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[astroshagger]

I'm going to use arbitrary code execution to get Mew in emerald. Where can I find all possible IV spreads? Are there any 31/31/31/31/31/31?

 

[Noah3475]

Hello, wonderful users of Smogon forums!

I am trying to RNG a Starter Chimchar in Pokemon Diamond, specifically:
Relaxed Nature, 27/31/31/03/31/31 IVs, Male Gender.
My target Seed is 26030754, at Frame 1.
The delay of my target seed is 1854.
I am unable to verify my seed. I am RNGing a starter Pokemon, so I do not have the necessary tools to verify my seed at this point.

I tried and failed multiple times. Most recently, I got:
Hardy Nature, 16, 21, 26, 31(HP)/4-23/12-31/4-23/12-31/0-17 IVs, Female Gender.

I am trying to follow along with the guide provided by Smogon, but I have several questions:
I am attempting this on a New Nintendo 3DS. Does this matter?
The guide says to "restart your DS" at one point. Do I need to turn off my system and turn it back on, or is going back to the Home Menu sufficient?
When I enter the Seed 26030754 in Seed to Time, scores of options appear when I click "Generate". Are any Date / Time / Delay options superior to others? I am currently using:
Date 2022 / 01 / 01, Time 03 / 22 / 15, Delay 1854.
How exact does my timing need to be (closing the Current Time page, starting the game) when I am using Eon Timer? 1 Second? 0.1 Seconds?
I rapidly press A and Start so that I can make it to the Load screen before the Eon Timer finishes; does pressing A and Start before the File Load screen appears do anything regarding the frame?

 

[shiny finder]

I am attempting this on a New Nintendo 3DS. Does this matter?

No, but see next comment

The guide says to "restart your DS" at one point. Do I need to turn off my system and turn it back on, or is going back to the Home Menu sufficient?

While going back to the home menu is sufficient, I'd recommend modifying the procedure slightly. Rather than booting the game at the end of the first timer, I'd suggest syncing your clock and EonTimer start times (like normal) then immediately boot the game while the first time is counting down. This will make the process (a) SR when the first timer ends, then (b) click continue from the main screen when the second ends. The 3ds can have a fluctuating/long boot time, and this should eliminate that variable. That said if you prefer to use the standard method as you have been, it works too.

When I enter the Seed 26030754 in Seed to Time, scores of options appear when I click "Generate". Are any Date / Time / Delay options superior to others? I am currently using:
Date 2022 / 01 / 01, Time 03 / 22 / 15, Delay 1854.

Doesn't matter, pick whichever date you like the best.

How exact does my timing need to be (closing the Current Time page, starting the game) when I am using Eon Timer? 1 Second? 0.1 Seconds?
I rapidly press A and Start so that I can make it to the Load screen before the Eon Timer finishes; does pressing A and Start before the File Load screen appears do anything regarding the frame?

The only input that matters (technically) is the final one to start the game on the continue screen. Gen 4 requires accuracy to 1/60th of a second, so you'll need to act as close as you can to the timer to get your seed. Consistency is the real key tho. Any button presses you do in the meantime to get thru the load screen don't matter, so feel free to spam A to get to the final screen when you have to press A.

 

[Miki40]

Is there a way to rng the lottery in pokemon platinum?

 

[Noah3475]

While going back to the home menu is sufficient, I'd recommend modifying the procedure slightly. Rather than booting the game at the end of the first timer, I'd suggest syncing your clock and EonTimer start times (like normal) then immediately boot the game while the first time is counting down.

Thank you so much for your reply, shiny finder! I adopted the changes to my process that you suggested.
I changed the spread I am aiming for to a Chimchar with a Jolly nature. After a couple tries at this, I got a Jolly Chimchar, but almost all of its IVs were off target. Is there anything I can learn from this regarding how close I am to my target seed or other factors? Or was obtaining the right nature just a coincidence?

 

[Uberbiscit]

Thank you so much for your reply, shiny finder! I adopted the changes to my process that you suggested.
I changed the spread I am aiming for to a Chimchar with a Jolly nature. After a couple tries at this, I got a Jolly Chimchar, but almost all of its IVs were off target. Is there anything I can learn from this regarding how close I am to my target seed or other factors? Or was obtaining the right nature just a coincidence?

If the IVs are different, then you are on a different seed and hit a different delay.

Check the nearby delays and look at their first frame. In your case, if you're aiming for a delay of 1854, check 1856, 1852 etc. Copy the corresponding seed from those delays and check their first frames.

The odd/even delays are not consistent in Diamond so I would also check the odd frames too.

 

[shiny finder]

Is there a way to rng the lottery in pokemon platinum?

Never tried it but you might find this comment helpful

Thank you so much for your reply, shiny finder! I adopted the changes to my process that you suggested.
I changed the spread I am aiming for to a Chimchar with a Jolly nature. After a couple tries at this, I got a Jolly Chimchar, but almost all of its IVs were off target. Is there anything I can learn from this regarding how close I am to my target seed or other factors? Or was obtaining the right nature just a coincidence?

Np!

To add on to what uberbiscit said, you'll have to search around nearby frames for your seed and early frames for other seeds to find what you actually hit. It's possible you hit the right seed but wrong frame, wrong seed but right frame, or wrong seed and wrong frame....and you'll have to check all of em. This post has a guide to this extent but if you know the IVs/nature/etc you got, can re-search for those parameters in the time finder (RNG reporter) or searcher tab (pokefinder) to find the seed and frame you actually hit. If you want to know the delay, you'll have to generate the times for that seed and find the one corresponding to when you entered the game. It's rather tedious I'm afraid but doable.

The right nature was likely just coincidence.

Sorry for the late reply, been gone for a couple weeks.

 

[gabraltar]

does anyone know anything about the rng in BW2's join avenue lottery? i.e what rng it uses and when it decides what prize you get?

 

[sumwun]

Do GSC, RS, and all core series games after gen 3 use their clocks to seed their RNGs? Where does FRLG get its seeds from? Emerald is the one where the random number depends on the number of frames after starting/soft resetting the game and nothing else, right?

 

[shiny finder]

Do GSC, RS, and all core series games after gen 3 use their clocks to seed their RNGs? Where does FRLG get its seeds from? Emerald is the one where the random number depends on the number of frames after starting/soft resetting the game and nothing else, right?

A clock/timer is involved in some way, yes, tho the emphasis on it changes as you go thru the gens. There's a bit too much to cover adequately (and I couldn't even if I wanted to try), so I'd recommend perusing stuff like this to see what goes into RNGing each one. To answer your questions tho, FRLG seed creation is mentioned in this post (see hide tag; spoiler: it's a really fast timer). Emerald is unique in that the initial seed is 0 every time, yeah.

 

[lats]

Do GSC, RS, and all core series games after gen 3 use their clocks to seed their RNGs? Where does FRLG get its seeds from? Emerald is the one where the random number depends on the number of frames after starting/soft resetting the game and nothing else, right?

worth noting that it is possible to change the initial seed of Emerald (and dead battery R/S by extension) legitimately with the contest hall painting method discovered in recent years