OU ORAS OU Victim of the Week: Week 9 - Thundurus-I | Voting Phase

A dumb yet decent counter against volcarona would be bulky charizard x

Charizard-Mega-X @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 100 HP / 248 Atk / 160 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost

+1 216+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 139-164 (43.1 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO

+1 216+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 181-213 (56.2 - 66.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

248 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Flare Blitz vs. 32 HP / 108 Def Volcarona: 312-367 (97.8 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

Even without any bulk you can take one

+1 216+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 181-213 (60.9 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
CHECK

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Garchomp @ Leftovers
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 108 Def / 132 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Roar/Toxic/Protect/Dragon Tail/Fire Blast
- Rock Tomb

One of my favorite Garchomp sets to use of all time, its an edited variant of BKC's lefties chomp set. This thing takes garchomp's ability to set up rocks and get some crucial longevity it otherwise lacks. This thing should not necessarily be your primary volcarona check, but it acts as an amazing buffer to deny it a set-up opportunity thanks to the likes of rock tomb, calcs will be provided of what this thing can live, anything from a +1 volcarona, zard-y, keldeo and anything else that's just a special nuke. This Chomp can also take a sucker punch from Bisharp and KO it back from Sucker Punch. I actually can't give this thing justice how good it is. Roar also helps deny a cmind from Suicune which is always crucial, or anything else really thinking it has a free set up oppotunity. Chomp best rocker.




+1 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Garchomp: 223-264 (53 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

16 Atk Garchomp Rock Tomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 316-372 (101.6 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Garchomp in Sun: 155-183 (36.9 - 43.5%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

16 Atk Garchomp Rock Tomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 272-320 (91.5 - 107.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 108+ Def Garchomp: 308-364 (73.3 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

16 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bisharp: 272-324 (100.3 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Psychic vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Garchomp: 183-216 (43.5 - 51.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

16 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Alakazam: 256-303 (101.9 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Amir

Banned deucer.
Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Whirlpool
- Perish Song
- Protect
- Rest
this thing completely ignores every common volcarona set given its typing and sap sipper ability
As sonoclover mentioned, this set is illegal in ORAS OU, please submit a set that is legitimate.
 
Victini @ Choice Band
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- U-turn
- Trick

Victini can beat volc 1v1 and can switch into any attack and retaliate with v-create. It is a n excelent check as it can totally prevent volcarona from forcing progress especially if victini can switch in on any attack and force it out. Victini has to be wary of quiver dance from LO variatnts especially if it has to hard switch in but it can manouver itself in correctly against it and it always beats the defensive set 1v1 even if it quiver dances

Defensive calcs:
216+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 211-250 (61.8 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 153-180 (44.8 - 52.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Off calcs:
252 Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 522-615 (158.6 - 186.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 32 HP / 108 Def Volcarona: 448-528 (140.4 - 165.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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ah yes, the ever so relevant problem of checking volcarona

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Recover
- Mirror Coat
- Scald
- Haze

+1 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Milotic: 208-246 (52.7 - 62.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
mirror coat always kills

vs sub buzz can haze and win 1v1
 

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ah yes, the ever so relevant problem of checking volcarona

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Recover
- Mirror Coat
- Scald
- Haze

+1 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Milotic: 208-246 (52.7 - 62.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
mirror coat always kills

vs sub buzz can haze and win 1v1
post the real mirror coat mon you coward
 
ah yes, the ever so relevant problem of checking volcarona

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Recover
- Mirror Coat
- Scald
- Haze

+1 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Milotic: 208-246 (52.7 - 62.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
mirror coat always kills

vs sub buzz can haze and win 1v1
Im a sjneider simp from now
 

Amir

Banned deucer.
Wow we had a lot of entrances for Volcarona, thank you for submitting.


Voting Phase
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check - based m-aero

counter - air balloon tran, boy has a lot of merits, and it hits hella hard to boot.
 

Amir

Banned deucer.
Congrats to HydreigonTheChild & Superhuy for winning the checks this week and CursedStar for winning the counters! Your submissions will be added to the Hall of Fame!
Onto week 9 of ORAS OU Victim of the week with our next submission: Thundurus-Incarnate

Submissions Phase



Thundurus (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Hidden Power: Ice
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Focus Blast


With April fools around the corner, the prankster of the ORAS OU tier is here. Meet Thundurus-I, a nasty setup sweeper capable of single-handedly cleaning up teams. Thanks to its niche 111 base speed, and amazing coverage, revenge killing this Pokémon is easier said than done.

Let's see what kind of checks and counters you guys can come up with this time! Good luck and have fun! ^^

Deadline: 1st of April
 
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Weavile @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Icicle Crash
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard

Weavile is a good check as it can switch into any attack barring focus blast once and threaten to pursuit trap it and it kills after rocks, crash which kills instantly and knock also kills it without missing and is able to threaten other teammates

252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 528-624 (176.5 - 208.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 301-355 (100.6 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile switching boosted Pursuit (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 247-292 (82.6 - 97.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Thundurus Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Weavile: 165-195 (58.7 - 69.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
 
Diancie-Mega
Level: 100
Naive Nature
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 8 Atk / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Moonblast
- Diamond Storm
- Hidden Power Fire
- Protect


Even in the worst case, you get to protect and mega on a turn it would attack, basically forcing it out. Unboosted mega still tanks T-Bolt face on. It also is annoying to switch into, given itshigh damage output and good speed with strong coverage.


252 SpA Thundurus Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Diancie-Mega: 147-174 (60.9 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
8 Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 438-516 (146.4 - 172.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Not to mention that after minor chip you can also just click Moon and it goes down.

248 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus: 217-256 (72.5 - 85.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Mega Diancie is a strong Check to it, by being faster and hitting it and everything wanting to switch into it hard.
 
Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Earthquake
- Toxic

252 SpA Thundurus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 16 SpD Quagsire: 176-208 (44.6 - 52.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Dodge focus blast, goofy.
 

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Raikou @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Hidden Power: Ice
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute

check
 
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Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch

We have the chess piece pokemon, there isn't a lot that really answers thundurus-i defensively, your best bet is unironically hippowdon or some spdef variant of ttar(which is a waste of a tar imo at least) or m-venu, all of them having their own issues when taking the beast on. So I did a bit of thinking and thought about the team structures of thundurus which was almost exclusively webs, and no other poke abuses webs as much as bisharp. The only slightly annoying thing is trying to fit pursuit, I'm sure you could easily do that, and bisharp very easily threatens a KO after rocks which isn't too difficult to ask for. Guaranteed KO if you get the +2. Worst case scenario, even if Bisharp fails to grab the kill, you could easily go out into your scarfer and pick it off that way, or your priority user.


252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 243-289 (81.2 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 

Amir

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Sorry for the slight delay, now we have the entries here, let's move onto the voting phase.

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My vote goes to Diancie. Thundurus can certainly run more sets outside of nasty plot, and diancie doesn't necessarily have to mega evolve turn 1 to check it either. You could simply choose not to mega evolve, eat a hit and simply grab the kill with diamond storm.


Reasons for why i didn't vote the others - I'm sorry I had to do you dirty weavile, quagsire is only found on stall, raikou is an unmon
 

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