approved by Birkal
Jumbao's playtest is the largest tournament that has ever in been hosted in CAP. This is excellent...right? Well unfortunately even with ~100 players sign up we only had 6 matches played in the first round with the rest of the matches decided by activity, coin flips and byes. This is not only unfair for the players who have to play and reveal teams but it also looks very bad and is certainly not what I have in mind when I think about celebrating the successful creation of another CAP. Pajantom's playtest was similar albeit not as bad but I'm afraid the trend will continue if nothing is changed.
In this thread I'd like to explore different ideas on how to fix this issue or decide whether this is a problem that even warrants change. In the past, playtest tournaments were completely ladder based and while I think going back to this formula isn't a good idea for many reasons, I think having a mix could work well....
My proposal is simply to change the playtest tournament into a ladder tournament with the play-offs played on the forums.
Example: Playtest ladder that goes for X amount of time and the top X move on and play the rest of the matches in standard forum based matches. With this proposal you get the best of both worlds. You eliminate byes and drastically diminish the amount of activity calls made (also if someone pulls out you can put in the next highest ranked person on the ladder) while still crowning the champion in the fairer standard tournament format. You also allow the meta to grow a lot more by having a ladder with greater incentive to play which makes for a more enjoyable finals series while also making it less about who has the most time to spare to ladder (much less time and effort required to make top 8/16/32 than first, obviously).
I'd love to hear critiques on this proposal and/or completely new proposals for how to tackle this issue.
Jumbao's playtest is the largest tournament that has ever in been hosted in CAP. This is excellent...right? Well unfortunately even with ~100 players sign up we only had 6 matches played in the first round with the rest of the matches decided by activity, coin flips and byes. This is not only unfair for the players who have to play and reveal teams but it also looks very bad and is certainly not what I have in mind when I think about celebrating the successful creation of another CAP. Pajantom's playtest was similar albeit not as bad but I'm afraid the trend will continue if nothing is changed.
In this thread I'd like to explore different ideas on how to fix this issue or decide whether this is a problem that even warrants change. In the past, playtest tournaments were completely ladder based and while I think going back to this formula isn't a good idea for many reasons, I think having a mix could work well....
My proposal is simply to change the playtest tournament into a ladder tournament with the play-offs played on the forums.
Example: Playtest ladder that goes for X amount of time and the top X move on and play the rest of the matches in standard forum based matches. With this proposal you get the best of both worlds. You eliminate byes and drastically diminish the amount of activity calls made (also if someone pulls out you can put in the next highest ranked person on the ladder) while still crowning the champion in the fairer standard tournament format. You also allow the meta to grow a lot more by having a ladder with greater incentive to play which makes for a more enjoyable finals series while also making it less about who has the most time to spare to ladder (much less time and effort required to make top 8/16/32 than first, obviously).
I'd love to hear critiques on this proposal and/or completely new proposals for how to tackle this issue.