entrocefalo, NeonJolteonWasUsed, Niadev, and Ropalme1914 are now officially part of the Tiering Council!
Idk what you're giving your giratina but whatever it is I need some for mine toowalls everything but even without a curse and can take care of that.
Meant which i guess isn't really found on stall. But even to get to that and ko normal tina is going to leave you with one TR turn in a best case scenario ( switch to , another turn to get to +2 and then most likely 2 turns to ko since these teams almost never run hazards). This leaves you at 82% and in practise you'll be lower as hazards are likely going to be up and you probably are probably going to get dragon tailed or roared out forcing you to repeat the sequence. It will chip luna enough for to easily finish it off and that will take care of every other mon on the trick room team.Idk what you're giving your giratina but whatever it is I need some for mine too
+2 252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 433-510 (85.9 - 101.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Um how do you counter mega ttar?Now that the "big bads" are banned, I'm sure everyone's wondering the same thing: What's the New Big Bad?
Have no fear, I will illuminate you all!
It is Arceus!
Behold the latest product of Game Freak's buffs!
Arceus @ Leftovers
Ability: Multitype
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 124 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Force / Earthquake
- Taunt
In Gen 9, Arceus gained Taunt and Dragon Dance. Why? I don't know! What I do know is that there is no consistent counterplay to this strategy (outside of using multiple Unaware Pokemon).
Now, shall we ask ourselves, how do we stop such a monster?
The answer: absolutely not. This monster defeats all. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be whirlwinded. It cannot be ditto'd. It cannot be revenge killed by scarfers of any sort. It cannot be killed by priority. It cannot even be stopped by swapping between a Normal Type and a Ghost type!
It sets up in the face of all who attempt to check it. All it needs is one dragon dance to clean with Shadow Force. When you bring in your priority mon, lo and behold: it is now Ghost type and immune to your silly Extreme Speed. When you bring in your Ditto, it will simply Extreme Speed your Ditto. When you attempt to phase it or set up alongside it, in comes Taunt and more Dragon Dances.
If (when) it gets two dragon dances, it can no longer be stopped defensively. All but max defense Necrozma-Dusk-Mane are OHKOed by +2 STAB Shadow Force. Koraidon is ohkoed by the same Shadow Force, and outsped at +2 even if it is running Scarf.
Earthquake trades the power of Shadow Force for more sweeping consistency, hitting everything that resists Extreme Speed at least neutrally (outside of the rare Giratina-O). The Ghost Typing alone is enough to flip the game into Arceus's favor.
Arceus is coming for you. And when you least expect it.... it will Terastalyze into Ghost and run away with the game! Beware!
So yaUm how do you counter mega ttar?
Why are you worried about countering an unviable Mon?Um how do you counter mega ttar?
wait but I'm pretty sure mttar ain't even viable with Calyrex-S gone. The real question is, how do you counter bulky phazers? Pdon and Zygarde (sort of lugia too but that's K.Oed by Shadow Force if you don't have multiscale up) can dragon tail u out. Also, Koraidon heavily pressures both said arceus and mttar. Arceus can Tera Ghost, but what if you use up tera? You're throwing away win conditions with pokemon like Tera Xerneas (who can easily run away with games after tera) and Tera Koraidon, who has no real counter in my eyes (by tera Koraidon flips matchups vs Chien Pao, Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas) this also means you can't revert back to a normal type, so pokemon like Marshadow and Sucker Punch users like Urshifu-S and Kingambit can revenge kill you. Don't forget Yveltal either-both Sucker Punch and Foul Play exist in the movepool of such an excellent support pokemon, threatening Tera Ghost Arceus.Um how do you counter mega ttar?
That was already discussed in private, so I'll be short here, to say a big thank you for your investment as co-leader all this time GuardNow in the correct thread. . .
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-ubers-1-terastallization.3724259/post-9700525
Terastal remains legal in National Dex Ubers!
On a completely unrelated note (I swear. . . ), I am announcing my departure. I will be stepping down from my current role as tier leader and council member. When I initially joined, my intention was to assist in the setup of this tier, but because this metagame's so fun I started taking on more and more responsibilities and ended up leading for over half a year. . . Sadly, I'm just too busy IRL to keep investing time into this
A huge thank you to all the players and the incredible National Dex moderation team, especially R8, Kaede, and Jho, for their invaluable contributions in making this tier a resounding success. Together, we have established a solid foundation that I am confident will continue to thrive under Eledyr's capable leadership for the rest of this generation.
what the everloving shit is that zygarde set for??? also i think double edge over return isnt a good play on mence
This zygarde set spreads paralysis and check setup sweeperwhat the everloving shit is that zygarde set for??? also i think double edge over return isnt a good play on mence
Double edge is fine, on that particular set you probably prefer frustration for the longevity but double edge doing things like always ohking geo xerneas compared to returns roll or killing psdef pdon after rocks 50% of the time compared to never is nice. As for their zygod it's exactly what it looks like. A defensive phazer with tera fairy providing a decent check to alot of random stuff with it's sheer bulk and tera fairy letting check nearly every physical attacker. The real question isn't what does it do it's why is it here and for that I don't have much of an answer. Considering the mons here it's probably here for necro and as secondary for misc physical attackers (duh).what the everloving shit is that zygarde set for??? also i think double edge over return isnt a good play on mence