala:

 
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Could you guys consider giving short writeups on all or some of the teams here? Some people aren't 100% familiar with every ruins of alph generation and while firsthand experience is a great way to learn, just taking a sample team and diving in with no other real aid whatsoever can likely lead to development of bad habits or incorrect inferences about the metagame.

I know its asking for a lot, considering you guys work hard to update the teams on occasion, but it would be pretty helpful in the long run for players trying to get into older tiers or even players temporarily picking up generations they don't usually play to serve as a substitute, or brush up a weak area for their team. Obviously every writeup doesn't have to be nearly as detailed as an RMT, just a little something to give people a little push.
 

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List of Updates
A summary of changes made for both the PS Rfaq samples and forums samples, detailing when samples sets have been updated.
Thank you to everyone who donates their time and teams to help improve the overall quality of the samples provided.



July 2020

:toxapex:SM OU: The SM OU samples were added in a forums post, and both the forums and Rfaq samples are being overhauled and updated with new teams. Thank you to Curiosity for helping with this project.

:Metagross-mega:ORAS OU: RFAQ Teams were synchronized to the forums samples. The PS RFAQ recieved new teams and the outdated teams were removed. Huge thanks to Starry Blanket for keeping the ORAS forums samples up to date.

:Genesect:BW Ubers: The samples paste was expanded and organized. Thanks once again to DNNP for organizing, and Cateano93 for helping expand the teams.

:Keldeo:BW OU: samples were redone with several teams removed and more added. Both the Rfaq and forums are up to date with possiblity of more teams being added in the future. Huge thanks to Finchinator for helping remove old teams and expand the samples size.

:Palkia:DPP Ubers: Samples were reviewed and organized with waste and duplicate teams removed. No new teams were added (there was already an overwhelming amount of teams). Thank you to DNNP for organizing the samples paste and clearing out duplicates and other such waste. Future review of the samples will be conducted.

:Clefable:DPP OU: The teams in the Rfaqs on PS were removed at the advice of Excal and replaced with sample teams on the forums. Thank you DNNP for organizing the paste and Excal for keeping the forums samples up to date.

:Tyranitar:ADV OU: Rfaq Samples were reviewed and synchronized to the forum's samples set (Thank you to Teclis for continuing to maintain the forums samples). Teams in the forum's samples were added to the Rfaq samples. Several teams from the Rfaq samples were also removed. Thank you to Vapicuno for reviewing both samples sets and recommending the changes to the PS sample set.

:Koffing:Other Tiers: A post was made with links to the Rfaq's pastebin depositories (accessable also in the RoA room on PS) for the sample teams for the all the other tiers and gens that were not already listed. As of now most lower tier samples are up to date, but further review and work will be done in the future.

August 2020

:Milotic: BW UU: Samples were reviewed, with teams that no longer respresented the current meta game removed. Sample size was expanded. Huge thanks to r0ady for reviewing this sample set.

:Aerodactyl-Mega: ORAS UU: Like the BW UU samples, ORAS UU was reviewed and expanded to a now adequate sample size. Huge thanks to r0ady for reviewing this sample set.

:Xatu: GSC NU: Samples were expanded and updated by Earthworm

:walrein: ADV UU: Samples were updated and expanded.

:Genesect:BW Ubers: Further edits were made with teams that did not represent the metagame or contained inherent problems removed. The size of the samples was reduced making the depository more managable while not rescricting variety. Thank you to steelskitty and Lasen for helping with this project.

:Lugia:GSC Ubers: Samples recieved further addition more teams, expanding the sample size. Thank you to Lasen for helping expand the samples.

Spetember 2020

:Moltres: RBY NU: Samples were overhauled, with outdated teams removed. New teams were added as well increasing the samples size. Thank you to Shellnuts for overhauling the samples.

:Blaziken-mega: ORAS Ubers: The Samples were reviewed with old teams removed and new teams added to the list. Thank you to Lasen and Staxi for helping redo these samples.

:Mienfoo: BW LC: After a long time searching, we finally have a viable and up to date sample set. Huge thanks to iss for helping out here!

October 2020

:seadra: GSC PU: With the launch of GSC PU, a sample set for the tier was added. Thanks to Akir for doing this!

:Honedge: ORAS LC: ORAS Little Cup samples have been expanded all thanks to Joltage!

:Purugly: DPP Monotype: DPP monotype sample's paste was added here, and to the Rfaq in the RoA on PS. The teams are from the MonoType community and can be found here.

:unown: Thanks to Kris, the samples have been moved from raw pastes to clean looking pages on the site, making it easier to peruse the teams and import to PS!

:Tyranitar:ADV OU: The greater ADV community conducted a complete review of the ADV OU sample set, removing several teams and adding quite a few more to better represent the current metagame. Thank you once again to vapicuno and to all those who contributed to this project.

:Keldeo:BW OU: The greater BW community reviewed the samples to bring them up to date, current with the meta. Teams that were bad or out of date were removed (basically all of my teams got deleted LOL) with new teams added. HUGE thanks to Doctor Caetano93 BKC and Finchinator

November 2020

:Duskull: DPP LC: Samples have been reviewed with old teams removed and new teams added. Thank you to kjdaas and Imanalt for contributing and redoing the sample set.

:seadra: GSC PU: A post tournament update was done with none of the previous teams surviving ReeceHughes purge. Thank you to Siatam Earthworm and ReeceHughes for redoing the samples!

:Darkrai: DPP Ubers: We finally got around to deleting the massive garbage pile that was previously known as our DPP Ubers samples. Thanks to Highlord Staxi BKC Tomahawk Lasen for helping out with this. (Highlord did most of the work LOL)

May 2021
:Toxapex: SM OU: The SM samples have finally been updated. Only took me about a year of postponing doing it for z0mOG and Finchinator to get it done in 30 minutes. Bravo and much thanks for doing this!

:Deoxys-attack: ADV Ubers: After a solid year of ignoring Lasen's constant complaining about the ADV Ubers samples, I finally let him and SuperEpicAmpharos delete the entire outdated set and add 11 fresh new teams. Thank you!

:Lunala: SM Ubers: A small review was done with one team removed and one team added. Thank you to Lasen for your persistent nagging about our samples and Zesty43 for helping review the set.

:Swampert-Mega: ORAS UU: Pak removed the now invalid teams (bye bye Conk) and added a few place holder teams to ensure the whole sample set is valid. A more complete review and update will come in the future!

:Samurott: BW NU: The BW NU samples were expanded; no teams removed.

:Golurk: BW RU: Completely removed the existing sample set (0 teams were viable) and replaced it with the RU communities BW RU sample teams. I will look to expend the sample set in the future.

:Barbaracle: ORAS RU: Did the same as BW RU samples. Completely removed the existing sample set (0 teams were viable) and replaced it with the RU communities ORAS RU sample teams. They had an adequate number of teams, no need to add more at the moment.

:Golisopod: SM RU: Did the same as BW RU and ORAS samples. Completely removed the existing sample set (0 teams were viable) and replaced it with the RU communities SM RU sample teams. Thank you to MrAldo for maintianing the RU samples.

:Magmortar: DPP NU: Removed the previous and very outdated set, and replaced the set with teams from the NU communities well maintained sample set.

:Malamar: ORAS NU: Removed the previous and very outdated set, and replaced the set with teams from the NU communities well maintained sample set.

:Quagsire:DPP PU: Akir updated the samples (I don't know the exacts tho).

:Beheeyem: BW PU: same as above.
 
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WinstonRed

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A quick note about the Gen7 Ubers sample teams: The Mewtwo-Y + Darkceus BO by Bigtalk is listed twice over his other team (DD Mence + Ferro Spikes), both the pastes and team previews are taken from the first team

Great ressource apart from that small thing though :)
 

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A quick note about the Gen7 Ubers sample teams: The Mewtwo-Y + Darkceus BO by Bigtalk is listed twice over his other team (DD Mence + Ferro Spikes), both the pastes and team previews are taken from the first team

Great ressource apart from that small thing though :)
Thank you for pointing that out, feedback like this only serves to make the samples a better resource! I'll get it removed as soon as I can. As a side note the SM Ubers Samples are set to be reviewed in the near future as well. Once again thank you for letting us know!
 

WinstonRed

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Thank you for pointing that out, feedback like this only serves to make the samples a better resource! I'll get it removed as soon as I can. As a side note the SM Ubers Samples are set to be reviewed in the near future as well. Once again thank you for letting us know!
my pleasure :) thanks for the work you do here, I love using those samples to toy around in tiers other than OU, which I normally would have to start learning the meta etc. from scratch first :P
 

WinstonRed

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Another addition to the sample teams, hope you don't mind the doublepost: If there are any plans to revisit the Gen7 OU samples soonTM, I think you should include Hawlucha/Kyurem-Black/Landorus-Therian/Magearna/Medicham-Mega/Tapu Koko. While not everyone is using Xtra's original version from OLT6 (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/olt-vi-discussion-thread.3652748/post-8214728), the team, together with the various versions of Rain, is still EVERYWHERE on the ladder, no matter if you're at 1k or 1,9k, and those two make up for a big portion of the current Gen7 OU meta. I'm not exactly sure which version is the most popular one right now (some run Scarf or Sash Lando, some run Z-move on Mage and LO Kube, etc.), but one of them should definitely be included with how defining and overpowered strong it is

Edit: I know this sounds like random balance whining, but I'm serious with suggesting it as a sample team, it's obviously a very good team and represents the strength of Electric Terrain supporting almost the entire team and letting it break through conventional checks. Good representation of the archetype, and popular enough not be considered :)
 
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BW teams look good but could maybe use a little more variation in sand builds. Obviously bulky offense style with Ferrothorn + Lando-T + Latios is really prevalent and effective and enables a bunch of different stuff in the 5th and 6th slots, but I think it would be nice to see at least 1 Gliscor / Gastro-style balance added in here after increasing amounts of tournament representation. I can imagine being a new player trying to get into BW and falling under the impression that bulky offense is the only way to go about using sand.

:tyranitar:
:skarmory:
:gastrodon:
:reuniclus:
:alakazam:
:Gliscor:
https://pokepast.es/b2216f0ba0f3cc88
The obvious addition would be some variant of the BKC / ABR build from last year, with Skarm + Gastro, double Magic Guard and utility Gliscor to create a really solid core that is very difficult to whittle down with passive damage (nothing hit by sand, combined with scald immunity + 3 broad status absorbers), building to an endgame with one of the psychics. Multiple different Reuniclus / Alakazam sets work here.

:tyranitar:
:excadrill:
:gastrodon:
:magnezone:
:latios:
:gliscor:
https://pokepast.es/b09d3d7722facf6f
Secondary option could be the increasingly common sand balances that use Magnezone to remove the few Pokemon that handle Gastrodon or SD Gliscor 1v1. We've seen a lot of these in the last couple of weeks of SPL, an ongoing trend from the tail-end of last year. The core of Tyranitar / Excadrill / Gastrodon / Magnezone / Gliscor is pretty set in stone, though the secondary water resist can vary with things like Amoonguss and Celebi working well. Variations with Scarf Latios like shown here are definitely less solid defensively, though make up for it by having a safety net against threats like Alakazam, Keldeo, Garchomp, Thundurus-T and general DragMag which is valuable for a new player. (Helmet Zone is weird but the item slot is pretty open thanks to Scarf Latios, and it helps patch-up the lack of switch-in to physical dragons and combats general U-turn spam; Air Balloon + MRise, or Chople + TWave definitely can fit instead)
 
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BW teams look good but could maybe use a little more variation in sand builds. Obviously bulky offense style with Ferrothorn + Lando-T + Latios is really prevalent and effective and enables a bunch of different stuff in the 5th and 6th slots, but I think it would be nice to see at least 1 Gliscor / Gastro-style balance added in here after increasing amounts of tournament representation. I can imagine being a new player trying to get into BW and falling under the impression that bulky offense is the only way to go about using sand.
The plan is to update the samples after the SPL is over, since this is the time to watch the metagame development. However I concour that we need a Gastro Balance in the samples after the sheer amount of wins it farmed in 3 SPL weeks.
 
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